Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Oliver Onions]

i remember origin was trying to save the world from some monsters from hell and now is legit about being a troon? just what the fuck is going over there

I guess the monsters from hell won and are now walking the earth claiming to be non-binary?

OT: My only experience with Bioware games is Anthem, but are they always this badly written? I watched Skill Up's video and even ignoring all the overtly pro-tranny shit, the base writing sounds like the worst Joss Whedon fanfic. All the dialogue examples I heard were on par with Forspoken, I await confirmation for how many times a character says 'so...that just happened'.

 

[Megatardingo]

You guys think the trannies in veilguard sometimes get the blight after transitioning and they kill themselves?

 

[mikebrown]

This is Saints Row 2022 all over again on crack + steroids essentially. Same retards running damage control on social media, insisting the sales are good and the company is fine. Same retards claiming the feces they're eating are actually really tasty and you should have some too. Same exact arguments consisting of "um you never understood what X series was about from the start!" Or, "Uh, I bet you've never played any of X series anyway and we don't need YOU anymore."

Hopefully this will inevitably end the same way the Saints Row reboot did, the company going under and hopefully some troons offing themselves in the aftermath. Heartless? Perhaps, but at this point, I'm so tired of this shit basically repeating itself with game series I like every year I vie for the worst outcome.

 

[strawberry15]

I guess the monsters from hell won and are now walking the earth claiming to be non-binary?

OT: My only experience with Bioware games is Anthem, but are they always this badly written? I watched Skill Up's video and even ignoring all the overtly pro-tranny shit, the base writing sounds like the worst Joss Whedon fanfic. All the dialogue examples I heard were on par with Forspoken, I await confirmation for how many times a character says 'so...that just happened'.

Depends,
Baldur's Gate triology(1-2-ToB) Has great writing.Companion Quests and character development is great, main story is great, side quests are great. When you look from the end of Throne of Bhaal to the begining of BG1, you feel great, content.
Neverwinter Nights is shit. It had good quests in it but because they were working with WotC who wanted to show off 3rd edition, they were limited.
Kotor again is a great Star Wars story. Biowere solidifies the concept of main character after this. You were nothing but through wit and prowess you become something. But it is not just you were capabale and you were in the right place, you are actually central to the plot in ways you are yet to know type of characters.
Jade Empire again is good, interesting lore but not much stuff going on there
Mass Effect triology starts great but kind of meh in the end. Still the story, CHaracters, Missions, Lore, Setting etc is great.
Dragon Age Origins is a game that is still standing on the top. Nothing came close to it.,
DA2 had its problems,, but i believe the main story was very interesting as a game. Shame they failed at bringing its potential.
SWTOR could have been another dragon age origins. the games story is very big and good, but it was a mediocre mmo in the end

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

I miss him everyday...

 

[Kharash]

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I miss him everyday...

Oh no you see, Sten was just confused why a woman would want to be a warrior instead of identifying as a man and being a warrior as is common among the Qunari. It all makes sense.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Oh no you see, Sten was just confused why a woman would want to be a warrior instead of identifying as a man and being a warrior as is common among the Qunari. It all makes sense.

He makes a point about it.
Qunari are basically Muslisms in that regard: treating wahmen like breeders and nothing more.

 

[SIMIΔN]

You could pirate it and experience the cringe or wait for mods to dewokify it.

'fraid not, even Inquisition lacks any substantial mods due to how difficult the bespoke engine is to work with.

It's no Skyrim or BG3, it's going to fail or pass fail on its own. I'll probably get it if epic offers it as a freebie, but like with "Saints' Row", I'll probably not bother installing it.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

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I miss him everyday...

I still fondly remember back in Origins, when, after having every other companion in the game to regale you with their past and backstory at the drop of the hat (even Jory and Daveth, who were literally dead moments later and thus did not fucking matter at all), asking Sten: "Tell me of your people."

And him simply replying bluntly: "No."

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I still fondly remember back in Origins, when, after having every other companion in the game to regale you with their past and backstory at the drop of the hat (even Jory and Daveth, who were literally dead moments later and thus did not fucking matter at all), asking Sten: "Tell me of your people."

And him simply replying bluntly: "No."

"Why not"
"It's none of your business"
Yeah, Sten was based.

