US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

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No one tells me what to do.

 

[HackerX]

On today's episode of "You Don't Hate Them Enough":

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People say this, but I do hate them enough. If I hated them anymore, I'd be fedposting outside of Minecraft!!

What sick fuck wants to give their child a bleak future?

Women. Amirite fellas?

Nope, it doesn't even cross their minds. They don't give a shit about white men if it isn't dying in wars, or paying taxes for tranny studies and nigger gibs. Every white (guy or gal) that votes democrat is a sucker and a buffoon.


Surprised she's not a mud shark.

Edit: I looked her up and she's a literal Dem Strategist according to her twitter page.

Dem strategist? You mean the people behind Vance-chair, joy, and "look at project 2025!!!!" Legitimate fucking retards.

Going off on a tangent here, but does the politics thread feel kind of more 'liberal" than the rest of A&N and Deep Thoughts? By more liberal I mean less /pol/ish/Stormfrontey. I mean yeah this place is still pretty right wing, and racism is still accepted but I rarely see the "all non whites and gays should be exterminated" type posts that's typical on Deep Thoughts and news article comments.

Wdym? I've always been one to induct a sportball nignog into "honorary hwite man status". Ya know? Nigger is not a race , but a state of mind and all that.

Quoting you because I can't seem to quote the Johnny Bravo post you're quoting for some reason. (Actually it might be a different post, but whatever at this point, it's still the same)
If Snowden had submitted himself for judgement like that other guy did back in the day, they simply would not have given him a fair day in court. Even if they didn't outright Epstein him (which let's be honest, they would have), the courts in this country are utterly fucked now (Case in point, Trump is a 34 time convicted felon, for paying a lawyer who lied about paying a hooker, or whatever.) even back in the 2010's they were already half-way fucked.

I'm not gonna say that the guy's a hero, I still don't know. But he did stick it to a pretty fucking evil system, and provably showed that they were doing pretty fucking evil shit.
I just wish people cared about the fact that they were (and still are) doing the evil shit more. I don't think him running away is the reason why everyone forgot what he disclosed... I just think most people are pretty fucking stupid, and the so-called journalists aren't even trying to do their jobs anymore.

But he's a traitor for not getting assfucked by the US justice system!!! The same US justice system that assfucked J6 tour members and Donald DRUMPF!!!

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It's literally the God damn meme about libs taking Trump literally but not seriously. Jesus Christ

 

[El Kay Why]

Two terms for Vance, where he brings in the Trump Jrs for a cabinet position test run. The best one gets his turn at the wheel, followed by American Caesar Barron to be crowned Emperor of North America for life.

Do you trust JD to be the successor to the movement? In my opinion, Tucker is the natural heir. I trust DeSantis more than JD, but still like JD allot.

 

[Betonhaus]

you can't quote them automatically as the quote button strips out the nested quotes

 

[AnotherPleb]

Snowden could have made his case in America instead he turned traitor and ran. He's a pussy, a idiot, a coward, fuck him.

Snowden was a dead man walking if he stayed, He wasn't going to go to trial. Not when he pissed off the intelligence agencies.

I don't know if Snowden is a hero or not, but telling America that the government is illegally spying on us *was* a heroic action no matter what the reason was, and I don't blame him for not sticking around afterwards, they would have fucking killed him.

This was deep in King Nigger's admin. They buried a lot of things, they absolutely would have buried him after faking a confession from him.

The problem with Snowden is that the government nailed his dumb ass dead to rights. If he really was as innocent and justified as he says he was, he would have stood trial and shared a fate similar to Ellsberg. There would be no shortage of funds or top-tier lawyers for legal representation.

America in 2014 is far different than America in 1970. For fuck's sake, look at Trump with his FUCK YOU money still struggled to get representation for his cases. If they let him make it to trial (and that is a fucking enormous if) he would have gotten a lawyer that was told to take a knee.

Yeah, if only Prism had never been revealed to the public at all, I'm sure the program would've been halted and all its glowie overlords held to account.

Yeah, that's the thing. Glowies have murdered the fuck out of someone for far less.

Snowden made it impossible for anyone to deny the surveillance and brand the idea as a conspiracy theory.

The only thing that disappointed me about Snowden was the fact that the global West just shrugged when it was all revealed. That man revealed that there's no real privacy anywhere in the West thanks to the governments all working together to ignore any protections and people chose to bury their heads.

