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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
I find it hard to believe that Kamala Harris is doing any worse than Joe Biden was on his campaign trail, seeing as how his campaign was nonexistent, but she's doing catastrophically worse than Joe did, which is astounding.

She's more coherent than Joe Biden, she can form more complete sentences than Joe Biden, she actually goes in person to rallies unlike Joe Biden, she's much more charismatic than Joe Biden and she doesn't have dementia like Joe Biden.

Is it because she was a prosecutor, because she's a woman, because she's "black" or because she's an Indian?
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It's because she's basically anti-charismatic.

You can say a lot about Ol' Biden, but one thing that's absolutely the case is that for all his issues, he was at least an elder statesman who had decades of experience and he had been veep uinder Obama, so you could at least play those angles to have something resembling a cogent argument to vote for him for some. I know people who voted for Obama back in 2008 and who were genuinely motivated politically specifically because of Biden. While they were by no means numerous, there was also people excited for him in 2020, weird as that sounds - some seeing him as Obama's third term, some hoping that now that he was a mainstay he'd finally push in a better direction. And while that's fucking dumb, given everything we know and have seen up to this point, it does at least make some level of sense.

Harris has none of that. She was a fucking unknown literally put on the ticket to feed the progressives who are now a centerpiece of the modern left. Her previous time in office was marred in scandal and failure and it's become increasingly clear, even to the die-hards on the left, that this was due to outright incompetence and not her somehow being "kept down" by the man. She says empty fucking platitudes, routinely makes optics fuck-ups that make the worst of Biden's look almost quaint by comparison, and even when all the cards are out on the table with every fucking advantage turned to her favor, she looks like a fucking idiot.

It's not a joke that anywhere she goes winds up bleeding support. That was something true when she first started as veep and it's remained true.

I genuinely think she was thrown into the fray as a sacrificial candidate at this point.
 
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a hundred years before the first colonizers and no one knows why.
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What the current line was back when I was in college was that the black plague somehow made it over at some point and wiped them all out. That was the non-"whitey did it" explanation.

Because before then it was some weird story where interacting with Columbus or the Vikings and trading with Indians that did that brought it all down.

As for why they never built up civilization, if you consider black death causing human life to be valued high enough to start social progress beyond feudalism and combine the even higher amount of people because of shit like indians being better at crop rotation then it's no wonder they never moved beyond human sacrifice when life was so cheap. They didn't even need beasts of burden because it was cheaper to "hire a mexi"

Its even an ironic thing to make canon because it just means Indian civilizations died out due to "overpopulation" although it's all just theories, and people forget that the indians really did put up a huge fucking fight for centuries.
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, then fleeing into academia
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the guy that took down Nixon also dropping the cases aganist the weather underground and retiring to raise his grandkids in Berkley and them trooning out sure is another odd coincidence to add to the plot too.
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, it does at least make some level of sense
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people assumed the joe biden of 2020 was the same one they remembered from when they last liked him, as you see from his long career in politics he held quite a lot of views and was charismatic as hell especially in pushing through shit like the crime bills of the 1990s to stop "niggers" and they assumed it was a man at that level they were voting for in 2020, the "stay in the basement" scheme worked and they really should have done that this time too because working off people's memories is a better way to win than seeing the modern day version of dem politicans. To use a kiwifarms example, when Rekieta won Lolcow of the year last year it seems like every faggot on the website was like "no Nick's based, remember his love of 40k/anime/christ" and because people naturally weren't paying attention and dropped off from looking at Nick they assumed he was the same beloved guy they saw years ago, not realizing how much he lost it. Biden worked on the exact same tactic only on purpose. everyone assumed they were getting Joe from his peak, instead of Balldo Biden.
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I genuinely think she was thrown into the fray as a sacrificial candidate at this point.
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They really had no other option, they were fucked with joe and they would have lost tons with picking someone else, from what i'm hearing about dem campaigning i wouldn't be surprised if they decided after Kamala stepped up to not give another red cent to her campaign and every political donation was to go to either the down ticket people or to the DNC itself to pay off debts and prepare for a midterm blowout. With how little she and her team have been doing it reminds me of the primaries were candidates try to go months spending as little money as possible. Or maybe the DNC has pissed off enough jews with not tampering down the pro-hamas wing that the purse strings have been cut, but this feels like the cheap campaigns the dnc ran in 2010. its insane how its 3 weeks from election and it feels like august with how little outreach is going on, its very JV team feeling.

