Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 169 9.4%
  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 389 21.7%
  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 376 21.0%
  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 855 47.8%

  • Total voters
    1,790
They were more influenced by GRR Martin, I believe. At that time, fantasy was going all edgy as a reactionary movement against the cheesy, unapologetic sword and sorcery tropes of the previous few decades, so lots of rape, violence, and other fun stuff for no reason other than because.

It's mostly performative, as most of these people never really embrace the darkness, just the edge. That or maybe they were on lots of coke - the same excuse Stephen King and his fans used to wave away the kiddie gang bang in IT.
origins came out 2 years before game of thrones. till that point most people didn't give a shit about it. fantasy itself was never that big on TV with some exceptions like LOTR which hit a lot different.
it was just 2000's edge with some gore, combined with a time where you still had people allowed to be creative even if the execution wasn't the best or felt a bit ow the edge.
 
origins came out 2 years before game of thrones. till that point most people didn't give a shit about it. fantasy itself was never that big on TV with some exceptions like LOTR which hit a lot different.
it was just 2000's edge with some gore, combined with a time where you still had people allowed to be creative even if the execution wasn't the best or felt a bit ow the edge.

Fantasy nerds, like the ones who made Dragon Age, absolutely did give a shit about ASOIAF. It was specifically cited as an influence by the devs. They even use the honorific "Ser" as a shout-out to it.
 
Fantasy nerds, like the ones who made Dragon Age, absolutely did give a shit about ASOIAF. It was specifically cited as an influence by the devs. They even use the honorific "Ser" as a shout-out to it.
nerd devs of old are and never were the mainstream audience they're catering to now, they just made the game they wanted.
my point was more that it wasn't because people asked for it or there was general demand, even the "I wanna fuck an alien" weirdos on BSN only became more mainstream later after tumbler exploded and degenerates found it acceptable to talk publicly about their freak goon sessions, this is now bioware's target demographic.
 
nerd devs of old are and never were the mainstream audience they're catering to now, they just made the game they wanted.
my point was more that it wasn't because people asked for it or there was general demand, even the "I wanna fuck an alien" weirdos on BSN only became more mainstream later after tumbler exploded and degenerates found it acceptable to talk publicly about their freak goon sessions, this is now bioware's target demographic.

Ironically, they created a lost golden age which we can only observe from the ruins of the current day with aching nostalgia.

Speaking of how once great franchises keep getting beshitted, there's a Mass Effect board game that just hit the shelves, and guess what:

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There was just a wave of bans at BGG that happened. And it turns out that people daring to question the pronouns in the game were the recipients.

From what I heard, they were hitting it with 1 star reviews and the designer pitched a fit, to which BGG immediately kowtowed.
 
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I definitely remember Gaider mentioning A Song of Fire & Ice being an inspiration for the game in pre-release interviews, though every link I find to stuff that old is broken.
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I did some digging and I've only found two things of interest, the first being wikipedia's own lack of a source for this.

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Does anyone know if BioWare used the Night's Watch as an inspiration for their Grey Wardens?
Duncan could be Benjen Stark and the Human story could be right out of A Song of Ice and Fire.
In addition, the oaths the Grey Wardens take and the training they go through are very similar.
The second being this tweet in response to the above quote, which is currently hidden due to Gaider being a giant baby and for which I was unable to find an archive of other than this screenshot. I'll also say I saw a bunch of his whining while sifting through recent interviews he's done, I didn't realize he'd gotten this bad.
 
How does "she/they" work, exactly? You can call her "she" or "they"? Why not just stick to one of those two, then?
It doesn't, and I never had a genderspecial able to articulate in words why they specifically needed a singular and plural pronoun together, except for the expected "my feels" and "respect me!!!!!"
 
Managed to find an archive of one of the older interviews I was looking for.

TVGB: Out of curiosity, what are some of your personal inspirations when writing a project like this?

