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Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States
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yep
Sucks that character designs like in FRLG seem to be a thing of the past now.
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So.. they are making a demake of new ganea to GBC... They are working on the sprites, pretty cool stuff.
Also as I play Sacred Gold... Jesus I fucking hate Kanto so much and I really don't care about Johto. Johto feels very undercooked, even with this modified version adding new stuff.
I feel that the feeling of adventure just started at hoenn, sinnoh was alright and BW was kinda linear but the routes were good, then BW2 fixed it all.
Johto feels kanto 1.5 even in the remakes. And the worse part is that I played the Silver sequel not long ago and I didn't feel this way, so there must be something with the vanilla version
Also as I play Sacred Gold... Jesus I fucking hate Kanto so much and I really don't care about Johto. Johto feels very undercooked, even with this modified version adding new stuff.
I feel that the feeling of adventure just started at hoenn, sinnoh was alright and BW was kinda linear but the routes were good, then BW2 fixed it all.
Johto feels kanto 1.5 even in the remakes. And the worse part is that I played the Silver sequel not long ago and I didn't feel this way, so there must be something with the vanilla version
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What the fuck were they thinking with this?
Yes, this is an actual game TPCi planned to release
Apparently these were 5 second minigames for a scrapped TCG that was planned to release in 2019.
There is already Monster Hunter spergs trying to argue with /vp/ over Pokemon Rodeo. And so, a legend was born!
That quote is going to become one of those screenshots with tons of greentext replies cause that's what's happening right now, kek
PLA team apparently was crunching late into the night, if these commit dates are anything to go by
I already posted a lot of XY artwork, but there is somehow more
Something I've noticed is that there would have been a big focus on solar and wind energy in Kalos, probably a reference to how green EU likes to be. Shame we never got to see that, hell we barely even got the Energy Plant in the game as is.
Heads from various bits of artwork in Masters
Yes, this is an actual game TPCi planned to release
Apparently these were 5 second minigames for a scrapped TCG that was planned to release in 2019.
There is already Monster Hunter spergs trying to argue with /vp/ over Pokemon Rodeo. And so, a legend was born!
That quote is going to become one of those screenshots with tons of greentext replies cause that's what's happening right now, kek
PLA team apparently was crunching late into the night, if these commit dates are anything to go by
I already posted a lot of XY artwork, but there is somehow more
Something I've noticed is that there would have been a big focus on solar and wind energy in Kalos, probably a reference to how green EU likes to be. Shame we never got to see that, hell we barely even got the Energy Plant in the game as is.
Heads from various bits of artwork in Masters
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Most normal studios wouldn’t though, that’s why things get scrapped. They look at stuff and go ‘we don’t have time, is it worth it bringing on more people to do this? No, it isn’t.’ And then that as you note usually gets followed up with ‘we like the core idea, can we still use that somehow?’
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So basically TPCi intended to make thier own WarioWare clone instead of making some microgames to put into a WarioWare game and now they're making a Splatoon Clone for the same system that has 2 Splatoon games on it? Are they trying to cannibalize their own sales with other Nintendo properties at this rate?
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Omg it's a bold choice, but I really like it...
Don't cry because it's over, laugh because it happened.Man, why'd you have to bring that up? I will never be over the fact he was only pretending to be retarded
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The quote is not wrong.
Yeah. It’s game dev, it would be concerning if they weren’t. Especially with the issue PLA had.
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Look, you clearly don't know what you're talking about and I am busy with other things right now, so I won't argue with you. Most studios aren't retarded(or as retarded) as GF and TPCi, they tend to make good games once in a while. There is zero excuses for their decisions, be it for not remastering the superior GC titles or cancelling something like this but giving green light to SV in the state it released in. Monster Hunter Pokemon game would print an entire bank, it doesn't matter if it would take a year, two, three or more it would get released one way or another by any other normal studio if they were in charge, especially since even these early builds already show promise. If they don't have the people, hire more, you're the most successful entertainment franchise in the world and can afford it. There is no excuses, Gamefreak apologists are the dumbest docile nigger cattle on the planet and that's the truth.
