Mega Rad Gun Thread

[WelperHelper99]

I had it's semiautomatic cousin.
It was junk.
This MIGHT be slightly more reliable but the two of them basically having the same bones makes me sceptical.
I would avoid.

Makes me truly sad. A pump action rifle clambering full power rounds from a box mag is a cool ass concept. Maybe IF I see it on a used rack at my LGS for $200, just for the novelty. Remington just can't catch a break. At least their ammo has been good for me.

 

[big pauper]

63 year old trapper Bella Twin shot the bear at a distance of 30 feet from a concealed position only when she thought she had too. she shot it in the brain and followed up with several more anchor shots. all the shots easily penetrated the skull and the brain. she was shooting .22 long which is much less powerful than .22 long rifle. .22 long, Long rifle and even .22 short are much more potent than air rifles of comparable class. a standard supersonic .22LR can easily pass through a human torso and exit the other side.

22 short was invented in like 1850 and was popular during the civil war, 22 long was the beefed up version and then 22 long rifle took the beefed up cartridge and put a heavier bullet in it. they were black powder cartridges and by modern standards probably were on par with a high end air rifle... out of a snubnose. out of a longer barrel they weren't that much different from modern bullets. they were selling 22 short and 22 long with smokeless powder by the turn of the century and you occasionally see "NOT FOR SMOKELESS CARTRIDGES" on shitty antique rimfires, anything made within this century is just automatically going to be smokeless. full pressure 22 short out of a rifle length barrel has more energy than a snubnose 32 revolver and that's 'ideal for self defense' or whatever the revolver boomers like to say

i think people read stories about soldiers getting shot like 6 times with a remington model 1 during the civil war and just chinese telephoned that to mean '22 short sucks' when in reality it was black powder 22 short out of a snubnose revolver 170 years ago

 

[Romulus augustulus]

22 short was invented in like 1850 and was popular during the civil war, 22 long was the beefed up version and then 22 long rifle took the beefed up cartridge and put a heavier bullet in it. they were black powder cartridges and by modern standards probably were on par with a high end air rifle... out of a snubnose. out of a longer barrel they weren't that much different from modern bullets. they were selling 22 short and 22 long with smokeless powder by the turn of the century and you occasionally see "NOT FOR SMOKELESS CARTRIDGES" on shitty antique rimfires, anything made within this century is just automatically going to be smokeless. full pressure 22 short out of a rifle length barrel has more energy than a snubnose 32 revolver and that's 'ideal for self defense' or whatever the revolver boomers like to say

i think people read stories about soldiers getting shot like 6 times with a remington model 1 during the civil war and just chinese telephoned that to mean '22 short sucks' when in reality it was black powder 22 short out of a snubnose revolver 170 years ago

I think its mostly down to "biggur boolet betterer". the various .22's are a prover killer of game and men.

I would not say that .32 long is ideal in a snub but .32 H&R mag or .327 fed mag are fantastic alternatives to .38spl and .357 (in a snub). also just inherently very accurate for whatever reason.

 

[Meat Target]

Ruger Wrangler: wouldn't get or recommend. If you want a .22LR pistol look at the Browning Buckmark line, or similar.

Hard disagree. My problem with .22 semi-autos is that, in my experience, the rimmed cartridge causes frequent malfunctions. But that's just my opinion FWIW.

I traded in my Ruger Mk. IV for a Wrangler, and don't regret it.

I also once bought a beater used 10-22 that had a wobbly side-folding stock. Couldn't zero it to save my life, and field-stripping it was an absolute pain in the ass.

Looking back, I could've replaced it with some after-market parts, but I was so sick of the damn thing I didn't wanna pour any more money into it. Unable to find a buyer, I surrendered it to the cops. Yes, it was THAT much of a hunk of shit.

No regrets, only lessons learned.

 

[geckogoy]

10/22 works great IMO but you do need to keep it clean, I'd say with the cruddy federal ammo I've been using probably every 200-300 rounds you'd want to swab down the chamber with a qtip or the like so it extracts/feeds cleanly

field-stripping it was an absolute pain in the ass.

I mean you just take the screw out to take the stock off and it all comes apart??

 

[Meat Target]

I mean you just take the screw out to take the stock off and it all comes apart??

