Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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And yes, it bothers me so much the angels of HH not using firearms, knowing the plothole where devils in HB use firearms. OK, so in HB - it exists angels who use firearms, and in HH, no one does it? Or will firearms be introduced in HH season 2?
If CHADam and the Exorcists were allowed to use guns, they'd win by default – not even Lucifag himself coming down to save Charlie would help. Restricting them to melee weapons only was probably a conscious nerf (still doesn't make sense story-wise, but oh well).
Also, more CHADam art:

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If CHADam and the Exorcists were allowed to use guns, they'd win by default – not even Lucifag himself coming down to save Charlie would help. Restricting them to melee weapons only was probably a conscious nerf (still doesn't make sense story-wise, but oh well).
Also, more CHADam art:

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Pretty much.
"You're on my hous-" BLAM Shotgun blast to the face, who's next to die- I mean, seek redemption?

And I'm sure Alastor would have ran away like a bitch, carrying Niffty in his arms, only to be shredded by Lute with a machine gun or a sniper rifle.

Maybe this will be a plot point, where the angels will """learn""" to use guns because Adam was "incompetent", instead of blaming Sera - since, you know, she's the fucking ruler of Heaven apparently? Or they can't because in the next encounters they will become too strong. Who knows...
 
It's too bad. I liked the Stolas who transformed into an actual eldritch horror to save Blitz in I.M.P. But no, we have this fuckboi instead.

It would have seriously helped to have read some Dante, some C.S. Lewis, actually read the Ars Goetia and some Satanic shit, hey, maybe even some actual Bible.
Most satanist shit is "fuck God look how edgy I am"
 
Maybe this will be a plot point, where the angels will """learn""" to use guns because Adam was "incompetent", instead of blaming Sera - since, you know, she's the fucking ruler of Heaven apparently? Or they can't because in the next encounters they will become too strong. Who knows...
Adam already exists in a weird fluctuating state between "incompetent" and "getting-shit-done mode".
>lets his Exorcists leave countless weapons just laying around in Hell
>but then immediately launches an investigation and moves the Extermination up six months when one of his girls gets killed
>accidentally confesses to the Exterminations in a public trial
>but then immediately moves to silence any Hell witnesses (i.e. Charlie and the Hazbins)
>dominates most of the fights he's in, only letting Alastor flail around for a little bit just for funsies
>his last retard moment is trying to take Lucifer head-on (though you could argue that he is rightfully outraged by the Duck-Fucker making light of all the ways he's fucked Adam's life up, and therefore cannot think straight)


Sera, in comparison, does NOT have any flashes of competence whatsoever:
>has a magic orb that lets her straight up spy on all of Hell at all times
>claims that the Exterminations are done to prevent uprisings, but does NOTHING to check if Lucifuck and co. are actually planning one
>runs an autistic campaign to keep the Exterminations secret, even from her ostensible superiors in the Archangel Council, because ??????
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from blabbing during the trial
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from bumrushing the Hotel
>does NOTHING to assist or save Adam when Lucifag and SHITffty are about to kill him
>will evidently do NOTHING to avenge Adam in Season 2, leaving the responsibility to Punished Lute
 
Adam already exists in a weird fluctuating state between "incompetent" and "getting-shit-done mode".
>lets his Exorcists leave countless weapons just laying around in Hell
>but then immediately launches an investigation and moves the Extermination up six months when one of his girls gets killed
>accidentally confesses to the Exterminations in a public trial
>but then immediately moves to silence any Hell witnesses (i.e. Charlie and the Hazbins)
>dominates most of the fights he's in, only letting Alastor flail around for a little bit just for funsies
>his last retard moment is trying to take Lucifer head-on (though you could argue that he is rightfully outraged by the Duck-Fucker making light of all the ways he's fucked Adam's life up, and therefore cannot think straight)


Sera, in comparison, does NOT have any flashes of competence whatsoever:
>has a magic orb that lets her straight up spy on all of Hell at all times
>claims that the Exterminations are done to prevent uprisings, but does NOTHING to check if Lucifuck and co. are actually planning one
>runs an autistic campaign to keep the Exterminations secret, even from her ostensible superiors in the Archangel Council, because ??????
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from blabbing during the trial
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from bumrushing the Hotel
>does NOTHING to assist or save Adam when Lucifag and SHITffty are about to kill him
>will evidently do NOTHING to avenge Adam in Season 2, leaving the responsibility to Punished Lute
And yet Viv claims Hazbin is "female-focused"; LOL. LMAO even
 
