2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

World Famous Quasi Payer said:
Iran is already an enemy of or has a hostile relationship with nearly every other power in the region.
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Fitting that a revolutionary Islamic country would be seen as the black sheep and be hated by almost everyone because they're nothing more than a thorn shoved into them. Things definitely would've been smoother for Persia had it not fallen to the Revolution and become a try-hard anti-Western country.
 
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porkypork99 said:
I dont remember anyone accusing the west of genocide, I remember medias and UN accusing Isis or committing warcrimes by hiding inside hospitals and using civilian as human shields tho.
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That's mostly because the people doing the fighting and the dying were all brown. Outside of some special forces types, 99% of the soldiers were some shade of brown middle eastern man.

Danann said:
Fitting that a revolutionary Islamic country would be seen as the black sheep and be hated by almost everyone because they're nothing more than a thorn shoved into them. Things definitely would've been smoother for Persia had it not fallen to the Revolution and become a try-hard anti-Western country.
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The majority of the countries around Iran are anti-west try hards. Iran has always been the "black sheep" because its the center of Shia islam, whereas the other nations (outside of Iraq) are all majority Sunni. Revolution or not, Iran would always get the side eye from the rest of the middle east. The arab fears the Persian.
 
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Lengthy Sex Derail said:
The moment Israel blows up Iran's nuclear/oil facilities, Iran have said that they're going to blow up the oil facilities of every single other nation in the Middle East, and they have the ability to do so. This would fuck the global economy and the US over so incredibly hard that there's no way the US wanted to see things head in that direction - it'd instantly mean the loss of the election and a total discrediting of government policy as gas prices rose to a level that made the majority of the US population economically unviable.
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Please, no. Corporation can only get so wet.
 
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The IDF released footage from the interrogation of the Hezbollah terrorist captured earlier this week. In it, he says that all of his commanders fled because they were afraid of the IDF:
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This with a translation:

 
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Hezbollah weapons cache in a "civilian" home:

Alexandroni Brigade reservists with over 300 days of service this year:
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World Famous Quasi Payer said:
That's mostly because the people doing the fighting and the dying were all brown. Outside of some special forces types, 99% of the soldiers were some shade of brown middle eastern man.


The majority of the countries around Iran are anti-west try hards. Iran has always been the "black sheep" because its the center of Shia islam, whereas the other nations (outside of Iraq) are all majority Sunni. Revolution or not, Iran would always get the side eye from the rest of the middle east. The arab fears the Persian.
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thats one big lie,while on the ground yes,it was mostly muslims fighting muslims, the bombardment was mostly coming from us uk france canada and australia. the troops coordination was also all from the west.
 
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thats one big lie,while on the ground yes,it was mostly muslims fighting muslims, the bombardment was mostly coming from us uk france canada and australia. the troops coordination was also all from the west.
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The key aspect that causes the difference in the response, is when westerners saw the war against ISIL on the news, they saw *brown native* arabs fighting other *brown native* arabs. Whereas when they see the war in gaza, they see *non-native white* jews fighting *brown native* arabs. That is the difference, the fact that airstrikes and a good bit of the command came from *non-native white* europeans doesn't change that.

And to side step any responses about who is and isn't native. Who is and isn't brown or white. I need you to think like the average westerner who has limited knowledge or care about the topic. The Palestinians are brown looking to westerners, the Israelis are white looking, or at least whiter looking. The Palestinians say they were displaced by Israel, Israel happly admits that it has grown in response to the wars. It doesn't matter that you can pull out a history book and say "See! Jews were there long before the arab palestinians!" Remember you are thinking like an average westerner.
 
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World Famous Quasi Payer said:
The key aspect that causes the difference in the response, is when westerners saw the war against ISIL on the news, they saw *brown native* arabs fighting other *brown native* arabs. Whereas when they see the war in gaza, they see *non-native white* jews fighting *brown native* arabs. That is the difference, the fact that airstrikes and a good bit of the command came from *non-native white* europeans doesn't change that.

And to side step any responses about who is and isn't native. Who is and isn't brown or white. I need you to think like the average westerner who has limited knowledge or care about the topic. The Palestinians are brown looking to westerners, the Israelis are white looking, or at least whiter looking. The Palestinians say they were displaced by Israel, Israel happly admits that it has grown in response to the wars. It doesn't matter that you can pull out a history book and say "See! Jews were there long before the arab palestinians!" Remember you are thinking like an average westerner.
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im not saying youre wrong, I just find funny seeing the double standards with all the protests in the west and political leaders from the west saying what theyre saying about the conflict while just a few years ago they were carpet bombing hospitals with no care in the world.
 
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Yet another Vatnik/Hohol-Israeli was arrested for working for Iran. My impression is that most of the Jewish kiwis stem from the FSU so I want you to know that you're not sending us your best:
*The thwarting of Iran's attempts to recruit Israelis continues: the Shin Bet and Yahbal Lahav 433 arrested a resident of Petah Tikva, who agreed to carry out an assassination in Israel for $100,000*

It was allowed to be published that as part of a combined countermeasures activity of the General Security Service and Yahbal Lahav 433 in the Israel Police, an infrastructure of Iranian intelligence agencies was exposed, which operated to recruit and activate citizens in Israel.

In this framework, Vladimir Varehovski, about 35 years old, a resident of Petah Tikva, was arrested for questioning, after he had performed various tasks for the Iranian intelligence agencies. Some of the tasks performed were documented by Vladimir, and payment was received for their performance. The contact between Vladimir and the Iranian officials took place in the English language, during which he was asked to purchase a dedicated phone.