Having said that i'd also believe this is the logical conclusion of a half century of affirmative action. Kamala was part of the first generation born into affirmative action and never having to work hard and getting places with just her race. unlike say Barack who at minimum was ivy league and had to at least work hard because he was still a man and mainlyt worked in the private sector, the second kamala walked into any HR dept and asked for a job she got one, between that and her dick sucking skills she rose through the ranks. she worked in government her entire life. she never had her ability questioned, it didn't matter how bad of a job she did because she'd be working the same place regardless.

Just by nature of being black she shot up the ranks very quickly because of how few black lawyers there were, she's always been near the very front of "black first" "black woman first" "asian woman first" "indian woman first" and in general despite her age, she's very obviously lived a life similar to your average minority woman in her 40s today, not having kids, marrying well if they can, having jobs because it helps DEI laws. She was one of the first black attorney generals, but if you notice there's tons of black prosecutors all over the place now all doing as shitty of a job as kamala is. its a plague on this nation thats just finally being recognized. Chris Rufo has all but mentioned how decades of giving minorities free passes on stuff like plagiarism is a huge cause of a competency crisis today. if we all keep lowering standards for minority groups than the average will keep dropping once they're in the workforce.
 
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The New York Times published a 5,000-word article asserting that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy because a second term Trump Department of Justice could potentially prosecute members of the Democrat Party.

Authors Emily Bazelon and Mattathias Schwartz make this argument not only after a first Trump term with zero political prosecutions by Trump appointees but after a shocking and unprecedented nationwide lawfare campaign by Democrats against Trump and other Republicans.



The Times headline is “Why Legal Experts Are Worried About a Second Trump Presidency.” The subhed added, “In a survey of 50 members of the D.C. legal establishment, many warn that Trump could follow through on his threats to prosecute his political adversaries.” The term “gaslighting” has gained popularity in recent years, a reference to the 1944 movie “Gaslight” about a husband who manipulates his wife into thinking she is insane. Even in a sea of media manipulation, there is perhaps no better example of gaslighting than this piece.

The article begins with an unsubstantiated claim that Trump seeks to engage in political prosecutions. The only quote offered in support of this claim is Trump saying people who violate federal election laws will be prosecuted and sentenced. They inaccurately characterize this as “Donald Trump could not be clearer about his plans to use the Justice Department to seek revenge against his enemies.”

The opening paragraph also references Trump supporters chanting “Lock Her Up!” of Hillary Clinton, who had gotten away with setting up a secret server to mishandle classified information. Left unsaid by the New York Times is that Trump didn’t go after Clinton during his time in office, saying it would be “divisive” to pursue political opponents. The New York Times also doesn’t mention that the Democrat National Convention featured chants of “Lock Him Up!” when Hillary Clinton spoke.

