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[StarkRavingMad]

It's looking like all the poll watchers and lawyers that the RNC and Trump campaign hired are doing their job.

Amazing how a couple little changes in the RNC make a big difference.

These past two days, we've had big election integrity victories in PA and MI, because folks at the RNC are actually doing their fucking jobs this time.

 

[Vanilla Flavor]

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Democrats start to point fingers even as they hope for Harris win​

by Amie Parnes - 10/31/24 6:00 AM ET

Vice President Harris could win the presidential election next week. But fingers in Democratic circles are already being pointed behind the scenes, in the event that she falls to former President Trump.

While some Democrats say they are increasingly hopeful that Harris will win, others have expressed mounting frustration about a string of factors that have plagued the campaign from the outset.

Fingers are being pointed at Harris and her campaign when it comes to disappointment over her messaging, particularly on the economy.

But some Democrats have already looked to pin the blame on President Biden, who some think took too long to step aside.

“People are nervous and they’re trying to cover their ass and get a little ahead of Election Day,” one Democratic strategist said of the sniping. “It’s based on anxiety, stakes and the unique nature of this cycle.

“We didn’t have a traditional process for this election. We didn’t have a primary. People just had to fall in line,” the strategist added, saying “it’s not surprising to me” that some of the blame game is happening even before Election Day.

If Harris loses, “there will be a mad dash to assign blame,” the strategist added.

The vice president’s decision to pick Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) as her running mate over Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (D) surely will be second-guessed if Trump wins the Keystone State.

“[Harris] is going to look real silly for not picking Shapiro,” one former aide in the Obama White House said.

A Democratic donor agreed: “I’m not sure Walz got her anything. A lot of people I’m talking to say he seems like a great guy. Would I want to have a beer with him? Absolutely. But let’s face it, he wasn’t a great choice.”

Biden put himself squarely in the news cycle on Tuesday evening when he appeared to liken Trump supporters to garbage.

The president walked back the remarks, and the White House insisted they had been taken out of context. Either way, they stepped on a largely successful speech by Harris on the Ellipse in Washington. The speech, which Harris delivered with the White House as a backdrop, was a pivotal moment in the final stretch of the campaign because it represented her closing argument for herself and against Trump.

It is nearly impossible to believe the comments did not greatly irritate the Harris campaign, though the vice president said the issue did not come up when she spoke to Biden on Tuesday night.

“Talk about an unforced error and so close to the end,” one strategist said. “How could anyone not be annoyed by that?”

On Wednesday, Harris was still cleaning up Biden’s comments.

“First of all, he clarified his comments, but let me be clear. I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for,” Harris told reporters as she departed for a three-state campaign swing.

Harris has kept Biden at a distance during the final stretch of the campaign, even as she has appeared alongside surrogates, including former President Obama. The move has irked Biden loyalists who say the president had a successful administration and should be out there — however awkward — to help campaign for his vice president.

“He should be out there,” one loyalist said. “The reason she’s where she is, is because of him.”

But even before Biden’s “garbage” comment, there were whispers he would be responsible for a Harris defeat.

These voices say Biden’s withdrawal from the race in late July didn’t do Harris any favors since she hasn’t had enough time to properly telegraph her biography.

Others said he never should have run for reelection, and that he should have allowed the party to have a full primary to pick his successor.

The unusual part about the quiet finger pointing going on is that Harris could very well be elected the next president next week.

She leads in most national polls and continues to lead in various polls of key swing states. New CNN polling released Wednesday found Harris with a 6-point lead in Wisconsin and a 5-point lead in Michigan. The new polling found the two candidates tied in Pennsylvania.

If Harris wins all three states, she will almost certainly win the election.

“Harris is closing strong with big energy moments and rising momentum,” Democratic strategist Joel Payne said. “She’s the more popular candidate, she has a broader coalition and she’s got a higher ceiling than Trump.

“Democratic anxiety is understandable because of the threat of a Trump second term, but there’s a lot to feel good about related to Kamala Harris and Democrats up and down the ballot coming down the stretch,” Payne added.

At the same time, the race is incredibly close, meaning either candidate has a strong chance of winning and neither side can feel all that certain.

That creates nervousness and paranoia, a perfect atmosphere for second-guessing and backbiting.

There will be second-guessing if Trump loses, too.

