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Are we really ignoring the Ron Paul revolution for the "muh Gamergate" narrative, sorry pal but anyone over the age of 40 had NO FUCKING IDEA what Gamergate was and probably still don't. Like it or not Trump appealed to Boomers and normies. "Meme magic" is the type of shit and creates faggots like Nick Fuentes.
Ron Paul was a nobody for most boomers. In fact, the older conservatives have been losing one election after another from 2008-2016. Trump wasn't that appealing to boomers and normies. Many normies voted for Clinton, and many boomers did so as well. The average boomer supports DA MESSAGE, they voted for Obama and Hillary, and will probably vote again for Kamala.
 
Ron Paul was a nobody for most boomers. In fact, the older conservatives have been losing one election after another from 2008-2016. Trump wasn't that appealing to boomers and normies. Many normies voted for Clinton, and many boomers did so as well. The average boomer supports DA MESSAGE, they voted for Obama and Hillary, and will probably vote again for Kamala.
You don't think Trump has boomer Appeal?
Do black men hate him too?
Did I imagine all those hip-hop songs that praise Trump in the early 2000's?
Also do you think that mostly younger people vote?
 
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and people hated SJWs back then more than they do now.

I'm gonna have to disagree with this.

They arguably hate SJWs more than they did then. Because they've held a lot more power in 2020 to 2024 than they did then, and they've run everything into the ground.

They were also a lot more brazen about grooming kids than they were back then, or in the very least, their opposition paid a lot more attention to it now than they did then, as only the super edgy anti-SJWs were the ones pointing out things like Queer Kids Stuff or Drag Queen Story Hour.
 
You don't think Trump has boomer Appeal?
Do black men hate him too?
Did I imagine all those hip-hop songs that praise Trump in the early 2000's?
Also do you think that mostly younger people vote?
Trump back from the early 2000s was your average liberal. His book, ''The America We Deserve'', was pro-choice, pro-taxing the rich, and outright liberal in its messaging. That is not who Trump is today. The boomers who thought Trump was cool back in the 2000s when he was a liberal probably hate his fucking guts now.

Most boomers I know today fucking hate Trump and vote Left. We're even seeing a strong core of older Republicans who will vote for and support Kamala this coming election. Any boomer who isn't a rabid Evangelical is swinging over to the Democrat side. In fact, it's young men frustrated with feminism who form the strongest core of supporters for Trump outside of the Evangelicals.

This is partially why the Breadtube community is freaking the fuck out. They can't understand why young men who aren't dyed-in-the-wool Evangelicals are voting for Trump.

I'm gonna have to disagree with this.

They arguably hate SJWs more than they did then. Because they've held a lot more power in 2020 to 2024 than they did then, and they've run everything into the ground.

They were also a lot more brazen about grooming kids than they were back then, or in the very least, their opposition paid a lot more attention to it now than they did then, as only the super edgy anti-SJWs were the ones pointing out things like Queer Kids Stuff or Drag Queen Story Hour.
Not what I'm seeing. Back then SJWs were so hated that people were leaving the Left for the Right. Now, it's the other way around; people on the Right who aren't full Trump supporters are going over to Kamala's side.
 
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Trump back from the early 2000s was your average liberal. His book, ''The America We Deserve'', was pro-choice, pro-taxing the rich, and outright liberal in its messaging. That is not who Trump is today. The boomers who thought Trump was cool back in the 2000s when he was a liberal probably hate his fucking guts now.

Most boomers I know today fucking hate Trump and vote Left. We're even seeing a strong core of older Republicans who will vote for and support Kamala this coming election. Any boomer who isn't a rabid Evangelical is swinging over to the Democrat side. In fact, it's young men frustrated with feminism who form the strongest core of supporters for Trump outside of the Evangelicals.

This is partially why the Breadtube community is freaking the fuck out. They can't understand why young men who aren't dyed-in-the-wool Evangelicals are voting for Trump.
You admit that was Trump then and Trump now is different, if you're point is that he is more center right that right wing that's irrelevant, Also "All the Boomers I know are neo-cons and liberals" is a weak argument.

