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[Xarpho's Return]

There are criticisms to be levelled against the event, to be sure. Elon has been promising self-driving for a long time and has yet to deliver. And the robots were essentially the old Mechanical Turk for the 21st century.

"Just Walk Out" is probably the best example for the 21st century, complete with scamming investors.

And it's funny how some of his criticisms of Elon's robotaxis are also applicable to your public buses, subway systems, trams, etc.
1. "But people can be assholes on a robotaxi!"
Mr. Something asserts that the unsavory behavior of your fellow passengers can make the experience of riding a robotaxi an unpleasant one.
He follows this up with a totally true story about how he witnessed a fight between 2 homeless dudes (a common theme on this thread as a reason why public transit sucks) being broken up by the tram driver.

Yeah, because bad roads totally don't affect buses. And your bus driver is totally gonna refuse service to people who don't wear clean clothes, or on suspicion of them being about to puke (this also contradicts the "common transit W" of "I can be transported while drunk/publicly drinking"). And on subway systems there totally isnt just one driver for, what, i don't know, half a dozen carriages? I further suspect that people who will knowingly commit acts that will lower others' opinions of them will usually also disregard the opinions of others. Which is to say, SOCIAL PRESSURE DOESN'T WORK!

2. "But crime outside the robotaxi!"
Mr. Something asserts that the robotaxi leaves you vulnerable to criminals outside.

Nuking your own arguments for mass transit out of sheer hatred makes a lot of sense as to when it actually comes down to live meetings for bike/transit they either sit and seethe or come off as complete assholes who get laughed out of the room.

 

[Womble of Wimbledon]

Dude he's going to Cairns not Canberra in that screenshot...
If you look at it closer you'll see even the drive is at least 30 hours without stops...

Oh shit, you're right. No idea why I read Canberra instead of Cairns. Never shit post on low sleep I guess....

 

[Another Char Clone]

What are you talking about? They love cruise ships:
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Yeah but I don't want to be living on a cruise ship. Where am I supposed to get a job in one? It doesn't even have an address for buying/shipping chinese crap.

 

[BulkForceFive]

haul 200lb of extra dead weight around on a bike and use the backstraps as a bike seat, I'm not sure why nobody else does this

Spoiler: everything else wrong with this

-Bucks smell. Especially during the rut (this is probably pre rut judging by the time of year) and especially once you open up the organ cavity. Gutting the deer removes some of it, but a lot of the deer stink remains in their hide and won't go away until that's gone.
-They also shed a lot when you handle their carcass. Getting this intimate with one is going to put deer hair and stink in places you can't even imagine.
-The head and front legs being tied to the handlebars can't make steering easy.
-At least I hope the head is secured in some way. Having that thing flopping left to right during the whole ride can't be pleasant.
-Imagine having to straddle a deer's torso just to pedal.
-Maybe this guy is lucky and got a deer only a mile or two from his house, but most people are not so fortunate. Think of having to take a 20 mile ride through dirt trails to get out of the backcountry like this. I can't imagine riding that much further than a mile before getting sick of this charade and putting it on a real vehicle.

I think he's walking next to the bike because he can't pedal it. He would be better off doing what my grandfather did once and bring a wheelbarrow, since his ass is walking either way.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

"Just Walk Out" is probably the best example for the 21st century, complete with scamming investors.

I had totally forgotten about the cashierless store scam. When you look it up on Wikipedia, the most recent examples they provide are from 2022, almost like that shit didn't work and no one bothered in the last couple years, of course Wikipedia hardly mentions how big a failure it was.

 

[quaawaa]

Based teacher embarrasses carfucker in front of the class:


"Your teacher wants to kill you":


"You should slash your teacher's tires":


"Your teacher is inappropriate because she likes cars. I, however, am politically neutral because I tell my class how much cars suck":


You can literally make underwater cars in the game:


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[Xarpho's Return]

Based teacher embarrasses carfucker in front of the class:

You know that's not what actually happened, and I'm sure that by this time the kid is an established sperg that no one really likes.

 

[Free the Pedos]

What are you talking about? They love cruise ships:
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This is like when you have to explain to a kid why you can’t live at Disney world full time and have a sundae for dessert everyday. That’s just for vacations, OK champ?

 

[Xarpho's Return]

An article on bike lanes in cities published by CBC (original source/archive) over the whole Doug Ford/bike lanes thing.

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

Naturally, some idiots only read the headline and republished it to urbanist/leftist rags like Planetizen, with the headline of "Over and Over, Studies Show New Bike Lanes Don't Cause Congestion" but that's not what the article says.

In addition to suggesting induced demand for bicycle lanes (please point to a city where people are cramming up bicycle lanes built in the last 10-15 years), three cherry-picked cities are brought up as brought up as examples.

New York, where a 35% decrease in travel times was reported on one major throughfare with new bike lanes...and even then, a left-hand turn lane was added in the process. It's not like Toronto where bike lanes were just hastily added in old traffic lanes. (Remember, urbanists forget you can do a lot with roads without adding capacity--something Road Guy Rob is well aware of).

Copenhagen, where they don't actually discuss any impact to traffic with bike lanes (or even if bike lanes were at the expense of traffic lanes).

Paris, where they cite that bike use went up from 2018 to 2019 while car use went down between 2010 and 2018. Why the stats discrepancy? The French article (which I couldn't translate directly) mentions that there was a 25% drop in motorcycles and scooters as well during that time.

Then Toronto, where in 2022 the traffic times almost doubled for the segment...

 

[Yamamura]

"we tore down the castle on Disney's main street as it was a symbol of colonialism and replaced it with a a bodega."