The one thing I will absolutely agree with you and Ibanez about is that Obama had the media so far up his ass that they wore his turds on their heads with pride. They would have supported anything their Chocolate Messiah did. However, what the president and the media apparatchiks want is not always reflected in the US legal system.

When it comes to shit as big as this in current year it's not allowed to properly get through the legal system. This is also the same president that did an extrajudicial killing of an American offshore. The only reason he's alive is because he's in Russia.

Exactly. Nothing changed because of Snowden. Who got fired because of the leaks? The NSA still exists and screens your calls. They just got better at it. Why do you think there hasn't been another Snowden? They locked the fuck down.

They locked it the fuck down because of Snowden. Believe me, when it comes to those intelligence agencies on Snowden's level there's no diversity allowed and they absolutely screen for true believers after this.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

Japan's previous PM / current VP of majority party is also starting to croak like Biden and being Weekend at Bernie-d.

https://x.com/mrjeffu/status/1846354910251794828

https://archive.ph/rS7HU

Spoiler: Replies

https://x.com/mrjeffu/status/1847852794818286081

https://archive.ph/VG592

 

[Jade Philosophies]

If you are going to cheat its not at the machine level, they contain numerous safeguards from copies of the ballots (this is called the CVR, cast vote record), to audit logs recording every action taken.

The "safeguards" aren't being utilised for their purpose and are also being circumvented. As the poster below said, some records are missing and some have been destroyed. Plus the courts just aren't interested in all the evidence that is available, including logs, they just dismiss everything off-hand. And they also jail whistleblowers collecting evidence. Then the leftards say "The election was totally safe and secure! The courts dismissed all you nazis' crazy conspiracy theories!"

This is what i'm thinking as i'm watching this lady talk about click x and not clicking y. But in the back of my mind, I'm recalling stories of these logs being deleted or missing from the audits in Maricopa county or Atlanta. But it's hard to recall the objective facts because everyone played up cyberninja's audit but then never mentioned it again.

Here's an example from Georgia:

https://electionoversightgroup.com/docs/ga/691150848-THREE-COUNTS-GA-km-10-25-2023-2.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/2024050...691150848-THREE-COUNTS-GA-km-10-25-2023-2.pdf (I had to use The Wayback Machine as it wouldn't archive on Archive Today.)
Excerpts:

Georgia’s 2020 General Election was not accurate, not credible, and the results cannot be verified. Core election records, including ballot images and logs have been destroyed;

Fulton County’s Original Count results include the votes of 20,713 early voting ballots for which there are no poll tapes, ballot images, recap sheets or other records, whatsoever. What’s more, at the end of early voting the security seals were broken and the memory cards were removed from all early voting tabulators. When the polls closed on Election Day the memory cards were inserted into surrogate machines and fraudulent poll closing tapes were printed. Those poll tapes for nearly 300,000 ballots were never signed, witnessed or certified as required by Georgia law

"WhY ArE wE LoSiNg MaLe VoTeRs"

Because you keep convincing far too many of them to identify as women.

An old notorious lolcow called Deeker AKA Dan Crosby who has a diaper fetish and ran a website all about seeing boys 8-12 in public wearing diapers weighs in.

It's a bit disturbing how I'm just not shocked by any of this anymore. It's just like "Well, of course he's like that!"

Even though I voted for him in 2016— because I thought at the time that he was the lesser of two evils— I was still quite wary and dubious about how he would handle his duties as POTUS.
I have to say that I was not surprised that he said a LOT of very stupid things and handled many issues very badly, but holy SHIT— I could never imagine that he could fuck things up as badly as he did.
To answer the question, the turning point where I officially declared that I hatedhim to the degree that I knew that I could never, ever forgive him for his many, many gaffes (with yet many more to come still) was with his spectacularly and collosally shit-tastically disastrous handling of the COVID pandemic. What an enormously embarrassing DOLT!

Them criticising Trump's handling of COVID-19 is so ridiculous. The only thing he should be criticised for are the things they wanted him to do more of. No doubt Deeker and most others like him wished he'd handled COVID-19 like the CCP and done stuff like lock people in their homes and storm the homes of those infected, drag them out and put them in COVID camps. After all, Australia and New Zealand did it, apart from literally locking people in their own homes. (At least I don't think they did that?)

 

[Aidan]

I expected him not to be a traitor. That's it. That. Is. All. How do you know the trial wouldn't be fair? It's all speculation on your part. And no they couldn't charge him again, double jeopardy laws. Yeah I'm glad he leaked shit. But going to Russia instead of facing what he had done, when he would have had dream team level lawyers at his disposal due to the prestige of the case... nah. Can't cosign that.