Most importantly, though, the past four years saw Democrats at the local, state, and federal levels upend historic norms associated with rule of law. Here’s just a partial list:


  • Democrat New York Attorney General Letitia James ran for office in 2018 on a Soviet-style threat of getting Trump, who she claimed had illegitimately won the 2016 election. The result was a never-before-prosecuted charge of inflated assets and an indefensible $350 million fine. After businesses began to worry that the common bookkeeping approach used by Trump officials might result in similar prosecutions for their businesses, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul reassured them this government action was “an extraordinarily unusual circumstance” — meaning it would only be used to go after Trump.
  • Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg worked with a slew of Biden-connected attorneys, including Biden’s former #3 at the DOJ, to gin up a murky 34-count indictment of Trump for non-disclosure payments, even though no actual crime was alleged and the statute of limitations for looking into the payments had expired.
  • Billionaire Democrat activist Reid Hoffman secretly bankrolled a civil suit in New York related to outlandish allegations that Donald Trump slipped into a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the 1990s and sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll, then a woman in her 50s. George Conway, who had tried and failed to get hired in the Trump administration, helped coordinate the lawfare. A New York jury awarded Carroll nearly $90 million. She and MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow giggled about using the funds to go on a shopping spree.
The Democrat lawfare was even more onerous at the national level:

  • The FBI conducted a shocking armed raid of Mar-a-Lago for an unprecedented presidential records and classified document case that has since been dismissed on account of Special Counsel Jack Smith having been illegally appointed. Prior to that dismissal, criminal selective leaks about that raid were distributed to a compliant press.
  • Smith also violated every norm and precedent with his anti-free speech prosecution of Trump, related to Trump’s concerns over 2020 election administration. Smith had the benefit of several Democrat-appointed federal judges doing everything they could to fast-track the trial, including removing normal procedures afforded the accused.
  • Democrat groups led an effort to remove Trump from the ballot, supposedly in the name of protecting democracy. The move was so radical — despite media claims otherwise — that all nine justices shot it down.
The list goes on and on:

It almost seems like 5,000 words should have been written about how much Democrats destroyed rule of law in this country in short order. Instead, Bazelon and Schwartz say that the “fundamental difference” between Trump threatening to prosecute various alleged lawbreakers and Biden’s DOJ actually prosecuting hundreds of Biden’s political opponents is “[t]here is no known evidence that Biden instigated these investigations or has tried to influence their outcome.”

Biden Meddles A Lot​

Oh for crying out loud. First off, the problem with the DOJ’s prosecutions isn’t which members of the Democrat Party ordered or influenced them. The problem is that they are political prosecutions designed to interfere with U.S. elections. While it’s true that Biden didn’t take an ad out in The New York Times that said, “Hey Garland, please prosecute my top political opponent immediately,” he came pretty close to that on the front page of the paper itself.


“As recently as late last year, Mr. Biden confided to his inner circle that he believed former President Donald J. Trump was a threat to democracy and should be prosecuted, according to two people familiar with his comments,” the New York Times announced on its front page on April 2, 2022. “And while the president has never communicated his frustrations directly to Mr. Garland, he has said privately that he wanted Mr. Garland to act less like a ponderous judge and more like a prosecutor who is willing to take decisive action over the events of Jan. 6,” the report continued in the article headlined “Garland Faces Growing Pressure as Jan. 6 Investigation Widens.”

See, Biden didn’t communicate his frustration directly! He didn’t say it in a private meeting with his attorney general or write a memo detailing his desires. He only put it on the front page of a quiet, hardly ever read Democrat Party publication called The New York Times. How would Garland ever possibly find out what Biden had two of his staffers tell The New York Times for the purpose of getting a front-page story out of it?

By comparison, King Henry II’s “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” was far more subtle.

Jonathan Lemire and Sam Stein of Politico laundered additional Biden leaks, including complaints about the slow pace of the prosecutions of his political opponent Trump, earlier this year in “White House frustration with Garland grows.”

Clearly the “fundamental difference” between Trump threatening to prosecute lawbreakers and Biden’s DOJ prosecuting all of his political opponents is not that Biden kept his views super secret.

Meddling with the DOJ is part of a pattern for Biden. In the infamous January 5, 2017, meeting where Obama, Biden, and their advisors concocted plans for how to target Trump officials, including incoming National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, it was Biden who came up with the idea of abusing the Logan Act to go after him, according to contemporaneous notes taken by discredited FBI special agent Peter Strzok, of all people. The FBI did just that in the days that followed.