The former president has doubled down on caustic speech in a bid to bolster his support among men, which could lose him critical female voters — where Harris enjoys a large lead.

If Harris wins, Republicans will second-guess their decision to ride with Trump through a third presidential cycle. They’ll also wonder why he had to hold that rally on Sunday at Madison Square Garden, where a comedian’s off-color jokes about Latinos and Puerto Rico won negative attention.

“It’s a terrible look for the campaign,” one Republican strategist said. “He should stick to the message and only the message. If we go off of it, he’ll lose.”

Apparently in spite of seemingly being ahead, the Kamala HQ's levels of excitement closely resemble the Führerbunker's. Really makes you think.

 

[Train Operator]

Just how? She's ugly as shit. If being a female was all it took to get money and power, every woman would be a billionaire president.

no, you don't understand. she literally fucked and sucked her way into politics

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Amazing how a couple little changes in the RNC make a big difference.

These past two days, we've had big election integrity victories in PA and MI, because folks at the RNC are actually doing their fucking jobs this time.

Ronna McDaniel has to be seething right about now.

 

[thediad]

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Winter's politics suck arse.

 

[BigJoey41X]

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Fact: numerous systems attempted to try to implement Marxism. They failed, and at best adapted, at worst collapsed. This is as bad an indictment of Marxism as if they actually did implement “true Marxism” and it failed, because orthodox Marxism claims that the revolution is inevitable. That it has failed to manifest in the countries trying to bring it about demonstrates a flaw in the core premises of the system.
Fact: variants of Marxism are still Marxism. A square is a rectangle and a square. Marxist-Leninism is Marxism.
Fact: Meaning is use. “True Marxism” is a nonsense idea that ignores how language works. Read some late Wittgenstein.
Fact: Marxism has numerous theoretical issues that upend the system even if it hasn’t “been tried.” Biggest example is the Labour theory of value, but there are numerous others. Even if the system hasn’t been tried, it can still be wrong.
Fact: there are plenty of people are out there today on the left who claim to be Marxists and advocate for socialism and communism. Consequently, it’s not just a meme ideology, but a real force is American politics and academia today, and that’s why people discuss it.
Fact: ur a faget

I was never defending Marxism, I said in my last statement that Marxism was never actually implemented because it was too impractical to be used IRL, so the Communist leaders tried to make their own take on the whole thing.

Spoiler: It caused a lot of suffering, death, and destitution, 10/10 would probably not try again.

 

[merrybrandybuck]

no, you don't understand. she literally fucked and sucked her way into politics

Who wants fuck and suck from something that looks like it fell out of a jeet ass on a designated street?

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Amazing how a couple little changes in the RNC make a big difference.

These past two days, we've had big election integrity victories in PA and MI, because folks at the RNC are actually doing their fucking jobs this time.

I think I'll have to get started on that drawing for you...

I was never defending Marxism, I said in my last statement that Marxism was never actually implemented because it was too impractical to be used IRL, so the Communist leaders tried to make their own take on the whole thing.

When someone calls themselves a Marxist, you best believe they are telling you the truth.

 

[Jacques1194]

I actually was not confident going into the 2020 election. I had a bad feeling about all of it, and the worst case scenario I had pictured in my head was realized. The article about "The Red Mirage" was the big red flag for me.

Personally, I do not have that bad feeling currently. Granted, the 2020 election will always prevent me from feeling 100% confident ... But I am feeling much better about this election.

I was pretty confident on a Trump victory back in 2016 ... And I'm having similar feelings this time around.

EDIT: Let me put it this way ... I vividly remember telling family members in late 2019 that Trump was destined to win his next election barring some black swan/cosmically disastrous event occurring under his watch. Covid was the Democrats' golden goose for several reasons, and that is exactly why I was pessimistic about 2020.

Tbh my mother seemed less enthusiastic about voting for Trump in 2020 compared to now. She didn't agree with the choices he made with covid and lockdowns. Fast forward to today and (this could be because she has made right leaning friends online) she fully backs Trump. Even in 2016 she agreed with a lot of what he said and voted for him back then. 2020 was a very...horrible year imo regardless of how one thinks of covid and the lockdowns.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

If they can win with Kamala it means the population replacement has reached critical mass and the rigging machine is unbeatable. They can do whatever they want forever and no American will be allowed to win ever again.

