US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[CaddestSlown]

Please remember to keep all your limbs inside the thread while it is in motion

I didn't, Johnny. And look what happened to me! OooOoOoOoooOo...! A cauuuutionary taaaaale!

Trump calling Shinzo handsome awoke my fujoshi heart

A spooky curse upon ye' three. A curse, a curse I say!

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

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Not quite fanart, but it fits.

Shinzo is practicing his drive in Heaven while he waits for his Nakama

 

[TwoToes]

trump winning and democrats making freak out posts the night of the election about how this could have been avoided if people hadn't voted third party sounds hilarious

i approve of your gay stoner act of rebellion

They did it in mass in 2016, I'm ready for it again.

How about you quit acting like a faggot and vote for Trump? Honestly I'm content if you pull a vote from Kamala, but if you're that disillusioned maybe you should reconsider what they've told you about The Donald?

Yall were all just agreeing how popular vote means nothing and electoral college is all that matters in the election. Why add +1 to trumps popular vote if it does nothing for the electoral college?

 

[whoishomermynameis]

biggest wnba star ever (straight white catholic woman) vs. angry black lesbians

https://x.com/JayFivekiller/status/1846034136617640365

 

[Unzen]

RFK and Jill Stein

Neither of these people are on the ballot in all 50 states. Genuine question but in what manner are you torn in? You're obviously not voting under consideration that one of them actually wins and when it comes to voting according to values you should have a pretty clear picture what each stands for so why the whole torn facade?

 

[pylosurf]

Anyone ever figure out what was up with that weird town hall last night? I'm seeing clips of it trending on Twitter.

On the one hand, the venue was hot as fuck and people were fainting, on the other hand Kristi Noem was the moderator and she was fucking things up. She kept putting words in Trump's mouth (to the point he had to keep correcting her), telling jokes, etc. She was grandstanding on her own behalf, and my theory is he decided to bail on the original plan in order to keep things from going further off the rails.

 

[CaddestSlown]

They did it in mass in 2016, I'm ready for it again.

I WAS thinking of voting for Jill Stein for the meme of it all. If done it in large enough numbers, the chimp out could be hilarious across the country if you live in a really really really Democrat filled state.

Yall were all just agreeing how popular vote means nothing and electoral college is all that matters in the election. Why add +1 to trumps popular vote if it does nothing for the electoral college?

Something about pride and symbolism I guess. I don't think MA would ever bat for Orange Man in any reality. It sounds much funnier to vote Jill Stein.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

I understand wanting to vote, "fuck the two party system" but with Trump you can vote "fuck the two party system" and still have a chance of winning.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I can see why neither campaigns are doing anything in Arizona. It's a bloodbath

 

[CoolFool]

On the one hand, the venue was hot as fuck and people were fainting, on the other hand Kristi Noem was the moderator and she was fucking things up. She kept putting words in Trump's mouth (to the point he had to keep correcting her), telling jokes, etc. She was grandstanding on her own behalf, and my theory is he decided to bail on the original plan in order to keep things from going further off the rails.

Over on Twatter, they're showing clips and making it seem like Trump was having several senile moments. Doesn't look good but at this point in the election I also don't think anyone voting for him cares whether it was a senile moment or not.

 

[TwoToes]

values you should have a pretty clear picture what each stands for so why the whole torn facade?

The torn part was joke bait. Rfk is just a straight up thrown away vote.
Stein has never been more popular than right now, which is still very not popular, but hard lefties don't even want kamala because Israel.
I only wanna vote Jill in because would be wild if she somehow ends up with 5% the green party will have some federal funding thru the FEC.

 

[Fatpacks]

She's making one last bid to secure the zoomer vote

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Forget the polls: Cultural signs point toward a Harris victory​

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Between now and Election Day, the voters will be inundated with polls attempting to forecast the election outcome. That answer intrigues all of us.

As Alexander Hamilton once said, “Every vital question of state will be merged in the question, ‘Who will be the next president?’”

But relying on the polls as accurate barometers of public opinion has been questioned ever since Donald Trump emerged as a political force. In 2016, the polls wildly missed the mark, as the vast preponderance of them gave Hillary Clinton a strong lead.

Four years later, Joe Biden’s polling advantages overstated his actual results. After the 2020 election, there was talk of a “hidden Trump vote.” And in 2022, the polls missed again, pointing to a Republican red wave that failed to materialize.

Sometimes a better predictor of our political futures is found in pop culture.

In 1940, Woody Guthrie composed a blistering rebuttal to Irving Berlin’s classic tune, “God Bless America.” In “This Land Is Your Land,” Guthrie sang of the dispossessed and the need for equity, powerful reminders of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s continued appeal. That year, Roosevelt won a comfortable victory.

In 1984, Ronald Reagan coasted to a landslide victory. While the polls projected a comfortable Reagan win, the signs were already present in the zeitgeist. Two of the most popular television shows that year were “Family Ties” and “The Cosby Show.” Family Ties saw Michael J. Fox play Alex P. Keaton who, as the ardent Reaganite, castigated government and praised free markets, to the annoyance of his 1960s-style Democratic parents.

The Cosby Show depicted Bill Cosby as the amiable Dr. Cliff Huxtable, was married to a successful African American woman and whose children respected their parents. The show echoed Reagan’s values mantra of family, work, neighborhood, peace and freedom — a point echoed by Cosby himself: “This is an American family — and if you want to live like they do, and you’re willing to work, the opportunity is there.”