And on that note, The New York Times article scandalously pretends that the FBI and DOJ are bastions of objectivity and non-partisanship, ignoring the mountains of evidence to the contrary. The Russia collusion hoax exposed for Americans just how corrupt these agencies are.

Virtually no one was held accountable for their role in that information operation. Clinton and her fellow partisans weren’t charged for making up the Russia collusion story. Heck, British “spy” Christopher Steele is still spreading misinformation about Trump this month. The media who participated in the spreading the information operation were rewarded with prizes. And the government operatives who deceptively leaked in order to keep the hoax going were given lucrative taxpayer funded payouts. FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith, who falsified a FISA warrant in order to spy on an innocent American, was given a slap on the wrist of a few months without his law license. The DOJ Inspector General found that there had been 17 major omissions and errors in the FISA warrants used to spy on Trump campaign associate Carter Page.

Permanent DC Is Threatened By Trump​

“Maybe the most harmful thing the former president has done to the rule of law is to engage in behavior so reckless that he effectively dared his successor’s Justice Department to investigate him,” Bazelon and Schwartz opine, blaming Trump for being a victim of over-the-top prosecutions and investigations. They add, “It’s easy to see what the peril of not investigating Trump’s most law-defying conduct might have been: For laws to have credibility, they must be applied to everyone.”

Again, this is written after there was almost no accountability for the law-defying conduct of the Russia collusion hoax. But how can the Times reporters write those lines, and ignore the obvious weaknesses of all the Trump prosecutions — all of which are now falling apart, incidentally — unless they’re leftists caught in an epistemological loop where they’ve never exposed themselves to a news source that discusses those weaknesses or they just assume all their readers are too ill-informed to know about those weaknesses?

Nevermind, the point of the article is to introduce a New York Times-designed survey of 50 Washington denizens who all completely agree that the man who has pledged to “drain the swamp” is a threat to the very same swamp.

“Forty-two of the 50 former officials said it was very likely or likely that a second Trump term would pose a significant threat to the norm of keeping criminal enforcement free of White House influence,” the authors claim.

Would that be the norm of coordinating legal operations against parents at the behest of special interest groups? Would it be the norm of shock-and-awe prosecutions of one set of rioters while letting decades of left-wing rioters off easy? What about the norm of not having Barack Obama and Joe Biden help plot aspects of the Russia collusion hoax? What about the norm of prosecuting your top political opponent for his speech in ways that have never even been considered before? What about Democrat prosecutors across the country going after every Republican official they can. What about the attempts to disbar all Republican attorneys to prevent effective election advocacy. What are these norms of which the Times speaks?

Swamp Doesn’t Like Guy Who Promises To Drain Swamp​

The Times says it surveyed 50 swamp denizens, half appointed by Democrats and half appointed by Republicans, and that nearly all agree that Trump is a problem. Their first example of a “conservative” Republican appointee who opposes Trump is Peter Keisler, who is described as “a founder of the conservative Federalist Society” and former Bush official.

What Bazelon and Schwartz hide from readers, however, is that Keisler is a rabid never-Trumper and board member of the Democrat-funded anti-Trump outfit set up by Democrat activists Bill Kristol and Sarah Longwell and named, however inappropriately, Society for the Rule of Law. The group is so unhinged — if oft-quoted by Democrat media — that George Conway is its cofounder, primary spokesman, and chairman of the board. It was part of a constellation of groups that were strong proponents of using the Justice Department to perpetuate Democrats’ Russia collusion hoax. They’re so conservative that their members frequently endorse Kamala Harris and they have supported every single piece of lawfare against Trump and his supporters, no matter how extreme. For example the group filed an amicus brief in support of removing Trump from the ballot, a view so extreme that even Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson couldn’t support it.