For the record, he didn't flee to Russia, he fled to Hong Kong and then was en route to South America when the US canceled his passport while he was in Russia. They played themselves.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

@WelperHelper99

Snowden did the right thing. He tore away the mask that the NSA and Homeland security were fighting terrorism and instead just spying on Americans. He chose to be a thorn in the side of the security state rather than a martyr who would be forgotten.

People forget that Obama prosecuted more whistleblowers than any other president and kill the Americans with drones

 

[Fapcop]

On the contrast, this fag, myself, is voting for Trump a 3rd time.

If all the LGB and T who will vote... A lot will stay home for various reasons.

The gay vote is about 40/60 or 50/50. Especially if you factor in conservatives who are closeted or private about their homosexuality.

I'd say the lesbian vote is about 65-70% for Kamala.

Troons and pooners are probably gonna go 88% for Kamala.

The Queertards think they hold a grip on everyone who isn't straight.

Last election, exit polls showed that Trump had doubled his LGBT support. From 14 to 28%.

(Also it’s an exit poll, so I guess you can add 5-10% for the shy homos.)

This year I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump gets 40% or more of the homo vote.

 

[ShitLurker]

White women coming in clutch for Kamabla

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I'm just surprised the baby ain't black.

 

[God of Nothing]

White women coming in clutch for Kamabla

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Post-birth abortion?
the jokes write themselves

 

[Fapcop]

Do you trust JD to be the successor to the movement? In my opinion, Tucker is the natural heir. I trust DeSantis more than JD, but still like JD allot.

Tucker hell yeah. Not sure if he’d be interested though. Could see him as a great Secretary of State.

Had Snowden stayed and faced a public trial, things might have played out very differently and the government may have been forced to face some sort of accountability. That's what Ellsberg did. Since that's not what happened, we will never know.

Snowden was a hero. It wasn’t his fault the USG cancelled his password while he was traveling and the only place that would take him was Russia. Tens of thousands of contractors saw what he saw. None of them had the guts to say: “Spying on US citizens?! Spyware in Smart TVs?! Fuck this shit is wrong!”

Because the Russians, Iranians, and Chinese are so much better?

Don’t care. I give zero fucks what they do to their own citizens. I assume they’re trying to spy on some Americans, I don’t have a problem with that, it’s what governments do to other nations citizens. Especially if the nations are openly hostile.
But spying on your own citizens when it’s supposed to be illegal is some first grade bullshit.

Also: It’s a damn shame the plane that hid the Pentagon wasn’t aimed at the NSA or Langley instead. Might have taken out some actual crooks, instead of Pentagon paper pushers waiting for that sweet retirement.

The reason why lots of people look poorly upon Snowden is because he fled. This stands in stark contrast to Daniel Ellsberg. Ellsberg famously leaked the Pentagon Papers in 1971, which was the the biggest US intelligence leak of the Cold War. Instead of running away to a country that would take him, Ellsberg stayed in the US and faced his country's legal system. To quote Ellsberg himself:

Bullshit. The US of the 1970ies wasn’t the clusterfuck the US is today.
In the 70ies you still had actually sane people and patriots elected to Congress.

They eviscerated the CIA in a series of public hearings, and drove a stake in the heart of the “intelligence community” that kept them pretending to be good bois for almost a decade.
Fuck, CONGRESS BASICALLY ACCUSED THE CIA OF KILLING JFK in the 70ies.

Compare that to the 2010s. Domestic spying has been going full on for over a decade. Obama sent actual journalists to jail and would bend over backwards for the intelligence fucks. Half the media were in their pockets.

There is absolutely no way a Snowden trial wouldn’t have ended with a suicide or 3 decades in an ultramax. And the trial itself would be censored because “Muh national security”.

The cognitive dissonance some of you guys have is really mind boggling.

“Yeah I know the deep state is in deep with the Dems and try to fix elections. Yeah, they have no problems with putting Americans behind bars and sabotaging the President for his entire term… But hold on now! Revealing the Security Blobs dirty secrets?! IN PUBLIC?! That’s heckin unpatriotic!”

I swear to god, when some of you faggots will be put up against the wall, you’ll try to shake your executioners head.

“Oh! You served in Afghanistan?! That’s awesome dude, thanks for your service! No where do you want me to stand, right in front of the wall? I know you’re doing your duty and don’t want to make it too hard hehe! We’re all patriots here!”