I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm kinda retarded.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Hard disagree. My problem with .22 semi-autos is that, in my experience, the rimmed cartridge causes frequent malfunctions. But that's just my opinion FWIW.

I traded in my Ruger Mk. IV for a Wrangler, and don't regret it.

I also once bought a beater used 10-22 that had a wobbly side-folding stock. Couldn't zero it to save my life, and field-stripping it was an absolute pain in the ass.

Looking back, I could've replaced it with some after-market parts, but I was so sick of the damn thing I didn't wanna pour any more money into it. Unable to find a buyer, I surrendered it to the cops. Yes, it was THAT much of a hunk of shit.

No regrets, only lessons learned.

Oof. The worst part is surrendering it to the cops. Throwing it into a lake would've been better. Or could've parted it out and kept the receiver for a future build.

I had it's semiautomatic cousin.
It was junk.
This MIGHT be slightly more reliable but the two of them basically having the same bones makes me sceptical.
I would avoid.

My buddy has the newer semi-auto Remington 750 in .270. Mags are crap but it seems reasonably reliable, we got a nice black bear with it.

 

[Freedom Fighter]

My problem with .22 semi-autos is that, in my experience, the rimmed cartridge causes frequent malfunctions. But that's just my opinion FWIW.

Interestingly, I've put almost 300 rounds of 22lr through my Marlin 60 without skipping a beat, absolutely perfect.
Same with the 22 pistols I've used, all flawless.

 

[Shopping Cart Nationalist]

What do you guys think of the Remington 7600/760m

Pro tip: Remington manufactures and sells shit. Remington has been doing so to varying degrees for decades. If you buy a Remington, do not trust that any of it was designed, manufactured, or assembled correctly.

My problem with .22 semi-autos is that, in my experience, the rimmed cartridge causes frequent malfunctions.

Honestly, I think you were just having Ruger problems. I have an older 10/22 and it runs great. Recently put a couple hundred rounds through without issues, and it looks like it can just keep on doing so. I cannot attest to more recent manufacture Ruger .22s. Browning Buckmarks are generally pretty good.

 

[big pauper]

Hard disagree. My problem with .22 semi-autos is that, in my experience, the rimmed cartridge causes frequent malfunctions. But that's just my opinion FWIW.

the rimmed cartridge generally isn't the problem when it comes to reliability, its an issue when it comes to magazine capacity but not feeding from a magazine. it's the poor quality control on ammunition and play in the standards for it. it's a small and cheap cartridge that people underspend on, expect way too much out of, and are surprised when it underdelivers. there's plenty of ammo that gets touted as decent quality like Remington golden bullet that has such a weak crimp it flat out won't work in semi autos. people also like to buy buckets of the stuff and are surprised that they're misshapen and fucked up and cause malfunctions. its not like 9mm where two bullets from two brands are probably going to be indistinguishable, with 22 there's a lot of variability on the shape of the nose of the bullet and overall cartridge length that can effect how it feeds.

dont buy buckets of the stuff unless its a super great deal and you're shooting a revolver or single shot gun or something. just buy decent stuff like cci or federal that comes in boxes, its still less than 10 cents per round

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Honestly, I think you were just having Ruger problems. I have an older 10/22 and it runs great. Recently put a couple hundred rounds through without issues, and it looks like it can just keep on doing so. I cannot attest to more recent manufacture Ruger .22s. Browning Buckmarks are generally pretty good.

The only issue I had with factory 10/22 parts is the extractor failing to extract unfired chambered rounds, and that was at least 600-800 rounds in. Ended up throwing a Kidd bolt in it, now no issues. The only stock part there is the receiver, ended up SBR'ing it. Never had mag issues, though. Those mags are solid.

