Do You Hate Google With Every Fibre of Your Being?

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I hate how I have to use a Google account for Android. I know you can skip the Google sign in when you set up the phone, but then you get endless popups prompting you to use your Google account.
I'm tempted to root or use another distro for my phone, but there aren't any common ROMs for the Sony Xperia 1IV.
 
ForkyMeetsPorky said:
I'm tempted to root or use another distro for my phone
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UAD (universal android debloater) could potentially help you get rid of packages that require jewgle accounts/are tied to it which trigger said prompts alongside ADB, which that github repo link provides instructions on how to install
 
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I have been slowly getting away from them for the last year or so. Its a pain, but that is life.
 
Spill said:
Who in the fuck still uses Google? the search results are unbelievably manipulated, and at this point its basically a useless search engine if you're trying to get answers on a subject a commie might deem "controversial"/political, and now this shit? you know its only going to get worse, in a few years time you'll have to sit through 30 minutes of ads and complete 45 surveys before you can view your search results, and then if you've searched more than 5 things this week you'll have to pay a fee if you want to search anything else.

The only people that should still be using Google are normies with absolutely no internet literacy whatsoever, the type of person that doesn't even know their favorite social media platform is a website not just a mobile app, because mainstream corporations and governments can abuse a person like that as severely as they like and the normie will bend over, take it, and beg for more of the same.

If your average person wasn't as dumb as fuck, I don't think Google would be able to exist.
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I was going to comment on exactly this but unfortunately I am compelled to have the opposite opinion. DuckDuckGo and Yandex are good for things like pirated movies and reverse image searching porn but Google still seems to be #1 for troubleshooting code and other technical matters. I get the Google hate but it remains my default unless I know I'm going to be hit with a bunch of results scrubbed by DMCA claims etc.
 
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I sometimes make up stories about google to people. I once told a guy I was chatting to in the pub that Google killed loads of tribes people in the amazon. Google was after some rare earth material (I made a name up, something like "Nicadium" or whatever) and the tribe lived on the land and had done for 1000s of years. So google sent in some dynacor or blackwater types, killed them all and plonked them in a big corpse pit away from the site. Now the factory can run 24/7 pumping poison into the local water table. So him buying a google branded phone was supporting that.
 
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ForkyMeetsPorky said:
I hate how I have to use a Google account for Android. I know you can skip the Google sign in when you set up the phone, but then you get endless popups prompting you to use your Google account.
I'm tempted to root or use another distro for my phone, but there aren't any common ROMs for the Sony Xperia 1IV.
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With these kind of things, you sadly have to choose your device with software compatibility in mind. LineageOS has a list of supported hardware here: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
 
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ParasiteSteve said:
I sometimes make up stories about google to people. I once told a guy I was chatting to in the pub that Google killed loads of tribes people in the amazon. Google was after some rare earth material (I made a name up, something like "Nicadium" or whatever) and the tribe lived on the land and had done for 1000s of years. So google sent in some dynacor or blackwater types, killed them all and plonked them in a big corpse pit away from the site. Now the factory can run 24/7 pumping poison into the local water table. So him buying a google branded phone was supporting that.
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Pretty sure you got Neste and Google mixed up there, bud!
 
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CoffeeCup said:
I have been slowly getting away from them for the last year or so. Its a pain, but that is life.
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Same. I plan on moving over to Proton for email later this year which is a significant hurdle. Not only have I been using Gmail for decades at this point but I've still got keep my account for things like Google Calendar because that's what my friends and family use. Also Google Maps is still the best navigation option when driving. I used to really like Google back in the Nexus phone days. But now they are total scum.
 
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As mentioned in other threads, YT has been trying to block Invidious instances from working. There used to be dozens of Invidious instances which worked good. Even KF had an Invidious instance. Then the advertisers at YT (I call YT staff that) really started wanting people to see the ads -- especially the pro-Democrat ones with an election coming up -- so playback of vids on Invidious instances got blocked with BS error messages like "This helps protect our community.", "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot.", "This content isn't available.", etc. Or Invidious instances would just get "502 Bad Gateway" errors or the like and stop working entirely. Now it looks like there's just 2 instances up that aren't getting 502'd, and on one vids are getting blocked with error messages. Shouldn't be surprised if the Invidious project is abandoned entirely soon.