Adam already exists in a weird fluctuating state between "incompetent" and "getting-shit-done mode".
>lets his Exorcists leave countless weapons just laying around in Hell
>but then immediately launches an investigation and moves the Extermination up six months when one of his girls gets killed
>accidentally confesses to the Exterminations in a public trial
>but then immediately moves to silence any Hell witnesses (i.e. Charlie and the Hazbins)
>dominates most of the fights he's in, only letting Alastor flail around for a little bit just for funsies
>his last retard moment is trying to take Lucifer head-on (though you could argue that he is rightfully outraged by the Duck-Fucker making light of all the ways he's fucked Adam's life up, and therefore cannot think straight)


Sera, in comparison, does NOT have any flashes of competence whatsoever:
>has a magic orb that lets her straight up spy on all of Hell at all times
>claims that the Exterminations are done to prevent uprisings, but does NOTHING to check if Lucifuck and co. are actually planning one
>runs an autistic campaign to keep the Exterminations secret, even from her ostensible superiors in the Archangel Council, because ??????
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from blabbing during the trial
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from bumrushing the Hotel
>does NOTHING to assist or save Adam when Lucifag and SHITffty are about to kill him
>will evidently do NOTHING to avenge Adam in Season 2, leaving the responsibility to Punished Lute
LMAO, talk about incompetent - when will we see God or Jesus showing up to fix shit up? I know I said this 5 times already in the thread. But it is the men who get shit done. At this point only God appearing would fix shit up in Heaven, ousting Sera as a failure.

And you are right, Lucicunt is to blame as Adam and all he suffered through in life. You may claim "but he's a jerk, an asshole!" Yeah, well - 7000+ years of life or whatever will probably do that to him.
 
era, in comparison, does NOT have any flashes of competence whatsoever:
>has a magic orb that lets her straight up spy on all of Hell at all times
>claims that the Exterminations are done to prevent uprisings, but does NOTHING to check if Lucifuck and co. are actually planning one
>runs an autistic campaign to keep the Exterminations secret, even from her ostensible superiors in the Archangel Council, because ??????
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from blabbing during the trial
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from bumrushing the Hotel
>does NOTHING to assist or save Adam when Lucifag and SHITffty are about to kill him
>will evidently do NOTHING to avenge Adam in Season 2, leaving the responsibility to Punished Lute
Yeah Sera is possibly the most idiotic character in Hazbin like wouldn't causing these exterminations lead to an uprising because people are pissed off at you, and that is exactly what ended up happening in the show, and not to mention she can directly call Lucifer on the phone since somehow despite believing Lucifer and forces are starting an uprising, Lucifer still has phone connections to Heaven.
 
Adam already exists in a weird fluctuating state between "incompetent" and "getting-shit-done mode".
>lets his Exorcists leave countless weapons just laying around in Hell
>but then immediately launches an investigation and moves the Extermination up six months when one of his girls gets killed
>accidentally confesses to the Exterminations in a public trial
>but then immediately moves to silence any Hell witnesses (i.e. Charlie and the Hazbins)
>dominates most of the fights he's in, only letting Alastor flail around for a little bit just for funsies
>his last retard moment is trying to take Lucifer head-on (though you could argue that he is rightfully outraged by the Duck-Fucker making light of all the ways he's fucked Adam's life up, and therefore cannot think straight)


Sera, in comparison, does NOT have any flashes of competence whatsoever:
>has a magic orb that lets her straight up spy on all of Hell at all times
>claims that the Exterminations are done to prevent uprisings, but does NOTHING to check if Lucifuck and co. are actually planning one
>runs an autistic campaign to keep the Exterminations secret, even from her ostensible superiors in the Archangel Council, because ??????
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from blabbing during the trial
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from bumrushing the Hotel
>does NOTHING to assist or save Adam when Lucifag and SHITffty are about to kill him
>will evidently do NOTHING to avenge Adam in Season 2, leaving the responsibility to Punished Lute
That last point on Adam’s section is still bananas to me. Like, say you make the devil actually misguided. He’s still the literal root of everything that has ever gone wrong for mankind because his plan backfired stupendously. But, no, we can’t even call him that thanks to his speech. He’s bragging about the Story of Adam and Eve. Eve, Adam’s wife, who was tricked into eating the Apple by this asshole. Like if anything that entire scene would have been duck fucker’s villain reveal or his villain speech about how he’s ruined a man’s home, and then, likely, did something unspeakable to his wife, ruined all creation essentially, and is living his best life, happy about it.

