I agree but it only goes so far. If you repeat lies, you're a liar too. Just following orders is no excuse. The other three Bloshinsky kids have been adults for nearly a decade each.
They are adults now, so they can be held responsible for the things they did, but they didn't become something, they were born into it. Most people are not prepared in any way to shake this off so easily, and they have no motivation to believe they need to shake it off.
Both sides of this argument are correct, however it ultimately comes down to personal responsibility. I am reminded of how the Apostle Paul spoke of himself as "the Chief among Sinners" for his role in the persecution and murder of Christians when he was acting as a Pharisee prosecutor. He said he obtained mercy because he did not realise he was doing wrong; by Pharisaical law he was doing the right thing.
So, ultimately, Paul was doing the wrong thing, was shown the error of his ways, repented and asked forgiveness, then spent his entire life telling people that he'd been wrong. In other words, Paul took responsibility for his actions.
Both sides of this argument are correct, however it ultimately comes down to personal responsibility. I am reminded of how the Apostle Paul spoke of himself as "the Chief among Sinners" for his role in the persecution and murder of Christians when he was acting as a Pharisee prosecutor. He said he obtained mercy because he did not realise he was doing wrong; by Pharisaical law he was doing the right thing.
So, ultimately, Paul was doing the wrong thing, was shown the error of his ways, repented and asked forgiveness, then spent his entire life telling people that he'd been wrong. In other words, Paul took responsibility for his actions.
Yeah, but Jesus showed himself up to Paul. He didn't just come on his own to the conclusion that he was doing wrong. That would snap anyone out of their lack of faith.
There is nothing that, up until this moment, has given the Jennings enough reason to disbelieve the trans ideas they've been fed since kids. They all knew the surgery could fail as any other experimental surgery would, but it was needed and it was done. Jazz has a vagina that makes him a girl, so that's exactly what they all expected. Jazz was depressed and fat and he got help and now he's in college pretending to be learning something and living his life. So, nothing has, for them, gone out of the plan. Those detransitioning people are exceptions and they don't represent trans people at all. As long as they keep giving Jazz enough pills and crayons to play, he's gonna convince himself that he's happy and so will the rest of the family.
Remember the Jennings are very basic. They are below normies. Normies, you can explain them things and some of them will frown and reconsider their views. The Jennings are the kind of people who would follow anything that's trendy and popular: tiktok, celebrities, memes, fashion, whatever. Greg was sceptical and was forced out of it, but the rest of the family sheepishly convince themselves of the things they want to believe. Look at Sander believing that social media is real life. Until Jazz tries to kill himself realising he's never gonna have an orgasm ever, they are not gonna change their minds about it, and even so, they will first try to shame Jazz into feeling guilty just like they did when he got very fat.
It isn't only that the Jennings don't want to be wrong or don't want to take personal responsibility in a way that would leave them humbled. It isn't just pride, some relationships, and some income streams being threatened. Their entire family would be torn apart. Their core concepts of themselves and one another, their social support system and worldviews would collapse. What their mother has done, what they have all supported, what it would mean to face the truth: it's enough to send people into mental breakdowns. It's way more than saying "I was wrong, and I'm sorry." It would be a nuclear shitshow.
For the record, I don't have pity for any of them (except Jazz). I think those things ^ should happen. I'm just pointing out why they wont. Very few people have the character to withstand what is basically an existential hurricane. The Jennings have no spines at all. They would ALL have to back flipping the script 100%, just like with an intervention. Because if someone spoke the truth, the first person to offer an easier, less disruptive narrative is the one that would "win." This is what happens so often in families with things like molestation and addiction.
This family ranges from spineless to evil. Nobody will admit to anything until the grandparents and parents are dead and it's all ancient history. Jazz is not strong enough and Samber will commit suicide before the family owns up to what they've all taken part in.
One thing that would make it much more likely would be if they all had a decent unifying moral guide and identity and community. (Like the one that guy Paul ended up a part of.) The first Jennings to sincerely convert from "nominal Jew" to Christian would probably reject the accepted narrative.
So, ultimately, Paul was doing the wrong thing, was shown the error of his ways, repented and asked forgiveness, then spent his entire life telling people that he'd been wrong. In other words, Paul took responsibility for his actions.
Yeah, but Jesus showed himself up to Paul. He didn't just come on his own to the conclusion that he was doing wrong. That would snap anyone out of their lack of faith.
I imagine that Paul was having serious second thoughts when he saw firsthand the suffering he was causing to innocent people, Jesus showing up to him only confirmed those nagging doubts, but I digress.
Sure. I am sure that there can be a change of heart for the Jennings in which they can discuss how they became such believers and now they want to help others to not fall into the same trap of believing trans kids are normal and brave and all that shit. Either because they truly changed or because the pendulum has moved right and now they are jumping into a new trend to follow. If being detrans was something that is making people super famous and important, at least Jeanette would be convincing Jazz to go back to be a boy.
I imagine that Paul was having serious second thoughts when he saw firsthand the suffering he was causing to innocent people, Jesus showing up to him only confirmed those nagging doubts, but I digress.
The Jennings are not seeing any of that "suffering". Jazz is just being ungrateful and not working hard enough to be happy. They absolutely blamed him for being "fat", not remotely considering that all the pills he takes were affecting his metabolism or that he was just too depressed with all those changes. It's his fault for not embracing that "omg super positive!!!" attitude Sander has, and they also thought they could fix it as well with "embrace positivity".