DG:
Well, if you look in terms of other creative works, there are books by George R. R. Martin like Song of Ice and Fire. Now, some have come into our forums and ask “Well, how is this like George R. R. Martin books?” I don’t try to copy them. As a source of inspiration, when something inspires you, you’re not going to copy it, you’re going to look at those elements that are sort of “Oh, wow! That’s really cool!” and take that away from it. I know there was a period a number of years ago where I was kind of “fantasied out” a little bit. I’d read The Wheel of Time and The Balgariad by David Eddings, and I enjoyed them just fine, but they kind of started the same way. They kind of are both about this young man in some remote village, you know, kind of pastoral existence and then some people swoop in, spirit him away because he’s the chosen one, and just as his village is destroyed. I mean they both start exactly the same way and they’re both very like, “Chosen One! Capital C, capital O! Ooh! You’re the only one who can fulfill the prophecy!” Good Lord, another prophecy. I mean, that has its place, and I like high fantasy, too, but after two major things like that I was kind of like “Oh God, does all fantasy have to be ‘Chosen One?’ Does it all have to be ‘Prophecy? Predestination?’
 
Ironically, they created a lost golden age which we can only observe from the ruins of the current day with aching nostalgia.

Speaking of how once great franchises keep getting beshitted, there's a Mass Effect board game that just hit the shelves, and guess what:

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This really makes me mad. Especially since the Space Waifus are quite literally hyper feminine to the max. So despite not being sexually dimorphous, they prefer forming relationships with species that have a male sexual gender.

I hate seeing things I loved years ago being worn like a skin suit by these monsters.
 
Is Gaider retarded or am I misreading that tweet?

The Night's Watch was not the first order of knights like what he describes in fantasy. Shoot, Warhammer predates A Song of Fire and Ice has like 20 orders like that. One can argue that the Dunedain and Ithilien Rangers occupy the same role as the Grey Wardens and Night's Watch in Lord of The Rings.

Fantasy often takes inspiration from real life, so there of course ought to be any number of derivatives of real world military orders and locations in a different fantasy settings. For example, what if we take the Knights Hospitaller and Krak des Chevaliers, place them on the great wall of China, and replace the Mongols with monsters?

Just because it was the first he read doesn't mean it was the first to be in fantasy.
 
I think you are misreading him. His snotty and sarcastic response is for that person that asked whether Gaider was inspired by the Night's Watch in creating the Grey Wardens.

This is one time I don't blame him for his rudeness. Who asks someone whether that someone copied this or that? What do they expect that someone to say? "Yes, I borrowed heavily from this and that, LOL?"
 
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This really makes me mad. Especially since the Space Waifus are quite literally hyper feminine to the max. So despite not being sexually dimorphous, they prefer forming relationships with species that have a male sexual gender.
These are the people who accept futa asari as canon. It's just like Discworld having female dwarves with facial hair. It's not just that it's a unique quirk the race have in the setting, like the Asari being mono-gendered. They have to warp it back around so that it represents them.

Found a vid posted on the steam forums. This person had early access and apparently companions can't be downed.

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About ASoIAF, I definitely heard by old french and anglo grognards that it was already a known thing among BioWare devs ten years before Origins. The Iron Throne conspiracy in BG1 is a reference apparently.
Nearly all those grunts I read or spoke with were at least 10 to 20 years older than me. It is also possible some of their knowledge comes from magazine and comments made by devs on websites of yore. So anecdotal at best for me.

I think you can find old post speaking about it on RPGCodex. Another archive/source could be Grognardia for exemple. Good luck if you are autistic and willing enough to go look for it in any case.
In anticipation of a hate playthrough of Trannyguard, what does everyone's Inquisitor look like? This one is mine:

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Only on the most surface level does Dragon Age resemble Middle-earth: elves which bear no resemblance to Tolkien elves, and dwarves who live in underground mountain strongholds.
In retrospect, I guess a closer parallel would be Warhammer/Warcraft rather than Tolkien. The main reason I was thinking of Tolkien was how much the darkspawn reminded me of Orcs.
 
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At best, Thedas could be some far distant eastern land away from Middle Earth where all the wood elf rejects went to drink rock blood and then some drunk human peasants wandered into the region and shit went nuts.
Either way, it's fun to imagine someone like Celebrimbor from the Shadow of Mordor games rolling up in a place like Thedas and being able to whoop anyone's ass. Just a random thought.
 
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