Any Idiot could tell you that Trump's appeal to men is because he's comfortably masculine, not in a cringy Anime way or an "edgy" internet way but in a real average Joe sort of way, the reason reactionarys don't like Trump is because he dosen't have that aristocratic energy that want a rightist to have, they want their American Franco regardless of how unrealistic it is. Trump appeals to men by being funny and not hating them with a burning passion, he has interests other men also have.
And yes BOOMER RIGHTISTS ARE APART OF THAT!
Your argument is basically that Never-Trumpers exist which is dumb and gay as an attack.
Also no one likes Kamala, every time she's on camera you see how fake and bullshit she is.
 
Any Idiot could tell you that Trump's appeal to men is because he's comfortably masculine, not in a cringy Anime way or an "edgy" internet way but in a real average Joe sort of way, the reason reactionarys don't like Trump is because he dosen't have that aristocratic energy that want a rightist to have, they want their American Franco regardless of how unrealistic it is. Trump appeals to men by being funny and not hating them with a burning passion, he has interests other men also have.
That's the point. Most of the older boomer Republicans who aren't dyed-in-the-wool Evangelicals want a president who has that aristocratic energy in them. Guys like Bush II, Mitt Romney, and John McCain. Trump doesn't appeal to them. Trump appeals to modern, younger men who want to cut straight to the point and feel that they have been wronged by modern-day feminism.

Which is something the Breadtube community cannot process; they think everyone benefits from feminism, even young men, when the results speak otherwise, and many young men are voting for Trump because they're angry at the world and how it treated them. Breadtube and many SJWs are incapable of seeing their efforts as anything but positive, and that every decent person would suppor them; but the fact that people vote for Trump just to piss them off goes to show how badly they miscalculated.

And yes BOOMER RIGHTISTS ARE APART OF THAT!
Boomer conservatives are usually the ones whining about Trump not being ''presidential'', unless they're dyed-in-the-wool Evangelical/religious conservatives and they're just voting for him to piss off the godless SJWs. But the less rabid religious people and right-wing boomers want a president who has more of that aristocratic feel, or to borrow your own terms, an ''American Franco''. Hell, most of the conservative politicians who got burned out on Trump would probably prefer an American Franco to him. Including people like John Bolton, James Mattis, Mike Pence, and other former Trump advisors who now hate his guts.

You admit that was Trump then and Trump now is different, if you're point is that he is more center right that right wing that's irrelevant, Also "All the Boomers I know are neo-cons and liberals" is a weak argument.
The boomers who liked 2000-era Trump now hate 2020-era Trump. Fuck, they hated 2016-era Trump. They want the Trump who swings the same way as Hillary Clinton and who gave money to her, Ted Kennedy, and the other Democrats; they don't want the Trump now who's an Evangelical darling who wants to ban things like abortion and porn.

Your argument is basically that Never-Trumpers exist which is dumb and gay as an attack.
But...never-Trumpers really do exist. Even within Republican ranks. We literally have a word for people who are never-Trumpers; it's called Trump Derangement Syndrome, and yes, people on both sides of the political divide have caught it.

Also no one likes Kamala, every time she's on camera you see how fake and bullshit she is.
Some people said the same thing about Trump in 2016, they underestimated how hated his foes are. But today, more people hate Trump; they're not going to vote for Kamala because she speaks with the grace of an angel-they're going to vote for her because they fucking hate Trump, just like they voted for Biden in 2020.
 
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And yes BOOMER RIGHTISTS ARE APART OF THAT!

Boomer conservatives are usually the ones whining about Trump not being ''presidential'', unless they're dyed-in-the-wool Evangelical/religious conservatives and they're just voting for him to piss off the godless SJWs. But the less rabid religious people and right-wing boomers want a president who has more of that aristocratic feel, or to borrow your own terms, an ''American Franco''. Hell, most of the conservative politicians who got burned out on Trump would probably prefer an American Franco to him. Including people like John Bolton, James Mattis, Mike Pence, and other former Trump advisors who now hate his guts.

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You admit that was Trump then and Trump now is different, if you're point is that he is more center right that right wing that's irrelevant, Also "All the Boomers I know are neo-cons and liberals" is a weak argument.

The boomers who liked 2000-era Trump now hate 2020-era Trump. Fuck, they hated 2016-era Trump. They want the Trump who swings the same way as Hillary Clinton and who gave money to her, Ted Kennedy, and the other Democrats; they don't want the Trump now who's an Evangelical darling who wants to ban things like abortion and porn.