 

[AGPinochet]

Chinese pistol drone


Either an AK-12 Obr. 2018/20 or Civilian TR-3 Rifle with a rare extended "3 hole" hand guard is featured in this staged photo


Suppressed DP with some kind of tubular steel stock


Suppressor by Hexagon Tactical, Aesthetics and Functionality


Integrally suppressed Sub-2000 long before Kel-tec made theirs



Suppressed Browning SA-22, tube fed and downward ejecting


Speaking of SA-22's here's an integrally suppressed one by William Godfrey (who would go on to design the DeLisle carbine)


Integrally suppressed Browning Buckmark carbine


KS-23M, Groza, KS-23K and 9A-91


Imagine having a pistol brace on you Assault Flamethrower


The beginnings of a DIY Cornershot


Apologies for the reddit tier caption





Found something amazing, A British Stoner 63 bullpup conversion. More images are contained below

https://archive.ph/YFOs1

Vektor CR-21


Before we get into the videos
I was reminded of something recently. An absurdly small folding .22 pistol with several unique characteristics
-As mentioned, absurdly small, especially in the width department, as in anorexic thin
-folded in some way
-I believed it used an unconventional magazine type, top loading with the actual bullets pointed skywards
-downward ejecting through the pistol grip
-relatively high mag capacity for the size of gun due to the unique style of magazine, I believe the capacity was 10-12 rounds and I believe the magazines were either transparent or maybe red tinted
-undoubtedly due to all the other characteristics used some kind of unique operating mechanism
-Designed by an older guy
-Was showcased at a trade show within the last 5-7 years I believe.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?

At 33:00 you can see Max Popneker holding an SR-3M with an aftermarket Hexagon Tactical suppressor, the first time I have ever seen such a thing

Russian company Stich Profi has entered the Polymer PKM Belt market alongside Pufgun and Front Tactical

AN-94 with not only a rail in the style that I've posted before, but also an AR style stock

Lastly AS Val meltdown test (it doesn't go well)

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Hard disagree. My problem with .22 semi-autos is that, in my experience, the rimmed cartridge causes frequent malfunctions. But that's just my opinion FWIW.

I traded in my Ruger Mk. IV for a Wrangler, and don't regret it.

I also once bought a beater used 10-22 that had a wobbly side-folding stock. Couldn't zero it to save my life, and field-stripping it was an absolute pain in the ass.

Looking back, I could've replaced it with some after-market parts, but I was so sick of the damn thing I didn't wanna pour any more money into it. Unable to find a buyer, I surrendered it to the cops. Yes, it was THAT much of a hunk of shit.

No regrets, only lessons learned.

I love (and shoot) the shit out of my Mk IV, but I have swapped some parts - the #1 thing you can do to make it damn near dead-nuts reliable is to replace the factory extractor with a Volquartsen part (I linked the bolt tune up kit since it also comes with a firing pin, which is also a nice bit for not much more cash). Once I did that, the FTEs went away and the only malfs are from running it too much between cleanings and the occasional dud round. It's since been dragged through the TandemKross catalog and is my steel challenge gun now.

My 10/22s have all been great, though. They are a bit of a pain to sight in since you can't really bore sight them, but I use one of those multi-caliber laser muzzle inserts to get it on paper and after that, it's just clicks and math.

 

[DocAwe]

it's just clicks and math.

Haaaa, my arch enemies!

 

[S.C.U.D.]

22 long was the beefed up version and then 22 long rifle took the beefed up cartridge and put a heavier bullet in it.

To get nitty gritty autistic about it, .22LR is the bullet from .22 Extra Long (extra obsolete) on the case of .22 Long. It has as good performance as .22 Long out of short barrels but far superior performance out of long barrels, which is why it eventually replaced it. You can still get .22 Long as the cartridge cases are still manufactured in mass quantity being identical to that of .22LR, for older guns that are chambered in .22 Long.