The investigation of the suspect and his means revealed that as part of the relationship that existed between Vladimir and entities acting on behalf of Iran, Vladimir, under the guidance of the Iranian entity, and while being aware of being a hostile entity interested in harming the security of the state, carried out various tasks, including spraying graffiti, hanging banners, and gathering information about an Israeli entity and burying funds to perform additional tasks by other recruits. Later, Vladimir agreed to carry out a mission to eliminate an Israeli scientist for the sum of 100 thousand dollars. In order to carry out the mission, Vladimir was equipped with weapons.

The suspect will be brought today in the morning for a hearing at the District Court in Lod, where an extension of his detention will be requested until the end of the proceedings. The Central District Attorney's Office will file serious charges against him.

An appeal by the Iranian intelligence agencies, through social networks, is recognized as a platform for the random recruitment of Israelis to carry out various tasks. Although these missions may initially be seen as innocent, they have the potential to cause a real harm to the security of the state.

It should be noted that a significant portion of the Israeli citizens who received suspicious inquiries, did not respond to them and even alerted the relevant authorities about them.

The Commander of the Security Section of the Yablah Lahav 433 Corporal Maor Goren stated: "This is another incident in a series of serious cases being investigated by the Yablah and the Shin Bet in which Israeli citizens are operated by a foreign agent, but here another border has already been crossed, in terms of severity and boldness : The suspect has already armed himself with a gun, a cartridge and bullets, and all this after he agreed to execute the murder of a scientist for $100,000 and flee the country with the help of the foreign agent to Russia, immediately after the execution."
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Heavy airstrikes on Nabatieh:

Demolition of underground terror infrastructure in Mhaibib:


Israeli warships striking Hezbollah targets:


More weapons in "civilian" homes:

Airstrike kills two Hezbollah terrorists who fired an AT weapon at Israeli forces:


Sukkot in Lebanon:

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Gaza:
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How to turn a tank into a Sukkah:
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
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"In his investigation, he said: "They all ran away, all four (the regional commander and his deputy), from the beginning they already ran away", in relation to the Radwan Force he said: "They are of little faith, people without religion, they went in to get money and that's it, they ran away because they were afraid of the IDF. .. They planned to respond to the attack, to advance to the Galilee, but after the assassination of Hassan Nasrallah, they didn't see any of them."

Lol, the Hezzbollah true believers are either dead or not in leadership roles.

Makes sense as the group was founded 42 YEARS ago and it's now seen as a good place for a Lebanese Shia to make money and extort people.
 
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🚨EXCLUSIVE NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE PAGERS - A THREAD: Just when you thought it couldn't get crazier, Reuters released brand new details about Mossad's brilliant pager operation against Hezbollah in September. I will break down the most important parts and the exciting moments.

Let's start with the construction of the pagers themselves. The explosive component, Pentaerythritol tetranitrate (otherwise known as PETN), did the most damage. Mossad technicians found a way to insert a very thin square sheet of PETN between two battery cells and a strip of highly flammable material to act as a detonator. This entire package was placed into a plastic sleeve, which was encapsulated in a metal case roughly the size of a matchbox.

When the command was given, the flammable strip generated a spark to light the detonator and trigger the PETN to explode. The explosives took away some of the battery's power, which Hezbollah noticed when the battery would drain faster than expected. However, they never put two and two together and continued to use and issue the devices.

The complexity of this construction is essential for one primary reason: without metal components like a standard detonator or wires, the explosive element was utterly undetectable by X-ray. Israel knew that upon receiving the pagers, Hezbollah would likely check them for tampering or explosives, which is precisely what happened. Using airport-style security scanners, Hezbollah did indeed check the pagers, but thanks to Mossad's ingenuity, the explosive was not detected.

Now we get to the really interesting part, which is the lengths the Mossad went to create a cover story for their ruse. The PETN battery pack that Mossad constructed had a label on it: LI-BT783, and this was an issue because that specific battery did not exist. The Mossad started by creating a custom model for the entire pager, AR-924. They approached a renowned Taiwanese brand, Gold Apollo, to add it to their catalog.

Hsu Ching-Kuang, the chairman of Gold Apollo, was approached by a former employee and her new boss named "Tom" to inquire about adding the model. Ching-Kuang said that while he wasn't impressed by the AR-924 when he saw it, he agreed to grant a license under the brand and add photos and a description of the product to his company's website, thus unknowingly establishing the legitimacy of the Mossad's pager.

In September 2023, a website named came online with the AR-924 listed as a product. The site was tied to a Hong Kong-based company, Apollo Systems HK, of which no record exists today. In late 2023, two additional online states came online with the LI-BT783 battery listed in their product list, amongst other legitimate units.

Users in two online forums discussing batteries even made posts about the LI-BT783 and the AR-924, praising its "great performance" and ruggedness for field use. When Hezbollah searched for a new pager, their procurement manager chose the AR-924. The salesperson who brokered the deal offered a "very inexpensive proposition" and continued reducing the price until the Hezbollah manager agreed.

In the wake of the explosions, Hezbollah launched an internal probe of what went wrong. However, the senior official leading the investigation, Nabil Kaouk, was himself killed in an Israeli strike just 11 days after the pagers went off. The internal investigation is supposedly still in progress...
 
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