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Your argument is basically that Never-Trumpers exist which is dumb and gay as an attack.

But...never-Trumpers really do exist. Even within Republican ranks. We literally have a word for people who are never-Trumpers; it's called Trump Derangement Syndrome, and yes, people on both sides of the political divide have caught it.

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Also no one likes Kamala, every time she's on camera you see how fake and bullshit she is.

Some people said the same thing about Trump in 2016, they underestimated how hated his foes are. But today, more people hate Trump; they're not going to vote for Kamala because she speaks with the grace of an angel-they're going to vote for her because they fucking hate Trump, just like they voted for Biden in 2020.

This is so hilariously wrong it hurts.

Firstly not everything is made just for young people(and what do we mean by young exactly? 30's?)

Trump's base is made up of Trad caths, the Evangelicals your obsessed with and men in general. I didn't say conservatives I said reactionarys, as in the " what do conservatives conservative?" Types. The people who read land and Yarvin on the daily.

Your weird need to exclude rightist Boomers from Trump's base makes no sense even a little bit.

And Kamala is so fake you think she was grown in a lab. She barely appeals to her own base, have you seen Democrat ads? It's just "WE HATE MAGA AND PROJECTS 2025 THAT TRUMP WROTE IN HIS OWN BLOOOOOOOOD!!!!!"

They have nothing else.
 
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You admit that was Trump then and Trump now is different, if you're point is that he is more center right that right wing that's irrelevant, Also "All the Boomers I know are neo-cons and liberals" is a weak argument.

Any Idiot could tell you that Trump's appeal to men is because he's comfortably masculine, not in a cringy Anime way or an "edgy" internet way but in a real average Joe sort of way, the reason reactionarys don't like Trump is because he dosen't have that aristocratic energy that want a rightist to have, they want their American Franco regardless of how unrealistic it is. Trump appeals to men by being funny and not hating them with a burning passion, he has interests other men also have.
And yes BOOMER RIGHTISTS ARE APART OF THAT!
Your argument is basically that Never-Trumpers exist which is dumb and gay as an attack.
Also no one likes Kamala, every time she's on camera you see how fake and bullshit she is.
I wanna se trump win so I can see all the twitter retards cry an piss themselves
 
I wanna se trump win so I can see all the twitter retards cry an piss themselves
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. People vote for Trump because they want to see SJWs cry. And most people who want to see SJWs cry are in their thirties or younger. Most boomers don't even know what the fuck an SJW is, and they can't differentiate from the modern SJW Left to the more conservative workers' rights Left that existed in the 2000s.

This is what's gotten Breadtube stumped. They cannot understand or accept why young men are voting for Trump in general, even though feminism has been disastrous for young men and has led to young men despising feminists and SJWs. So if they have to vote for Trump to get back at the SJWs and feminists, they will.

This is so hilariously wrong it hurts.

Firstly not everything is made just for young people(and what do we mean by young exactly? 30's?)
The young people will live for the next generation. Also, as I've said before, the older voters who aren't far-right Evangelicals are the ones who detest Trump and think he doesn't act ''presidential enough'', whereas most men in their thirties and younger like Trump for that very same reason-he cuts through the facade and says what he wants to say.

Trump's base is made up of Trad caths, the Evangelicals your obsessed with and men in general. I didn't say conservatives I said reactionarys, as in the " what do conservatives conservative?" Types. The people who read land and Yarvin on the daily.
Most of those guys are young. Especially Trad Caths, who hate their boomer Catholic parents for Vatican II and all the modernization that went on in the Church. Your average Trad Cath is in their thirties or younger.

Your weird need to exclude rightist Boomers from Trump's base makes no sense even a little bit.
The only boomers who vote for Trump are far-right Evangelical/religious boomers. Most boomers I've seen are very anti-Trump; conservative Boomers who aren't radicals hate Trump for not having that ''aristocratic'' feel that previous Republican presidential hopefuls had, and there are way more boomers on the Left than the Right. Hell, boomer college professors were the ones who indoctrinated the Millennial generation to become SJWs, which then led to the backlash that led to Trump's rise.