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

I did a bunch of research on .22 pistols before I got in too deep, and the Buckmark seemed like the best option for me. Basically it seems like no matter what, they're shit. The P22 is shitty metal and sucks with no optics, MK series is expensive and shitty trigger, High Standard is expensive with rare expensive nags and no parts, and so on.
I'm not even that happy with my Buckmark as it's heavy as fuck and reliability is shit, even with CCI. The issue is that it's hammer spring setup sucks at transmitting power, so the strikes are quiet light, even with a replacement spring. Hammer is also probably way too light and contributes to that. In my AR-22s I get awesome primer dents with a milspec and Rise 140 trigger, but those are more energy efficient and have hammers with 5x+ the mass.
As far as optics go with the Browning, you CAN get rails or factory options (I got a Tacsol), but it's really not ideal.
Issue with those is that they're barely held to the barrel and have a tremendous amount of flex when you tighten the rear screw. This is a serious issue as the gun will get dirty to a bad point within a few hundred rounds, especially when suppressed, so frequent disassembly is necessary. Basically you'll either have to sight in the gun every time you clean the firing pin channel, and it's very very off each time. When assembling my gun the rail bends down at least 2mm which is a SERIOUS fucking issue. I also was getting kinda shit groups, like 2 inches at 15 yards when benched or in a vise. I was originally blaming this on the chamber that's ready to settle down, but I now believe that the rail is likely to blame as it's attachment post gets slammed every shot and probably moves.
I machined a direct mount barrel clamp thing that my Vortex Crossfire that looks bubba as shit, but I'll soon find out if my barrel is truly wack or not. At least I won't have blow 2 mags of sighting in every couple hundred rounds tho. If accuracy is indeed wack, I'll probably machine myself a barrel with machined in mounts and Bentz chamber it
All that said, the trigger is one of the best out there, tied with the High Standard and Victory I tried at a couple places.

If the P17 weren't made by coke heads with ocean plastic it'd be more interesting, but accuracy is really a thing for me. A G44 or a conversion slide could be interesting, but I hear weird things about them being suppressed, and of course mechanical accuracy and triggers suck nuts.

The High Standard and Victory may be better, but they cost much more and so do the mags. Mags for the Buckmark are $33 on eBay and $25 on FDC, and can be modified to hold 13 if you cut a notch in your frame for the follower.
MK mags are a little cheaper, but the trigger was an issue for me and the Buckmark was much easier for me to get. I figured the barrel would be no better/worse as they're both really just blasting pistols.

I think I'll have to look into either getting or machining a 1911 upper where it has a split slide and I can mount a dot or prism to the barrel. I may have seen this, but it's out of my price range so I'll likely just have to make it myself if I find alright mags. These things could easily be more compact and accurate with less shitty triggers, but they aren't.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

I did a bunch of research on .22 pistols before I got in too deep,

Literally why I bought a .22 revolver

 

[WelperHelper99]

tip: Remington manufactures and sells shit. Remington has been doing so to varying degrees for decades. If you buy a Remington, do not trust that any of it was designed, manufactured, or assembled correctly.

I like their ammo, though now those are two separate companies, the ammo guys and the one that builds the guns. Still, again, if I saw a 7600 at a pawnshop, especially in 30-06 at $200 or less, I'd buy it for the novelty, not because it's good, but because it's interesting. Would be a fun tinker gun to work on if it had issues. And a cheap way to get a 30-06.

I would not say that .32 long is ideal in a snub but .32 H&R mag or .327 fed mag are fantastic alternatives to .38spl and .357 (in a snub). also just inherently very accurate for whatever reason.

But 38 Special is the perfect snubbie round. Has just the right amount of pen and expansion with low recoil with the right loads. The FBI load is still the benchmark. And it's common. It's THE revolver round. Cheap and easy enough to share in a SHTF scenario. Trying to find 32 H&R is expensive. Stores will probably have it in a shortage, but you'll pay up the ass.

Remington golden bullet that has such a weak crimp it flat out won't work in semi autos.

Actually bought some of those. Lol I guess. Guess I'll find out if it works if/when I get a 22lr semi auto.

Chinese pistol drone

Do these pistol drones actually work? I'd imagine they're inaccurate even just shooting 9mm due to being strapped to a plastic quadcopter.

To get nitty gritty autistic about it, .22LR is the bullet from .22 Extra Long (extra obsolete) on the case of .22 Long. It has as good performance as .22 Long out of short barrels but far superior performance out of long barrels, which is why it eventually replaced it. You can still get .22 Long as the cartridge cases are still manufactured in mass quantity being identical to that of .22LR, for older guns that are chambered in .22 Long.

Really good sum up tbh. 22LR's development is really cool and not talked about enough. Been thinking about it more. I kinda want one from RIA since it's so fucking cheap and I can get 25 round mags for it still

Maybe, maybe not, might just be on my wishlist for a while. But it is cheap and basically a mini AR layout. I like that lol.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

I kinda want

stop it

get some help

 

[WelperHelper99]

stop it

get some help

I read that in Filthy Frank even though the quote is that McDonalds commercial. Lol lmao.