PLA is likely the last remnant of that concept and Z-A will probably copy even more of their homework, at least now we will know if they do. There is no other way to put this, we were simply robbed.
I have no clue what TPCi is thinking, only that I don't really think that Warioware/TCG clone would have gone anywhere. We know too little about that Splatoon clone but it's not something I am interested in, I just want that MonHun game already. Knowing that we are doomed to have SV1.5 for Gen 10 is infuriating when we now know there was something much better in the works.
There is so much stuff being posted that I forgot to post a few things.
This is from the leaked PLA build, which you can play right now BTW if you have the know-how.
Why Brock is here, let alone in what looks like his Anime getup, is beyond me. One of the less weird things about PLA betas so far.
I missed a few lore documents, there is probably more I haven't seen since these docs just keep getting dropped
Hi-res scan of HGSS if anybody wants it
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I do. Game companies tend to scrap a lot of good stuff frequently due to money and time. As for SV, considering they slowed down for Gen 10, I feel like they might have been forced to release it
That’s not how game dev works. You don’t just make every game that shows promise. The devs can’t. Studios that try to do that eventually balloon and start falting under their own scope.. if you are doing such a thing, it’s all you are working and you are ignoring all time constraints. And the fact that you have 0 money. It’s not a normal studio that can do that.
The issue is GF is not such a studio.
God knows why TOC and GF can’t do that or won’t. Zelda is now known for being announced early and then the director going ‘It will be done when it’s done, prob 6 years, not two’ and just burning al the money they need to.
Maybe if the games and anime had connections to each other but ever since 7 and especially 8, they clearly don’t.
Heck a longer 4 to maybe 5 year dev cycle if not 7 would make it so they don’t actually run out of Pokemon design ideas.
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This just dropped, scratchpad for DP. Only Gen 1-2 Pokemon leaked and not much has been annotated, so it's best you just take a look for yourselves
These scratchpads are a goldmine of new info, can't wait till they drop ones for Gen 4 Pokemon
Brand new screenshots for prototype Battle Frontier
The XY page also has an interesting edit, apparently just like Xerneas was originally a Dark type, Yveltal a Fairy type. The typings got switched for the two box legendaries for some reason, not sure if it was a mistake or a case of different designs yet. There is new discoveries for Gen 7 but unfortunately nothing interesting, not with how little development builds we got anyways.
I have no clue how this got mixed in with the rest of the leaks, but apparently there is even new Smash Bros info within this article
I wonder what daddy Nintendo thinks of this. We're now getting other franchises other than Pokemon caught in the cross fire.
These scratchpads are a goldmine of new info, can't wait till they drop ones for Gen 4 Pokemon
Brand new screenshots for prototype Battle Frontier
The XY page also has an interesting edit, apparently just like Xerneas was originally a Dark type, Yveltal a Fairy type. The typings got switched for the two box legendaries for some reason, not sure if it was a mistake or a case of different designs yet. There is new discoveries for Gen 7 but unfortunately nothing interesting, not with how little development builds we got anyways.
I have no clue how this got mixed in with the rest of the leaks, but apparently there is even new Smash Bros info within this article
I wonder what daddy Nintendo thinks of this. We're now getting other franchises other than Pokemon caught in the cross fire.
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Did they remove all gender differences in the final game/other projects?
I remember that some were introduced in gen 4
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Looks like the sprites are staying in the GBC system limit of sprites being limited to 4 colors.
yep gen 4 was when the differences started
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I've looked thru and it looks like the same gender differences from the previous leaks are there, as well as completely new sprites I've never seen before. Someone would have to compare these to the ones leaked earlier and final ones to confirm, it will take a few days.
