The British Summer of Discontent - The growing civil unrest of the native British population, sparked by the murder of 3 young girls in Southport

Is there even a British mafia anymore? I fully expect every native gang has been wiped out completely by the cops and foreign intervention.
I heard something about Eastern Europeans trying to get in on the drug business in Glasgow but the native families chased them out. Don't quote me on it though
 
Have a look at the retards who got caught up in the EncroChat sting. Mostly low to midlevel gangsters who had operations over most of Western Europe.

The media only talk about them once they’re safely in prison and have lost their power.
 
As far as I am aware, Robin Hood was just a generic name for an outlaw back in the day, kind of like how John Doe is a generic name for a victim.
There appears to have been at least two actual recorded outlaws whom the name and legend was attributed to. It might have taken on being a generic name as you say, but there definitely was a guy who seemed to answer to the name Robin/Robert/Something else similar Hood who was recorded as being held in Nottingham Castle.
There was also an outlaw who operated around the Sherwood forest area and seemed to originate from what is now Sandal in Wakefield, which is suspected to be what was Locksley.
He was known as Robin of the Hoode or something similar.

The point anyway, is that there is a general rose tinted nostalgia around the Krays and being described as a "Robin Hood" implies that they were a form of rebel who stuck it to the undeserving wealthy and corrupt, sharing their spoils with the deserving rather than stealing for personal gain.
The opposite was true. They were horrible fuckers who didn't really give a shit who got in the way and would have happily stolen bread from starving orphans if it suited their purposes.
 
I pulled child Two out of their extracurricular 'community building' visit to the mosque because no daughter of mine is going to any fucking mosque. I am so popular with the other mothers right now. Fucks are not given.

"It's not like you are going to refuse them going on the trip to [local site of Lutheran heresy] is it??"
"Yes I am. We are Catholics. It is not appropriate for them to go to Protestant churches."

I confirmed they will go to the synagogue visit "to show solidarity with the people of Israel" and I have been thrown out of the 'extracurricular mothers' WhatsApp group.

Just another day in the multicultural tolerance paradise that is the 'United Kingdom'
When I visited Carcassonne they had little crusader costumes for kids. They want head coverings, crusader helmets are head coverings. Richard the Lionheart style, Deus Vult.
Well done. Mine would have a terrible case if the shits I’m afraid if school pulled that.
I’ve been thrown out of every single mums group I ever had to join. Consider it a badge of honour. it’s even funnier if you kind of have to be in them for school stuff if you make your husband do it and interact with the HiveMind/Viper pit.
I'll take this warning to heart when future wife has to send future kids to school. PTA Hive Minds are something I have no insight into, but it sounds terrifying.
There appears to have been at least two actual recorded outlaws whom the name and legend was attributed to. It might have taken on being a generic name as you say, but there definitely was a guy who seemed to answer to the name Robin/Robert/Something else similar Hood who was recorded as being held in Nottingham Castle.
There was also an outlaw who operated around the Sherwood forest area and seemed to originate from what is now Sandal in Wakefield, which is suspected to be what was Locksley.
He was known as Robin of the Hoode or something similar.

The point anyway, is that there is a general rose tinted nostalgia around the Krays and being described as a "Robin Hood" implies that they were a form of rebel who stuck it to the undeserving wealthy and corrupt, sharing their spoils with the deserving rather than stealing for personal gain.
The opposite was true. They were horrible fuckers who didn't really give a shit who got in the way and would have happily stolen bread from starving orphans if it suited their purposes.
"Robin of the Hoode" sounds so contemporary. Robin from tha 'hood.

And yeah, Robing Hood kind of criminals are the exception that prove the rule - we love them because we wish they were all like that, but they're really not.
 
Have a look at the retards who got caught up in the EncroChat sting. Mostly low to midlevel gangsters who had operations over most of Western Europe.

The media only talk about them once they’re safely in prison and have lost their power.
Or do they only talk about them when they're in prison because that would be after the trial and then they can't be prosecuted for contempt of court ?
As much as I am not a fan of journalists, I very much doubt even they would want to be held responsible for the mistrial of a person accused of horrific crimes and evading justice.....if for no other reason than the reputational risk to them and their media outlet.
 
Is there even a British mafia anymore? I fully expect every native gang has been wiped out completely by the cops and foreign intervention.
No. Though I don't doubt there are natives involved in organised crime, they seen to frequently have some sort of ethnic element in the mix.

You could argue the drill/London postcode gang scene is a "British Mafia", but again a large part of the membership are still first/second generation migrants and they tend to orbit more around theft and dealing on behalf of something else.
 
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Is there even a British mafia anymore? I fully expect every native gang has been wiped out completely by the cops and foreign intervention.
There are yeah, usually older guys who are leftovers from the 70's/80's/90's. The Adams family are still active in London along with some of the older East End types. There is also the Sayers in Newcastle, i don't know if they are still as big as they used to be, but when i lived in that neck of the woods everyone would say they still ran the place. The British gangs tend to be a bit smarter with their crime, especially the older ones.. they aren't running around stabbing each other in the streets and posting drug caches on Snapchat.