Oh yeah, and the only other alternative I know of to going to the YT crapsite itself -- using youtube.com/embed/[vid code] -- is less of an option as more and more videos are being blocked from playback in embeds with that stupid "Video unavailable Watch on YouTube" BS.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Oh yeah, and the only other alternative I know of to going to the YT crapsite itself -- using youtube.com/embed/[vid code] -- is less of an option as more and more videos are being blocked from playback in embeds with that stupid "Video unavailable Watch on YouTube" BS.
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Just use Invidious for browsing YouTube and yt-dlp for downloading videos.
 
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One thing I've wondered but never found the answer to is who's actually opposed to adblockers. The obvious answer would be "advertisers", but adblock seems to block the annoying part (the ad) while delivering confirmation the ad was delivered. The advertiser got what they paid for: an ad being aimed and fired at users. There was no guarantee the user wouldn't be prepared for it and avoid/block the ad's content.

A cynical boardroom would take Google's data and go "We paid for advertisements and we can confirm they were delivered to X people in the demographic we were targeting." The user didn't actually sit through thirty seconds of winged tampons with extra padding, but does it matter?
 
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Town Drunk said:
Ad revenue has been dead forever. The fact that companies still cling to this model show that tech is stagnant, and has no idea how to actually make money.

We are far from how it used to work, this show is sponsored by X. Well, I like this show, so let me buy X. Now it's just generic ads for thing you don't care about. Ads are junk mail you are forced to read.

If I am watching something, enjoying it, an ad popping up and disrupting the experience makes me feel anger. Congratulations, my brain now associates your product with anger. Basic psychology, called anchoring.

For every idiot that clicked a pop up, there are 100,000 who now hate whatever that product is for pissing them off.

This doesn't even address the malware these ads use.
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Whether it's on the internet, on tv, or on radio, it seems like advertising has become a festering plague. There's simply too much of it and it's incredibly unfriendly to consumers as they're bombarded with heaping helpings of ever more intrusive ads.

For instance, even people who post the most basic content on YT eventually become slaves to the algorithm as they desperately try to get monetized. Once they're monetized, they say and do stuff that comes off as phony starting with the ridiculous video thumbnails where they make absurd faces or use gigantic text to grab your attention. They'll often use misleading taglines (clickbait) for things like basic news stories. It's overkill but there's no cure for it because they're all competing for ad dollars or euros or pesos or whatever.
 
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Quence said:
Whether it's on the internet, on tv, or on radio, it seems like advertising has become a festering plague. There's simply too much of it and it's incredibly unfriendly to consumers as they're bombarded with heaping helpings of ever more intrusive ads.

For instance, even people who post the most basic content on YT eventually become slaves to the algorithm as they desperately try to get monetized. Once they're monetized, they say and do stuff that comes off as phony starting with the ridiculous video thumbnails where they make absurd faces or use gigantic text to grab your attention. They'll often use misleading taglines (clickbait) for things like basic news stories. It's overkill but there's no cure for it because they're all competing for ad dollars or euros or pesos or whatever.
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the funny thing about "turn of that pesky adblock" people, is they will admit they make fuck all. 100K views on your video equals less than 100 dollars.

So you can sell your soul, make soy faces, censor, and hope for the scraps, or open memberships/patreon.

I watch streamers, and there is one thing twitch is doing right

Throw 7 bucks a month at them, Twitch gets a cut, and you don't get 2 minutes of ads every fifteen minutes. They are showing that direct suport of content creators is worth more than ad revenue at a corperate level.
 
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the funny thing about "turn of that pesky adblock" people, is they will admit they make fuck all. 100K views on your video equals less than 100 dollars.
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They all dream of making it to the 1 million subscribers level despite the fact that exceedingly few of them have truly original and interesting content. The ones who do reaction videos (the low hanging fruit on YT) all push their patreon options There must be people out there with absolutely no social lives if they’re willing to watch someone else watch a movie for 2 hours that they’ve already seen.

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I watch streamers, and there is one thing twitch is doing right

Throw 7 bucks a month at them, Twitch gets a cut, and you don't get 2 minutes of ads every fifteen minutes. They are showing that direct suport of content creators is worth more than ad revenue at a corperate level.
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Does Twitch offer a bundling option such as watch up to 10 streamers per month for the price of 7 streamers?
 
Nitro! said:
I personally have been exposed to the security, privacy and energy use nightmare that is Google Tag Manager, so yes, I want all Google employees to be drawn, quartered and televised for international amusement. The V3 manifest making it impossible to block ads and only hide them strengthens my resolve to ride on one of the horses myself.
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On my permanent block list along with all the other trash.
 
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