Somebody posted what the premise of Rodeo would have been. No source so it could be bullshit, amazed that they pretty much showed off Shadow Pokemon but they still don't want to call them that. The grudge against Genius Sonority is real
Lore on the tanned boulder king of Kalos
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An open world game where you can ride any Pokemon into a real time battle and customize them with markings. We. Were. So. ROBBED.
Yet the odd thing is, this isn't an idea that was just quickly drafted with a couple of test environments and preexisting assets (minus the placeholder music). It was relatively developed, the environment is polished and the models, even if there aren't many, have more defined textures. Weirder yet, none of the assets in this game appeared in future games.
I've no idea why it was scrapped, but this was not the gamedev equivalent of a napkin doodle, they wanted to go somewhere with this. I trust that GF isn't retarded enough not to realize that a real-time open world game where you directly control your Pokemon would've sold like hotcakes.
Yet the odd thing is, this isn't an idea that was just quickly drafted with a couple of test environments and preexisting assets (minus the placeholder music). It was relatively developed, the environment is polished and the models, even if there aren't many, have more defined textures. Weirder yet, none of the assets in this game appeared in future games.
I've no idea why it was scrapped, but this was not the gamedev equivalent of a napkin doodle, they wanted to go somewhere with this. I trust that GF isn't retarded enough not to realize that a real-time open world game where you directly control your Pokemon would've sold like hotcakes.
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I mean, that’s what they’ve been trying to get down sunce Gen 8. Then we got PLA and then we got SV. They obviously aren’t giving up on it. The question is what forced them to scale back so hard. Cause they clearly want to do it.
I know I have thought one should have happened since the Wii game you enough controls to move both the trainer and command mons.
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One thing that gets lost in the mix is that Pokémon was on a six-year development cycle: for Red and Green. This was also back when anything more than a year, maybe eighteen months, was seen as self-indulgent, especially for a handheld game. It was when the series was printing infinite money that they started reducing development time, with Gen 2 being made with half a team concurrent to Yellow in said eighteen months.
The problem I have with these fan suggestions of “a Pokémon MMO would print money,” or “Pokémon monster hunter would print money,” are that they exist solely as these high-concept elevator pitches without addressing how the game would be fun while also maintaining Pokémon’s source identity. As has been demonstrated before: just slapping Pokémon on another gameplay style doesn’t automatically sell. Hell, fans have demonstrated that any variation in the contemporary zeitgeist won’t necessarily sell. Just look at Gen 5 or the Colosseum games.
That doesn’t even take into account how the fan zeitgeist has gotten increasingly worse as time goes on. Open world Pokémon? Boring. Competitive Pokémon? Boring. Lore? Boring. Shiny hunting? Fucking boring. At its core Pokémon has always been a (very simple) JRPG, but most Pokémon fans, especially the most vocal ones, are too developmentally stunted to effectively play into the strengths of the genre. The only similarity between the reception of Pokémon games and Zelda games is that the latest game is always the worst one, but with the caveat that the quality of Zelda games don’t necessarily reflect that opinion, whereas with Pokémon the only time that’s happened was Gen 5.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was something as petty as GF throwing their weight around. They wouldn't want to be upstaged with their "big" debut into 3D open world with SV and people would definitely mock it even more with Rodeo to compare it to. There is already enough of that with PLA.
The GC games would warrant a similar grudge, we've already seen videos mocking comparing a 20 year old game to how SwSh works and there is no way GF isn't aware of those comparisons either, the only excuse they had was the hardware and that's gone. There isn't a better explanation, not one that makes sense anyways, and there is plenty of examples of retarded office politics in Japan. This wouldn't shock me, this is one thing that should have gotten released out of everything we've dug up so far and it didn't, no explanation given.
@McMitch You're missing that this was more than an "elevator pitch", this was clearly going places...until it wasn't. If complaints as base as the ones you described would have been the issue, this would have never gotten off the ground, these prototypes still took time and money to make after all.
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TCRF should have what you need, dig around in there and see if that's what you're looking for