The only way in which they could change their minds is if Jazz says "I am unhappy being trans, I am in fact a man". I really think they would be supportive of him because their default is not being negative and they would find a way to do so without blaming themselves and escape responsibility... but it's never happening because every single thing they do is something they do to avoid this situation. They MUST make Jazz happy, by any means necessary otherwise their whole world falls apart. It's not just because they are forcing this into Jazz, it's also a defence mechanism just as @pink cigarettes said above, but I don't necessarily blame the other three children because this was also forced upon them since they were kids too.
This is a whole discussion to have, but if you were raised to believe the sun is blue, nothing will convince you otherwise because that's been in your brain as a basic fact of life.
I dont think any of them even believe in a God, which would be necessary if any were to convert to a new religion. They really only stick with "Jewish" for the pre-bulit community they can be a part of. If they had an ethnicity from the parents immigrating, they'd stick to that instead, because all of them are too retarded to make friends or connections using their brains and personalities.
I really doubt it. The much more likely outcome would be them telling him he was a victim of transphobic propaganda and that he was suffering from internalised transphobia. Those people have bought so far into their own lies that they'll never get out, and they won't let him go either. Crabs in a bucket.
Whether someone is doing evil through malice or ignorance the results are the same.
Atrocities are no less evil when done by well meaning people. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
Thinking you're doing the right thing while campaigning for access to peoples children so they can be chemically neutered, castrated, and mutilated doesn't make you any less of an asshole. It just means you're a stupid asshole.
A person should research what they support, especially when the thing they support involves decisions that permanently affect and alter the lives of children.
Because its not just Jazz.
The shit Griffen campaigns for could directly affect the lives of thousands of children.
When you're supporting something that has that level of consequence you have a duty to do your research and fully understand the pros and cons of what you are proposing.
The evidence against the gender cult and the results of their surgeries are damning.
Griffens own brothers amhole fucking exploded on camera while they were filming, Jazz had repeated and multiple problems with his 'ditch, caused according to his own surgeons by putting him on puberty blockers leaving him with a micropenis and nothing to work with to make the 'ditch, and Jess Ting and Marc Bowers have basically admitted Jazz is a failed experiment.
Bowers changed his mind about SRS so far after what happened to Jazz he now recommends Troons don't get amholes at all and just get Vulvaplasties with no depth.
Jazz by his own admisssion has never and will never have an orgasm, and is stunted and unable to feel adult sexual attraction, and seems to be mentally stunted after the puberty blockers too, a lowering of iQ as a result is just one of a host of documented drawbacks to interfering in natural development. These are all things with peer reviewed documented examples in medical literature.
These are all adverse affects Griffen has seen in his own brother as a result of the gender Cult.
If people like Griffen have researched this shit and know the truth and still support it he's a monster.
If he doesn't bother to research what he advocates for and supports it anyway he's ignorant.
Either way he's not a good person.
They are adults now, so they can be held responsible for the things they did, but they didn't become something, they were born into it. Most people are not prepared in any way to shake this off so easily, and they have no motivation to believe they need to shake it off. Why? If Jazz is healthy and happy now. Look at her in college and thin. Why would they think something about Jazz went "wrong"?
"The sun is yellow and our little brother was chemically castrated as a boy and we were unknowing participants in his televised, life-long abuse." I'd believe the sun is blue just to avoid losing my mind with guilt.
Poor Jazz. He's really getting that Ozempic face.
Is it just me or is it making his teeth stand out like a 3 day old corpse left out in the desert?
Just seems to be sucking all the life out of his face too.
Jazz's grandparents on Dee's side of the family are just the standard-bearers of two people getting together to just completely decimate a gene pool for generations to come. Just had zero interest in creating any good looking offspring.
Jazz's grandparents on Dee's side of the family are just the standard-bearers of two people getting together to just completely decimate a gene pool for generations to come. Just had zero interest in creating any good looking offspring.
Ehh, grandpa Barie (maternal grandfather) looks OK to me. He was certainly never an Adonis, but in his younger days he would not have stood out in a crowd as being particularly hideous, either. The ugg genes clearly came from grandma Derp-Eye. I can't see any of her father in Jeannette's features. I can see her mother (Jeannette is basically a bigger, uglier version of her) but there seems to be additional ugg that can't be explained by her genealogy. She looks so much like a cartoon witch that it's just uncanny.
Greg together with an average or above average woman could have created some fairly good-looking offspring.
Poor Jazz. He's really getting that Ozempic face.
Is it just me or is it making his teeth stand out like a 3 day old corpse left out in the desert?
Just seems to be sucking all the life out of his face too.
Greg is too good looking for this family. The worst part is that his boys at least do look like him. It's a tragedy like how the Willis-Moore kids have the features of their highly attractive parents, but all badly put together.
Greg is too good looking for this family. The worst part is that his boys at least do look like him. It's a tragedy like how the Willis-Moore kids have the features of their highly attractive parents, but all badly put together.
Ari is reasonably good-looking in that young, healthy, good bone structure kind of way.
Jazz would have been a cute boy. He's not hideous as a girl, but there's something "off."
Sander and Griffin would be better looking if they projected intelligence. They both look like speds, like they have an uneven number of chromosomes. Sander in particular looks like he douches with soy milk.
No knock on people who find that a positive mental attitude gets them through their day, but with Sander, it seems so desperate and so immature. Like for him "positivity" is not the anchor keeping him moored away from the shoals of despair, it's the boat and it's constantly in danger of getting swamped.