 

[the inconfident]

Reading this thread, all the good memories from DA: O...
I just hope BioWare shuts down. Veilguard is an insult.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

you have the blind normies buying it, the left leaning old bioware fans buying it, the modern audiences buying it, old bioware fans that get tricked into buying it and all these streamers buying it because its how they earn money. then you have all the urinalists lying out their ass and giving 9 and 10s in their review. so it will be interesting to see the sales numbers on this one.

also lets not forget the bunch of pc gamers that are stuck in the early 2000, that buy anything with the name of blizzard, bioware, bethesda, valve on the box.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

I still fondly remember back in Origins, when, after having every other companion in the game to regale you with their past and backstory at the drop of the hat (even Jory and Daveth, who were literally dead moments later and thus did not fucking matter at all), asking Sten: "Tell me of your people."

And him simply replying bluntly: "No."

Sten: No
Warden: Ok
Sten: Thank you
Sten approves: 20+

I knew from that moment we would get along just fine.

"edit" He is also one of the few characters that likes to argue he's world view and likes it when you try to stand up and argue back.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

"Why not"
"It's none of your business"
Yeah, Sten was based.

Sten was genuinely one of the best companions in the game, and I think it was primarily because he was so gruff and standoffish you had to really work to earn his respect and befriend him.

Him and Loghain are two of the most underrated and misunderstood characters in that whole game.

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

"Why not"
"It's none of your business"
Yeah, Sten was based.

Brilliantly, this worked in reverse. You could shoot down his questions and just tell him you didn't need to justify your orders, and he'd accept it.

 

[LazyLizard]

You guys think the trannies in veilguard sometimes get the blight after transitioning and they kill themselves?

they have their own taint, it's called aids, once they join the trannyguard they are destined to die by the aids or end themselves before the aids does

 

[Balr0g]

Found this in my YT recommendations

The dialogue in a role playing game is shit. Good Job Bioware! Can we go back to Dragon Age Origins again? Where I can tell a flirting Morrigan to get a blanket because she is cold? Or where I can tell the human king I killed a human noble in cold blood to see his stunned face? Heck even SWTOR had memorable dialogue and great voice actors (especially the Imperials though I Guess being Evil makes for great one liners)

 

[Weltraumfürst]

My only experience with Bioware games is Anthem, but are they always this badly written?

For a very long time, BioWare games were considered to be the apex of video game writing, and there's a strong case for that to be true. Baldur's Gate is a deep dive into the Forgotten Realms setting, KOTOR is one of the best Star Wars stories, Mass Effect and Dragon Age have some of the greatest world building and characters.

The writing started to have a tumble with DA2, which was rushed and filled with current era wokeness. Inquisition was even worse, but still has some really good stuff. Veilguard is just the lowest point of a rapid downward spiral.

 

[31 Black]

It's just like in real life, troonies can't shut up about being troonies

Adding troons to storytelling is a catch 22:

• The story must stop in order for the troon to explicitly say, "By the way, guiz, I'm actually a troon/poon/whatever, and would prefer you use these pronouns..." thus killing any momentum the story had.
• You never know that the character is a troon/poon/whatever because no attention is drawn to it and they pass well enough (and we all know these people are attention whores who must always feel like the special snowflake in the room).

I realized this when I was reading about Charlie the Unicorn on TV Tropes a few years back. One YMMV section mentioned something about the deuteragonist, Nyx, and how he approached or said something; a reply below agreed, and then followed up with "it's 'they' by the way". Further down or on another page, it's mentioned that Nyx is actually nonbinary and was confirmed to be on FilmCow's Twitter. "Well how the hell was I supposed to know that?" I thought, especially since FilmCow generally has characters talking to each other instead of about each other. And then I remembered how scenes like in Star Trek and other shows had been disrupted by "it's they, actually" followed by 30 seconds of "I don't feel comfortable as a he/she/whatever blehblehbleh".

If a story isn't about being a troon, then there is no organic way to incorporate them into your story.

 

[augment]

Do not buy this game.
Do not even buy this game, even if you intend to mod it into something un-pozzed.
Do not buy it, even if it's ten dollars on sale on Steam.
Do not even pirate this game.

Telling people what to do, how to act and what to think is communist behavior.