"CARS!? In my main street? REEEEEEEE"

 

[Xarpho's Return]

they really do think theme parks are a blueprint for city construction huh

What would a theme park as designed by an urbanist look like?

- Definitely no parking lot for the park, you'll have to get there by exclusively public transportation or bicycles
- All food served by their appropriate ethnicity--tacos and churros are to be served by "brown" people, all Asian food served by Chinese people (even if it's sushi), everything else served by black people because white people co-opted their food from black people somehow (I haven't read an article explicitly saying that hamburgers were made by enslaved people but that's the type of things they'd write)
- Rides, maybe
- A daily song-and-dance revue about how "Big Oil" built freeways

 

[quaawaa]

Urbanists in /r/europe blame the floods in Spain on cars:

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By the way, this is what "car centric" Valencia looks like:


Ironically, if the city was designed like a car-centric American suburb, it would have a lot more permeable spaces where people live.

With the exception of the linear park running where the Turia river used to flow, there's almost no green space in the entire city.

The rest of the thread isn't much better, blaming the floods on people not voting for pro-climate politicians:




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Surprisingly, the comments on /r/fuckcars are better:


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Also, for all of those morons who said that Flordia should use high speed trains to evacuate from hurricanes:

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[Apple Porcupine]

Urbanists in /r/europe blame the floods in Spain on cars:

What I've learned from the recent hurricanes and this recent Spain news is that the US is monumentally more prepared than any other nation to deal with natural disasters. Katrina sullied the image for awhile but it's become abundantly clear that not only was that the most extreme case possible, but we learned from it on all phases; infrastructure, emergency staff preparedness and quantity, and yes, getting people evacuated via cars.

It also further pisses me off to hear people like Jason continue to say that US cities are "built wrong", as if a country that allows this to happen purely as a result of water is "built right."

 

[Xarpho's Return]

What I've learned from the recent hurricanes and this recent Spain news is that the US is monumentally more prepared than any other nation to deal with natural disasters. Katrina sullied the image for awhile but it's become abundantly clear that not only was that the most extreme case possible, but we learned from it on all phases; infrastructure, emergency staff preparedness and quantity, and yes, getting people evacuated via cars.

It also further pisses me off to hear people like Jason continue to say that US cities are "built wrong", as if a country that allows this to happen purely as a result of water is "built right."

Curious as to why they didn't bring up the "why not evacuate people via trains" argument when there's a rail station right there....

 

[indomitable snowman]

Based teacher embarrasses carfucker in front of the class:
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"Your teacher wants to kill you":
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"You should slash your teacher's tires":
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"Your teacher is inappropriate because she likes cars. I, however, am politically neutral because I tell my class how much cars suck":
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You can literally make underwater cars in the game:
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reminder subnautica devs are cucks who virtue signaled about removing guns from the game because muh school shootings.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

reminder subnautica devs are cucks who virtue signaled about removing guns from the game because muh school shootings.

And as I sperg about here, they could have easily kept quiet about that and claimed it was only for gameplay purposes.

 

[Meriasek]

Valencia, car-centric, people buying big cars? Have they been ever been there? Jeez. It's basically the young, hip, car-less bohemian dream. All mixed use and dense.
But guess what, a coutnry that isn't used to shitloads of rain will get fucked by shitloads of rain when they come.

 

[Markass the Worst]

And it's funny how some of his criticisms of Elon's robotaxis are also applicable to your public buses, subway systems, trams, etc.
1. "But people can be assholes on a robotaxi!"
Mr. Something asserts that the unsavory behavior of your fellow passengers can make the experience of riding a robotaxi an unpleasant one.

You would think he would come up with an argument that couldn't be immediately be used against mass transit. I'm astonished. My expectations were low and I'm still disappointed

Also, for all of those morons who said that Flordia should use high speed trains to evacuate from hurricanes:

Curious as to why they didn't bring up the "why not evacuate people via trains" argument when there's a rail station right there....

I've asked before and I'll ask again for literally any examples of people evacuating from impending natural disasters via train. I'm still waiting.

If there are no such examples? I'm genuinely wondering why car-hating retards are so obsessed with this idea that hasn't even been done in reality once. It's an astonishing part of their psychology.

 

[who dare wins?]

You're a bit off there lol, 8 hours would barely get you to Sydney, depending where you start in Melbourne, that trip is 2 day minimum by car(and the Hume is packed with trucks and the Stewart into QLD is dangerously congested for the poor condition its in), like 3-3.5 hours by plane if you exclude all the airport shit you have to put up with.

What? I mean I start pretty far from the outskirts of sydney and it takes 8-9 hours just to get to the outskirts of melbourne. I have also done the drive to canberra, usually takes 3 hours. Surprisngly it does take longer to get to goulburn. I usually just take the plane however, the flight between the two at MOST takes 2 hours including taxiing from the gate and to the gate at the destination. Either way, we are a pretty large fuck off country and urbanism can only work on a smaller scale with the major cities. most towns and outback stations could not cope with their retardation.

Why do urbanists try so hard to inconvenience themselves like this?
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Flat out retarded, especially when you consider the fact if you want the railway to actually go to the cities you would need to dip into the great dividing range to said cities and move back out. Unless these morons want to build across the entire coastline and ruin wildlife. That and trains simply are not viable for commercial/people travel. There is a reason air travel is quite common and is especially high demand during things like the holiday season.

 

[teriyakiburns]

What I've learned from the recent hurricanes and this recent Spain news is that the US is monumentally more prepared than any other nation to deal with natural disasters.

This "natural" disaster is entirely man-made. The regional government has spent the last decade removing flood control dams, to restore the "natural environment", and now everyone is acting surprised that the historic (and not in any way unprecedented, or even unusual for the area) norm of intense rain after a period of drought has caused an enormous flood.