Both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland have quite a lot of active gangs, the Kinahans probably being the most well known and notorious.
 
I heard something about Eastern Europeans trying to get in on the drug business in Glasgow but the native families chased them out. Don't quote me on it though
There are business links now, and there weren't those links fifteen years ago. Times change. The Eastern Europeans move the stuff so far and then the local distribution operation does the rest.

These are very serious characters and a profitable arrangement was better for all parties. Obviously the issue in Glasgow and surroundings is that it's not just drugs getting moved, but a serious amount of weapons, so in all honesty the coppers do not want to get too closely involved with that shit as long as it is kept away from the civilians.

To be fair it is very largely kept away from the civilians. You know people, of course; I know quite a number of people and grew up alongside them. I was always clearly understood to be a civilian then and now and I've never had any trouble. I see these people and their mums, that kind of thing, you ask after each other's weans.

People say, oh its a very violent city, but it's a violent place if your business is violence. If your business is just normal civilian shit, you generally don't have any trouble. People with more influence also don't like trouble around where they live, so if you live where those people live, street crime and burglary and stuff very much doesn't happen.

If somebody gets shot here, everyone knows they were in business, and everyone knows that business isn't their business and to keep their noses out of it.
 
The actual “Robin Hood” was probably just a bandit and outlaw whom ended up with tall tales around him.
Near as I can tell, the "Actual" Robin Hood seems to have been a country squire from Southern England called William of Cassingham who raised an ad-hoc force of bandits to repel a French invasion that landed in Kent during the first Barons war; they harried them all the way back to the coast with guerilla attacks.
 
I heard something about Eastern Europeans trying to get in on the drug business in Glasgow but the native families chased them out. Don't quote me on it though
That was simply them being frightened off by Glaswegian drunks stumbling up to them, vomiting, asking for change and cigarettes, hugging them and declaring them their best mates, then offering them out for fights and taking stumbling pathetic lunges at them.

In seriousness, Glasgow has always been a tough bitter city.
The kinds of jock fuckers who crawled out of the crab bucket to be top dogs in the illegal drug market are not going to let some newcomers waltz in and take it. They will have originated as dirt poor estate kids and not taken shit from anyone.
They even had a literal war over Ice Cream van patches. Granted the Ice Cream vans were the fronts for mobile dealers, but that kind of craziness is unheard of in the rest of mainland Britain.

Glaswegians are a breed apart.

Near as I can tell, the "Actual" Robin Hood seems to have been a country squire from Southern England called William of Cassingham who raised an ad-hoc force of bandits to repel a French invasion that landed in Kent during the first Barons war; they harried them all the way back to the coast with guerilla attacks.

There are many candidates because a lot of the tales and legends got blurred.
King Arthur is similar in this way because there were a few "dark age" kings or tribal chiefs and Romano-British holdouts who are candidates.
The candidates often fought at battles which have been theorized as battles Arthur was supposed to have fought, plus one or two of them had a famous sword, or were known for swordplay which may be the basis for Excalibur.
While shit like Lancelot are likely later additions inspired by French chivalry and the Lady of the Lake and Merlin are probably pre existing legends from Celtic cultures, the mish mash of Dark Age battles and fragmentary evidence hint at different figures but an overall folk hero of Arthur, king of the Britons.

Not heard this William of Cassingham before though, so I will check it out. Thanks.

If somebody gets shot here, everyone knows they were in business, and everyone knows that business isn't their business and to keep their noses out of it.

My time in Nottingham, that was literally the same culture and "code of honour" around the dealers and gangs there.
Guns were a problem to the point that it became the first city on mainland Britain to have armed police routinely patrolling, but civilians rarely to the point of never actually got shot.

A year or so after I moved out, a bunch of people at work in London were appalled at some teenage girl getting shot at Nottingham's Goose Fair.
They all rounded on me angrily at pointing out that the girl was probably involved.

Over the next few days it dropped off the tabloid covers, as it transpired that the girl was indeed the girlfriend of a key gang member and turned out to have been the money holder for the nights drug business. Hence why a rival gang had targeted and shot her.
 
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Near as I can tell, the "Actual" Robin Hood seems to have been a country squire from Southern England called William of Cassingham who raised an ad-hoc force of bandits to repel a French invasion that landed in Kent during the first Barons war; they harried them all the way back to the coast with guerilla attacks.

Might also have been inspired by a lesser known rebel named Hereward the Wake who was a Anglo-saxon rebel that waged a guerilla war against the Normans
 
Might also have been inspired by a lesser known rebel named Hereward the Wake who was a Anglo-saxon rebel that waged a guerilla war against the Normans
When the lead of the Robin of Sherwood TV series was recast to Jason Scott Connery, that particular character, Robert of Huntington, was conceivably more inspired by Hereward the Wake.

But other than that, I don’t know how much Hereward really influenced the Robin Hood myth.