This is quite possibly the last real presidential election and will be if Trump doesnt win. Kamala will grant more amnesty and flood more illegals to secure all swing states forever in 4 years.

Forget the shifting demographics, they've supplanted the primary process entirely. I don't see why you wouldn't keep going with the winning strategy of "let the person in power stay president and forego the next election to endorse the VP (or really anyone they fucking want) who can then spend 100% of their time on the campaign trail." I've talked to people who, when presented with overwhelming criticism of Biden, say "well I'm not voting for him, I'm voting for Kamala." Forget the fact that the American electorate was so against Kamala that she DROPPED OUT before the 2020 primaries even started. Frankly the only whitepill (in this aspect anyway) is that the Dems are so retarded they probably won't use this strategy again even if it does work.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Isn’t the actual definition of assault weapon a select fire rifle? Those are already banned via automatic weapons bans.

Are they arguing that semi-auto and safety is the same as full-auto, burst, and semi?

 

[JambledUpWords]

Dems are way overestimating their own popularity. Even in a scenario where Kamala wins, the map isn’t going to be this blue

 

[0713]

The man who drove the garbage truck with Donald Trump:

"They're gonna rename election day garbage day, 'cause we're gonna be taking out the trash."

https://x.com/SweetPeaBell326/status/1852026828828885343

https://archive.ph/wip/or4U3

 

[Train Operator]

Who wants fuck and suck from something that looks like it fell out of a jeet ass on a designated street?

 

[Soycast Guy]

no, you don't understand. she literally fucked and sucked her way into politics

Formerly chucks

 

[Necrosan]

Apparently in spite of seemingly being ahead the Kamala HQ's levels of excitement closely resemble the Führerbunker's. Really makes you think.

There is nothing I want to see more than the DNC bunker on Election Night if she loses and has to address the audience, and she will be made to do so because she doesn't have the pull Hillary does, they are not going to let her get away easy.

 

[Two Dollars]

Reading up on the last 20 pages, there has apparently now been some sort of controversy about Sleepy Biden calling trump supporters "Garbage", I don't know why they of all people are now getting assmad about this when Trump has been known (and loved) for flaming his way into the presidency.

Trump Supporters seeing their guy talk shit all they want, but NOW they get offended when the other side makes a relatively mild statement about them now.

The exact same thing happened with Hillary, and you still don’t get it. There’s a colossal difference between insulting your opponent and insulting your opponent’s followers. When someone insults their opponent, the expectation is that the opposition’s followers will reconsider their choice to back their side. When someone insults their opponent’s followers, the expectation is that the opposition’s followers will go “gee whiz, I guess I DO suck! better turn around and support the party that openly hates me instead!”

 

[BigJoey41X]

Tbh my mother seemed less enthusiastic about voting for Trump in 2020 compared to now. She didn't agree with the choices he made with covid and lockdowns. Fast forward to today and (this could be because she has made right leaning friends online) she fully backs Trump. Even in 2016 she agreed with a lot of what he said and voted for him back then. 2020 was a very...horrible year imo regardless of how one thinks of covid and the lockdowns.

THIS, the handling of COVID just looked unquestionably bad for Trump (To be fair some of it was just out of his control) and soured a good portion of independent voters against him, I'd argue it's the biggest reason he wasn't re-elected last time.

 

[whoishomermynameis]

 

[Rimanah]

I was never defending Marxism, I said in my last statement that Marxism was never actually implemented because it was too impractical to be used IRL, so the Communist leaders tried to make their own take on the whole thing.

Spoiler: It caused a lot of suffering, death, and destitution, 10/10 would probably not try again.

Fair enough. But I do still dispute your characterization of it as a meme ideology.
Whether or not it’s a good system (and we agree it’s not) there are indisputably people in America who advocate for it, or at least claim to.

Given its horrid history it undersells it to call it a meme ideology. It’s a very dangerous idea, and many of its advocates are influencers and in academia, giving them undue influence over many impressionable people. This is why many people still talk about it as an issue, because people are still advocating for it.

Now, maybe those advocates aren’t “actual Marxists” if we define that term just by adhering to Kaptial. But that gets to the meaning is use point. If they claim to be Marxists, follow the ideas that are generally understood as Marxism, and are understood by everyone else to be Marxists, they are Marxists.