(Props to Viv if in season 2, it’s revealed that his sad boy persona is just an act, and his main method of fooling people. After all, can this short sad guy really be unconscionably evil? Even bigger props if he’s using Charlie as a Manchurian candidate to send to earth with her shitty redemption ideas, specifically because they will not work and even end up damning more people than they’d otherwise save. It won’t happen because Viv‘s entire world view hinges on a relativistic morality, so Good and Evil cannot actually exist, meaning Hell and Heaven have no purpose and cannot exist in that framework, but still.)

Sera is what happens when you want God, but and this is me speculating here, don’t want to actually blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. Besides, if she’s the leader and Heaven is bad because they sometimes have standards about how you should act, you can’t have her say something understandable like: “We’re doing exterminations as a precaution because we trusted that asshole we threw into Hell once, and look were it got us, humans, and Adam especially. He has made nothing better and has only caused issues for creation as a whole. Plus, we don’t decide who goes to Hell apparently, so there’s a 3rd party making that choice, meaning that sinners are there for a reason. I say let’s put them out of their misery as a mercy. No Emily, you’re wide-eyed idealism is stupid and akin to a human child or a Marxist. Please sit down and shut the fuck up before your Mother/Sister has to smack a stupid bitch.”
 
(Props to Viv if in season 2, it’s revealed that his sad boy persona is just an act, and his main method of fooling people. After all, can this short sad guy really be unconscionably evil? Even bigger props if he’s using Charlie as a Manchurian candidate to send to earth with her shitty redemption ideas, specifically because they will not work and even end up damning more people than they’d otherwise save. It won’t happen because Viv‘s entire world view hinges on a relativistic morality, so Good and Evil cannot actually exist, meaning Hell and Heaven have no purpose and cannot exist in that framework, but still.)
I've been speculating this as well - that Lucifer's acting is just an act, and probably something to make people go "awww fuck we didn't see this shit coming." But that's too optimistic because he's "relatable" to a retarded audience or whatever - thinking his depression or something is funny. Would certainly make panties on a twist - and I've been wondering if Craplastor would have to end up playing as the good guy then, despite his all "edgy XDDDD" persona. Conflicting, I know. But would give depth to the series. As for the rest, you are right - Lucifer fucked up by doing shit with Eve (who people still see as being the Kangaroo- I mean, Root of all Evil? Maybe that's just a retarded non-story) and Adam became bitter, having to till the soil, on top of having his first wife stolen. He had many reasons to pummel the fuck-a-duck man into dust, just as he almost did the radio crapper.

I think the show would benefit greatly of the Catholic ideal of a purgatory, perhaps as the "neutral party" between Heaven and Hell. It's the idea of Sheol/Hades in Scripture that it is the grave, but not necessarily the Hell as we know, meaning where people go to rest, or could be just a place like a graveyard. I don't know, it would be pretty interesting, since the "nothing's ever good or evil" would fit quite well here.
 
Maybe this will be a plot point, where the angels will """learn""" to use guns because Adam was "incompetent"
Well Adam did have the kamikaze blast that immediately obliterated Sir Pentious and his ship. Never used it again for some reason.
Sera, in comparison, does NOT have any flashes of competence whatsoever:
>has a magic orb that lets her straight up spy on all of Hell at all times
>claims that the Exterminations are done to prevent uprisings, but does NOTHING to check if Lucifuck and co. are actually planning one
>runs an autistic campaign to keep the Exterminations secret, even from her ostensible superiors in the Archangel Council, because ??????
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from blabbing during the trial
>does NOTHING to stop Adam from bumrushing the Hotel
>does NOTHING to assist or save Adam when Lucifag and SHITffty are about to kill him
>will evidently do NOTHING to avenge Adam in Season 2, leaving the responsibility to Punished Lute
Yeah Sera is possibly the most idiotic character in Hazbin like wouldn't causing these exterminations lead to an uprising because people are pissed off at you, and that is exactly what ended up happening in the show, and not to mention she can directly call Lucifer on the phone since somehow despite believing Lucifer and forces are starting an uprising, Lucifer still has phone connections to Heaven.
I guess Sera was the true unredeemable villain this entire time.
He’s bragging about the Story of Adam and Eve. Eve, Adam’s wife, who was tricked into eating the Apple by this asshole. Like if anything that entire scene would have been duck fucker’s villain reveal or his villain speech about how he’s ruined a man’s home, and then, likely, did something unspeakable to his wife, ruined all creation essentially, and is living his best life, happy about it.
Didn't Lucifer say he fucked Eve as well in that little speech? Was that...consensual even?