For context for those unfamiliar, the first Robin of Sherwood, played by Micheal Praed, was Robin of Loxley. It’s never expressly said that he is Saxon, so there is some potential that he may have even been a Briton/Celt.
The story had this version of Robin Hood being “Herne’s Son”. Herne the Hunter is an ancient British legendary figure, supposedly a continuation of the Celtic god Cernunnos into folklore and British tradition.

Jason Connery, who is the son of Sean Connery, was cast as Robert of Huntington, a Saxon noble who takes it upon himself to fill the role of “Herne’s son” after the death of Robin of Loxley.

Interestingly this show was one of famed TV critic, spoilsport and prude, Mary Whitehouse’s most hated.
While on the surface, its family targeted mild violence and complete lack of nudity seemed to be perfectly innocent and not something Whitehouse would find objectionable.
It was in fact the featuring of Pagan and heathen religions and practices which really got on her tits.

Richard O’Brien of The Rocky Horror Picture Show appears a few times as a mysterious demonic magician wielding powers of Ragnarök and even Kabbalah as he creates a golem of the second Robin.

Anyway! Sorry for the digression in this thread!

Ironically more than ever, perhaps England and Britain need the return of Robin Hood and King Arthur!

They both are mythically bound to return if the land is ever in peril.
 
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Tommy Robinson charged under Terrorism Act before far-right march in London

Met says it expects ‘busy day’ on Saturday as Stand Up to Racism and Chris Kaba rallies also planned


The far-right leader Tommy Robinson has been charged under the Terrorism Act and is being held in custody before a planned march of his supporters amid fears of a repeat of violence that erupted when he was imprisoned in 2018.
Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, handed himself in to Folkestone police station on Friday afternoon where he was charged with failing to provide the pin to his mobile phone under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He was bailed to appear in court next month, Kent police said. He was then remanded in custody under a high court direction, the force said.

In July Robinson allegedly refused to give police access to his mobile phone when he was stopped under the Terrorism Act at the Channel tunnel. He had been bailed subject to returning to Folkestone police station.
Tommy Robinson outside Folkestone police station speaking to the press on Friday 25 October.
He is also due to appear at Woolwich crown court on Monday on separate charges of contempt of court for repeating libellous allegations against a Syrian refugee. Robinson’s supporters, who now control his X account, told his 1 million followers on the platform that he was being held on remand until Monday’s court appearance.
The Metropolitan police have said they expect a “busy day” on Saturday as Robinson’s supporters plan to march from Victoria to Whitehall under the banner “Uniting the Kingdom”, while a Stand Up to Racism counter protest is also planned. The United Families and Friends Campaign is planning a protest in Trafalgar Square against the acquittal this week of the firearms officer who shot dead Chris Kaba.
The anti-fascist campaign Hope Not Hate predicted the planned far-right demonstration on Saturday would morph into a protest demanding Robinson’s freedom. It also fears a repeat of June 2018 when five police officers were injured during clashes with Robinson’s supporters.
Speaking at a briefing before Robinson’s charge had been confirmed, Joe Mulhall, Hope Not Hate’s director of research, said: “If we look at what happened in 2018 when he was previously imprisoned it actually galvanised the Free Tommy movement, which saw the largest demonstrations we’d seen in a very long time outside parliament. And they were very, very angry and confrontational. There were scenes of people throwing bottles at Downing Street and the like. I think Lennon is anticipating that will happen again. His whole thing is that he’s a martyr going down for free speech.”
Before arriving at Folkestone police station in a black Nissan Elgrand, Robinson was asked on X by a journalist about the claim that he expected to be regarded as a free speech martyr. Robinson responded by posting a screengrab of the questions and calling the journalist a “fake news wanker” and adding: “Write whatever you want no 1 gives a fuck any more. We are the media.”
Hope Not Hate said it expected the demonstration to be larger than a gathering of Robinson’s supporters in July when about 30,000 people protested against immigration.
Nick Lowles, the group’s chief executive, said: “I think it’s going to be a lot angrier, regardless of whether Lennon is there or not. This one is very much aimed at the prime minister, the police, and this sense of injustice around the riots. My understanding is the police are quite concerned about the public order element.
“The chatter in the football hooligan WhatsApp groups is that they are coming in quite big numbers. And given that many of the people who will be there have a kind of liking for violence or disorder, I can understand why the police are worried.”
The Met said there would be “significant policing presence” in central London on Saturday to ensure the two rival demonstrations are kept apart. It has also imposed conditions under the Public Order Act about timings and locations of the rival demonstrations “to prevent serious disruption or disorder”.
The deputy assistant commissioner Rachel Williams, who is leading the operation, said: “We are well prepared for what is set to be a busy day in the centre of London.
“Our role is to ensure that those attending the various events can do so safely and that they can exercise their right to lawful protest. We will have significant resources in place to respond to any incidents, to deal decisively with any offences, and to keep disruption to other members of the public and businesses to a minimum.
“We know that when groups with opposing views come together it can lead to conflict and disorder and a key part of our role is ensuring that does not happen.”

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Bets on whether or not he gets the HRC treatment or a Paki gets him.
 
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