The next person quoted is Michael Luttig, another rabid anti-Trump activist, and another board member of the Democrat-funded and Democrat-launched Society for the Rule of Law. Luttig was one of the so-called masterminds of the attempt to attempt to keep tens of millions of Americans from being able to vote for the candidate of their choice. He called the Colorado ruling removing Trump from the ballot, a ruling soon to be overturned by every single justice on the Supreme Court, a “masterful judicial opinion” and “unassailable and irrefutable in every single respect.”

Bazelon and Schwartz also gaslight about the first Trump term. They assert without evidence that Trump interfered directly in the Russia collusion scam that was perpetrated against him. They admit there is no evidence that Trump influenced any of the completely impotent investigations into some of the corrupt actors who participated in that horrific and damaging lie, but they are upset that he publicly complained about their corruption.

The article also tells a fantastical tale of Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI, being an innocent victim of political prosecution. In fact, McCabe benefited from a DOJ culture that would do anything to avoid prosecuting friends such as him, even as he clearly leaked like a sieve and rampantly lied about some of his leaking. Instead of prosecution, his buddies at DOJ helped him get a massive six-figure settlement paid for by taxpayers.

They quote McCabe saying that investigations and indictments can ruin your reputation even if they don’t lead to convictions. You don’t say! Perhaps Donald Trump and his family would have something to say about the efforts to tie Trump up in legal problems, bankrupt him, distract him, ruin his reputation, and ultimately make him lose the election. McCabe, for his part, was rewarded for his role in the Russia collusion hoax and other anti-Trump efforts with a CNN contributorship, among other things.

Strategic Leaks To Subvert Constitution​

The next part of the interminable article is the section dealing with how the unelected bureaucracy might be able to thwart the constitutional authority bestowed on the president, if the president is named Trump.

The Times asked its survey respondents whether there were any “external checks” on Trump’s constitutional responsibility to oversee the Department of Justice.

“Much of what we know about the clashes within the Justice Department in Trump’s first term comes from such disclosures,” the article says, referencing the deluge of selective leaks from FBI and DOJ officials to the media as part of the Russia collusion hoax that government officials and journalists perpetrated against America.

It then quotes Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor in New York, without mentioning that he was the conduit James Comey used for his deceptive leaks to gin up the Robert Mueller probe.

When Trump was in office, the corporate media gave free rein to an entire galaxy of leakers within the bureaucracy who were trying to sabotage the agenda of the president whose agenda they were supposed to serve and advanced.

The Times falsely characterized one of those leakers — dubbed “Anonymous” — as a high-level government official, strongly suggesting that he was a cabinet official. It turned out he was a low-level official at the Department of Homeland Security.

It is understandable that the Times wouldn’t want any accountability for the army of leakers it used to spread disinformation about Trump. But it’s much harder to understand why any honest accounting of the facts would lead anyone to conclude that Trump is more prone to politicizing justice than the party in power that has spent years openly plotting to throw their political opponents in jail.
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Jade Philosophies said:
Ylvis, Andre from Midnight's Edge and Arch seem cool. Aren't there many more Norwegians like them?


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What does the fox say again?
Ethereal Eye said:
Saw that Jimmy Carter was trending on Xitter again, and it turns out to be lefties salivating over him voting for Kamala apparently.
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It's so sad... His peanuts went sour again (presumably for the last time), and he's still fucking pissed.
 
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Ethereal Eye said:
Saw that Jimmy Carter was trending on Xitter again, and it turns out to be lefties salivating over him voting for Kamala apparently.
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I read this science fiction story once by Stephen Baxter, where they develop senescence treatment, and a few survive tens of thousands of years to watch over humanity. Carter in those pictures look like the 20.000 year old living corpse in the book, it’s freaking scary.
 
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Saw that Jimmy Carter was trending on Xitter again, and it turns out to be lefties salivating over him voting for Kamala apparently.
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Seems none of the ones you found dared to use a picture from his recent birthday party:

 
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