Today, the cultural signs point in Vice President Kamala Harris’s direction. Over the summer, Charli XCX tweeted, “kamala IS brat.” That message played on the title of her album “Brat” which became a top seller.

Next, the most popular and powerful musician of this era, Taylor Swift, quickly followed up with a Harris endorsement. Swift’s support packed a punch: More than 400,000 people registered to vote after her announcement. An angry Trump immediately posted, “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!”

Another powerful voice, Bruce Springsteen, has also recently announced his support for Harris.


Throughout his career, Springsteen has consistently reflected the popular mood. When he emerged as a superstar in 1984 with his hit album, “Born in the USA,” one fan said he liked Springsteen’s message about “faith and traditional values.”

The flag-waving at Springsteen’s concerts whenever he sang “Born in the USA” led Ronald Reagan to praise the singer’s message. In 1984, The Christian Science Monitor noted that Reagan’s allusion to Springsteen marked the first time a popular singer had been recruited by a president of the U.S. as a character reference.

Perhaps there is no better sign of an important trend in pop culture than the success of the Apple+TV series “Ted Lasso.” Lasso became the embodiment of kindness and decency, qualities opposite those associated with Trump.

Jason Sudeikis, the actor who played Lasso, saw the series’ success as a call for change: “I hated how people weren’t listening to one another. Things became very binary, and I don’t think that’s the way the world works.”

His character echoed a similar sentiment saying he wanted to “be the change you want to see in the world.”

Kamala Harris’s pledge to “turn the page” and point “a new way forward” echoes the Lasso theme. Like Ted Lasso, Kamala Harris wants to end the anger and bring not just decorum, but joy, to our politics.

Sudeikis apparently agrees: This weekend, he was spotted at a WNBA playoff game wearing a shirt with the slogan, “Harris & Walz & Joy & Liberty.” This is a message that resonates.

Meanwhile, Trump is summoning the cultural icons of yesteryear, reveling in the endorsements of Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan and Kanye West. Trump has also promoted World Wrestling Entertainment, whose audience consists of mostly young adult males but has little crossover appeal.

Can Harris pass the Ted Lasso test? While Lasso brought a different aura to the British sport of soccer with his kindness and empathy, that would have vanished, had his team not been successful.

The question for voters is similar: They like Harris’s message, but is she up to the job of being president?

Polls indicate that Harris crossed that threshold beginning with her powerful debate performance. By a nearly 2-to-1 ratio, debate watchers scored Harris the winner.

The Harris-Trump debate posed a test that each successful presidential candidate must meet: Can the viewer envision this person as a potential president of the United States?

A recent CNN poll found majorities of likely voters say Harris’s temperament, background, life experience, ability to understand their problems, skills as a leader and vision for the country align with their image of a future president. Fewer than half ascribe those same qualities to Trump.

Over the next few weeks, voters will see Kamala Harris in different settings, each giving her the ability to introduce herself to an electorate that is exhausted by Trump. And every day more polls will claim to predict a winner.

But forget the polls. The cultural signs point toward Harris.

John Kenneth White (johnkennethwhite.com) is a professor emeritus at The Catholic University of America. His latest book is titled “Grand Old Unraveling: The Republican Party, Donald Trump, and the Rise of Authoritarianism.”

Translation: "Forget the polls: we already have enough fake/harvested ballots to ensure a Harris victory"

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Translation: "Forget the polls: we already have enough fake/harvested ballots to ensure a Harris victory"

It's a cope piece. Absolutely bottom of the barrel slop cope that's published every day.

Putting a lot of words down that says nothing. Moving on.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

loans with no strings attached and no need to be repaid essentially become free money that gets spent on anything but business operations most of the time - leading to businesses that never really get off the ground due to lack of capital, sustainable sales, and profits to ensure a going concern.

Just think of all the record labels that are gonna open.

 

[Kankichi Ryotsu]

@Fatpacks
Goddamn, couldn't she have worded it a little differently? That's LITERALLY what she was doing herself as prosecutor lol. What, does her team think nobody is going to draw the connection? What an obvious self own

 

[autistic dog]

You ain't wrong. But I don't wanna vote trump or Kamala and rfk took a knee to kiss daddy trumps feet so I'm gonna throw my worthless blue state vote at Jill.

The Dems are starting to post attack ads about her in swing states and AOC publicly calling her out as a bad party candidate. Seems like theyre scared of her taking away votes from Kamala.

RFK didn't "take a knee" he joined Donald Trumps team and endorsed him. He put out an entire speech explaining his reasoning. He has the ability to actually be in a cabinet position actually making changes to the system instead of a 3rd party protest vote.

Naturally being a logical free thinking human and not a psyop you decide to take this information and move to an entirely different 3rd party candidates with entirely different views.

Sounds good my man!

 

[pwnest injun]

I understand wanting to vote, "fuck the two party system" but with Trump you can vote "fuck the two party system" and still have a chance of winning.

The thoughts, feelings or votes of people on this website will not change anything. If dude gets his jollies voting for Jill, that's what actually matters.

To me, Trump winning is really really funny and I'll vote for him, even if my state is pretty much guaranteed for Harris. YMMV

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

That was a nice interview at Bloomberg.

Very good.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

Trump: Governor Newskum
Faggot British interviewer: It's Newsom
Trump: I call him NewScum


God I love this man

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I can see why neither campaigns are doing anything in Arizona. It's a bloodbath

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It would be nice of Trump did a rally with Kari Lake, though ...

But unfortunately Kari Lake is damaged goods I guess, and Trump doesn't want to potentially spoil his chances there by showing up for her.