 

[Absolutego]

I leave this thread for 18 hours and it's still fighting over whether or not Snowden is a hero whistleblower or a coward who let himself be turned into a foreign agent

 

[Fapcop]

I leave this thread for 18 hours and it's still fighting over whether or not Snowden is a hero whistleblower or a coward who let himself be turned into a foreign agent

That was my last post on the matter.

And given how HJB’s takes are usually NOT insane, I’m willing to overlook his retardation, if he publicly makes a promise to try not to deepthroat the deep states cock so hard.

Also: You should totally call out Hollywood Hulk Hogan, invite him in here, mock him for voting for a horse faced, half nog whore, and ask if he’ll drink his bitter, Democrat, cuck tears neat, or if he plans on washing them down with bourbon on election night.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Regarding the Snowden sperging...

My wife and I have been busy offshoring from Canada for the last two years to many places. She is currently buying citizenship in a country in a place we will call "the Bulf of Bexico". Even doing this shit, completely legal and following all international laws, is scary as shit. I can't imagine how scared shitless Snowden must have been when he fled to Hong Kong and beyond after making enemies of the USG and the NSA. I generally think he did the best he could, but the shit going through his head on those flights must have been wild.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Tucker the heir to the movement? The darling spoiled brat son of a CIA superstar and a champagne hippie heiress who neglected her kids, leaving them with all kinds of trauma?
The halfwit who wanted to be a CIA stooge himself, but couldn't make it even with daddie's connections?
The New York billionaire weirdo?
The guy who gives stage to absolute human scum like Putin and the Tate Bros.?
The guy who had to be told not to wear a gay bowtie?
Are you mad?

 

[Fapcop]

Regarding the Snowden sperging...

My wife and I have been busy offshoring from Canada for the last two years to many places. She is currently buying citizenship in a country in a place we will call "the Bulf of Bexico". Even doing this shit, completely legal and following all international laws, is scary as shit. I can't imagine how scared shitless Snowden must have been when he fled to Hong Kong and beyond after making enemies of the USG and the NSA. I generally think he did the best he could, but the shit going through his head on those flights must have been wild.

Word. And he KNEW what they’re capable of.

If Trump manages to win, the only way he’ll ever be able to accomplish anything in his term, and secure future MAGA candidates, will be by taking on these treacherous fucks.

Cut and slash the intelligence blob until they’re small enough to drown in a bathtub. Cut the FBI by 50% and send the money to the states bureaus instead. Cut the CIA and NSA until they’re 10% of their current budget and manpower.

You’ll know America has a future, if the backstreets of DC are full of former spooks and blob members slinging crack and offering to suck your dick for 20$, because Trump fired them all and took their precious clearances.

And then, once he’s pretty certain that they don’t have the power to “lone gunman” him or Vance, Trump should invite Snowden back, give him a full pardon and apology, and either hire him as the new director of the CIA or appoint him as the chairman of a commission to investigate domestic spying and collusion.

The halfwit who wanted to be a CIA stooge himself, but couldn't make it even with daddie's connections?
The New York billionaire weirdo?
The guy who gives stage to absolute human scum like Putin and the Tate Bros.?
The guy who had to be told not to wear a gay bowtie?
Are you mad?

Lenin was a former aristocrat himself. Never underestimate what a powerful force a defector from the ruling class can be.

Tucker is a brilliant communicator, very intelligent and knows the nature of the enemy. He’d make a great Sec of State for sure.

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

Once Trump loses this election, it will be game for us in every way. There will be nobody left to fight back against the establishment


The fact that there is a non-insignificant number of people who still think Trump has a chance this year is baffling to me. The steal will be larger than it has ever been in history. I expect 90-100M+ votes for Kamala, and nobody will object.

Hurricane Helene begs to differ. Many rural voters in key Trump strongholds will not be able to vote.

You being a raging faggot doesn't bother me, but doubleposters should be shot into the sun.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

“Glowies are spying on you illegally!”

No fucking shit. It’s like if I ran into Planet Fitness and screamed it was only for fat white women and faggots who don’t really want to improve health or workout.

Fuck you. You are exactly the kind of smug faggot that first goes „this doesn’t happen schizo“, and when it is proven to happen, goes „uh we all knew already“.

Do you have any idea of how monumental those leaks were? The things the Feds were proven to be doing are far beyond what even the biggest schizos had been fantasizing about.