Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

McMitch said:
One thing that gets lost in the mix is that Pokémon was on a six-year development cycle: for Red and Green.
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I know. Wish they’d go back to that on occasion honestly
McMitch said:
This was also back when anything more than a year, maybe eighteen months, was seen as self-indulgent, especially for a handheld game.
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Still is. The idea of 4 is even. To say nothing of 6. One game in a series per console cycle, most look at you funny.

The fact that BG3 took 7 was a thing of great interest.
McMitch said:
As has been demonstrated before: just slapping Pokémon on another gameplay style doesn’t automatically sell. Hell, fans have demonstrated that any variation in the contemporary zeitgeist won’t necessarily sell. Just look at Gen 5 or the Colosseum games
That doesn’t even take into account how the fan zeitgeist has gotten increasingly worse as time goes on. Open world Pokémon? Boring. Competitive Pokémon? Boring. Lore? Boring. Shiny hunting? Fucking boring.
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The fact that I know Pokemon has scrapped likely so many good ideas because fan response annoys me so.

I still fondly remember how people talked about PLA and BDSP before they released. Oh what a switch that was lol.
 
One of the planned stages for Rodeo. Don't tell me we weren't absolutely ROBBED
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30+GameOvers said:
@McMitch You're missing that this was more than an "elevator pitch", this was clearly going places...until it wasn't. If complaints as base as the ones you described would have been the issue, this would have never gotten off the ground, these prototypes still took time and money to make after all.
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Because that’s what happens with prototyping. They probably got to the point they did when someone asked “well what can we do with this?” And because no one could answer it got scrapped. Pokémon didn’t really need more alternate capturing mechanics, and a more realistic look risked genericizing it, like how Palworld looks. There’s nothing here that tells me these games would be anything but boring.
 
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The gender differences is a cool concept but by seeing this page most of them just have bigger parts like bigger mustache and ears.

I would rather if they went into nidoran stuff and make something more visually interesting like making poliwag circle go into other directions.

I didn't see all of then but the notable ones were the beedrill and psyduck. They should do more with color instead of just bigger horn.

These ones are cool:

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Both heracross and pinsir lines got fucked lol
 
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McMitch said:
Because that’s what happens with prototyping. They probably got to the point they did when someone asked “well what can we do with this?” And because no one could answer it got scrapped. Pokémon didn’t really need more alternate capturing mechanics, and a more realistic look risked genericizing it, like how Palworld looks. There’s nothing here that tells me these games would be anything but boring.
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Rodeo would have been better than SV, altho that's not a high bar to beat
It doesn't matter at the end of the day if you in particular think this would have been "boring", point is that there would have been a high demand for this kind of game, and it would have made tons of money. They planned to release this for both Switch and mobile, with progress you could share between the two versions. Switch version alone is one thing, but the real money is in the mobile market, this would have been a fantastic idea. If something sloppy like Union could easily release, there is no good reason this had for a shelving.
Any reason for a game like this to be scrapped would have been stupid and petty anyways, let's not even give TPCi any benefit of the doubt. It's clear they aren't playing with a full deck, they've only passed by with mediocrity or worse so far thanks to Pokemon brand alone and nothing else.
 
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Registration said:
I would rather if they went into nidoran stuff and make something more visually interesting like making poliwag circle go into other directions.
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JIGGLYPUFF SEEN FROM ABOVE!
Registration said:
I didn't see all of then but the notable ones were the beedrill and psyduck. They should do more with color instead of just bigger horn
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They absolutely should.

Solely because I can’t even tell the difference.

When going through to make a Living Dex I realised that if not for the male/female symbol next to names I would not be able to tell.
 
30+GameOvers said:
point is that there would have been a high demand for this kind of game
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This is where we disagree. I don’t believe there’s a high demand for this type of game, I believe there’s a vocal demand for this type of game. And the issue with vocal demand vs high demand is vocal demand never actually purchases the product they’re rallying for.
 
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McMitch said:
This is where we disagree. I don’t believe there’s a high demand for this type of game, I believe there’s a vocal demand for this type of game. And the issue with vocal demand vs high demand is vocal demand never actually purchases the product they’re rallying for.
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This isn't an opinion, Monster Hunter already has a borderline monopoly on it's own unique brand of gameplay and Pokemon making a more easily accessible game with a similar concept(on a mobile phone no less) would have been something else. The only credible theory I am seeing with what happened to this project right now is that it is being reworked for Synapse, the Splatoon clone. This is still a retarded idea, but at least it makes more sense than it being shelved "because it wouldn't sell".
TPCi doesn't care what people want, they know that they could put Pikachu's face on a bag of dogshit and it will sell over 10 million copies in 3 days. This is not an excuse and never will be.
 
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It looks like you would have played these games to unlock some of the cards
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I really don't see a point, why not just give these to you if you can beat these in literally 5 seconds? You really don't need minigames when TCG is complicated enough to play for newcomers.

More concept art from a game that apparently nobody would have bought
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This looks similar to the area shown in the videos. There is only one raid boss made at that point, Garchomp, and it's 30% complete from what the documentation shows. Next raid boss in development would have been Entei.
Aside from bosses you could fight in co-op with other players, there was an option to grind by doing missions or catching Pokemon/collecting items, again by yourself or with other people. NPCs were planned to take place of real players if you wanted to play solo or matchmaking failed to find anybody, similarly to how Raids are done in Gen 8 and 9. Aside from your Ride Pokemon, you could also choose your HM slave, not the name given but they would have worked the same way: Offering you passive abilities, except these would have actually been useful, both offensively and defensively. Those have also been shown off in the videos I posted earlier.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
The only credible theory I am seeing with what happened to this project right now is that it is being reworked for Synapse, the Splatoon clone. This is still a retarded idea, but at least it makes more sense than it being shelved "because it wouldn't sell".
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The open-ish world and using Pokemon to traverse terrain was used in PLA, real-time combat was used in the MOBA, and the raids were used in the next mainline games, so they reused some of the ideas they came up with. Into shittier versions, but that's what you get with this franchise.

I'm trying to think why they would've cancelled this. My best guess is that it was caused by concerns over the franchise's image. Maybe a higher up pointed out that real-time brawling with realistically-textured Pokemon was too far removed from what they wanted Pokemon as a brand to be. But it's odd that they let the project get so far if that was the case. It could've also been like Scalebound where they just got too ambitious for the team's capabilities and decided to pull the plug.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
But Pokken gets a pass because?
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Yeah, none of those theories make sense. Mine about a GF grudge could actually have some ground here, until more details come up. Shame to see such a fun project get cannibalized like this.

anliteralidiot said:
And he fooled us! He made us fucking think she was milking him of his tard cum, when he was just fucking with us!
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Speak for yourself, I called that dumbass out the minute they started that shit. Should have went with something more believable and who knows how long that larp could have lasted.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
But Pokken gets a pass because?
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It might be stuff like doing Pokken that turned them off this,

Likely honestly that due to scope they could not handle it. It explains why all the core ideas seem to have been broken up into multiple pieces.

If you plug it all into one game while keeping the style we’ve been shown, it would likely take way longer to make and be way too resource intensive for the seeming size of the GF Pokemon Team, especially when they are clearly in the process of trying to get a core group of new talent up to par.
 
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Saint Agustin said:
Can any of you tard obsessed pokefags explain to me what the fuck is up with the leak?! Is it true that typhlosion is a pedo raper or something and that one dude fucked an octopus?!

Is that true???
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Can you read the thread, my dude?
If not, I'm sure your favorite subreddit will spoonfeed you the most important bits sometime next week, when the second half of the Terrabyte sized leak finishes dropping.
 
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