If it's revealed that the Lilith we see in Heaven is Eve in disguise and all those other rumors come true, can't say I blame Eve. Lucifer really did fuck up her life.
 
Unless they have the stones to roll the dice on making Sad boy a rapist, after the current Stolas fiasco in their sister show and the minefield to come, it was totally consensual, because Adam was just that bad because he was total dude-bro in the year… The Dawn of Fucking Time, and third wave feminist ideals are universal and not at all an outgrowth of Western philosophy and decadence, so Eve would have totally bought into Sex positivity and seen the red flags of Adam‘s ‘toxic masculinity’.

Until shit went down like a lead balloon, Duck-boy left her for the total bitch he simps for, and suddenly that Toxic Masculinity is looking really nice after you throw away your life and paradise for a piece of fruit and a thrust, and your life now depends on it. The more I think about it, the more this makes Eve look bad, and Adam look good, so there’s a 50/50 shot it’s correct because that’s how incompetent the writers are.

Real talk though, I thought the guy was just referring to the Fruit of Knowledge during that speech and the sex joke was just because it’s Viv’s show, we all know the ‘If Viv Wrote X’ Meme.

For the uneducated, i.e. me, what are the rumors if you can say? This is the first time I heard that Lilith might be Eve.
 
For the uneducated, i.e. me, what are the rumors if you can say? This is the first time I heard that Lilith might be Eve.
In a nutshell, there was a leak a while back that said Lilith is actually Eve, and the real Lilith is masquerading as Rosie. Reasons why are unknown but Eve most likely did it out of some revenge plot. Lilith is also the one Alastor made a deal with (which basically everyone called) and his part of the bargain is watching over Charlie in Lilith's absence.
 
In a nutshell, there was a leak a while back that said Lilith is actually Eve, and the real Lilith is masquerading as Rosie. Reasons why are unknown but Eve most likely did it out of some revenge plot. Lilith is also the one Alastor made a deal with (which basically everyone called) and his part of the bargain is watching over Charlie in Lilith's absence.
Wow most of that sounds incredibly stupid. So, what, Eve’s plan was to get her husband killed by the guy that screwed them over? Lilith is posing as a woman and outsourcing looking after her daughter instead of just, looking after her daughter? Like, the lilith deal thing makes sorta sense for how powerful he is so fast, but still. Any validity to the leaks or did they come out with the leaked storyboards for season 1?
 
Wow most of that sounds incredibly stupid. So, what, Eve’s plan was to get her husband killed by the guy that screwed them over? Lilith is posing as a woman and outsourcing looking after her daughter instead of just, looking after her daughter? Like, the lilith deal thing makes sorta sense for how powerful he is so fast, but still. Any validity to the leaks or did they come out with the leaked storyboards for season 1?
I personally can't vouch for their validity, but the Tumblr blog I first saw them on claims they got them from an extremely reliable source.
 
Wow most of that sounds incredibly stupid. So, what, Eve’s plan was to get her husband killed by the guy that screwed them over? Lilith is posing as a woman and outsourcing looking after her daughter instead of just, looking after her daughter? Like, the lilith deal thing makes sorta sense for how powerful he is so fast, but still. Any validity to the leaks or did they come out with the leaked storyboards for season 1?
From what I recall, the leaks say Eve is running an incredibly autistic long-con scheme to destroy Heaven (and maybe Hell too) out of revenge for having all the blame pinned on her for eating the Fruit of Knowledge... or some stupid shit like that. you'd think that she would blame Lucifuck first and foremost and do everything in her power to get him killed
Meanwhile, Lilith is masquerading as Rosie because... I have no fucking idea why, actually. It seems to be a trend that all the women in this show run overly complicated schemes for no justifiable reason whatsoever.
 
From what I recall, the leaks say Eve is running an incredibly autistic long-con scheme to destroy Heaven (and maybe Hell too) out of revenge for having all the blame pinned on her for eating the Fruit of Knowledge... or some stupid shit like that. you'd think that she would blame Lucifuck first and foremost and do everything in her power to get him killed
Meanwhile, Lilith is masquerading as Rosie because... I have no fucking idea why, actually. It seems to be a trend that all the women in this show run overly complicated schemes for no justifiable reason whatsoever.
And that this will all come down in seasons with the true big bad of this show: THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL
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Some basic bitch with the nickname "Roo"...truly, the pinnacle of all that is evil.
 
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