And Kamala is so fake you think she was grown in a lab. She barely appeals to her own base, have you seen Democrat ads? It's just "WE HATE MAGA AND PROJECTS 2025 THAT TRUMP WROTE IN HIS OWN BLOOOOOOOOD!!!!!"
So was Biden. Yet people voted for him in droves just to tell Trump to fuck himself. Hell, one could say the same about Trump before 2016, since before he became a presidential candidate, all he did was run a business to the ground and run a fake contest show where celebrities pretended to get fired. That's as fake as you can possibly get.
 
The only boomers who vote for Trump are far-right Evangelical/religious boomers.
Objectively and verifiably false. I work in the office for a small HVAC contracting company that also does heating oil deliveries, so my experience with boomers is a bit biased. That said, there are very few liberals and a lot of boomers in the industry, and even the moderate boomers prefer Trump to Kamala (save the hispanics, who don’t talk about politics beyond cracking jokes about Trump- something that’s not inherently tied to politics, let’s be real).

The younger guys, let’s be real, all either prefer Trump or don’t talk politics. The closest good thing I’ve heard about Biden is one guy in his 30’s saying that Biden wasn’t as bad as people made him out to be, right after saying that Trump was still better.
 
Objectively and verifiably false. I work in the office for a small HVAC contracting company that also does heating oil deliveries, so my experience with boomers is a bit biased. That said, there are very few liberals and a lot of boomers in the industry, and even the moderate boomers prefer Trump to Kamala (save the hispanics, who don’t talk about politics beyond cracking jokes about Trump- something that’s not inherently tied to politics, let’s be real).
Most boomers I've met don't like Trump unless they're far-right religious conservatives. The boomers I've met see Trump as a punk, as a failed businessman, while the younger people get, the more they're pro-Trump because he pisses off the right people. I've even seen young Hispanic men voice support for Trump because he seems more manly, more masculine, which is what they want in a leader, while their elders vote strictly Democrat because of the benefits.

The younger guys, let’s be real, all either prefer Trump or don’t talk politics. The closest good thing I’ve heard about Biden is one guy in his 30’s saying that Biden wasn’t as bad as people made him out to be, right after saying that Trump was still better.
They mostly prefer Trump or hate both sides. Especially young men who see things from a memetic perspective. SJWs piss them off, Trump pisses off SJWs, hence why they're voting for Trump, Unless they ARE the SJWs, mostly from the Millennial era, in which case they're Kamala's people.
 
Most of those guys are young. Especially Trad Caths, who hate their boomer Catholic parents for Vatican II and all the modernization that went on in the Church. Your average Trad Cath is in their thirties or younger.
Auron MacIntyre is well into his forties.
Dave Greene(the distributist) is in his early 40's/late 30's
Academic Agent looks at least in his late 30's
He's more conservative than reactionary but Carl Benjamin is at least in his early 40's as well.
It's not just "Young men"
The only boomers who vote for Trump are far-right Evangelical/religious boomers. Most boomers I've seen are very anti-Trump; conservative Boomers who aren't radicals hate Trump for not having that ''aristocratic'' feel that previous Republican presidential hopefuls had, and there are way more boomers on the Left than the Right. Hell, boomer college professors were the ones who indoctrinated the Millennial generation to become SJWs, which then led to the backlash that led to Trump's rise.
Is it only Evas that watch ufc, pro wrestling, are interested in tech and non-combat sports?
I can't confirm that "most Boomers" are eather left or right because I don't have that data, all I know is what I see at from my parents, at Trump's Rallys and what I saw at the RNC.
Though your assessment on the Anti-SJW backlash is accurate.
So was Biden. Yet people voted for him in droves just to tell Trump to fuck himself. Hell, one could say the same about Trump before 2016, since before he became a presidential candidate, all he did was run a business to the ground and run a fake contest show where celebrities pretended to get fired. That's as fake as you can possibly get.
People were mad at Trump for his reaction to Covid and that he didn't protect his base well enough(a legitimate criticism) Biden seemed(some fucking how) to be a more familiar and moderate choice. How that turned out aside(and depending on if you believe in any zombie votes or funny business) that's how that happened.
Kamala is not only uninspired and unlikable but also has ties to all the fuck ups of the current regime.
 
A question for the general thread that doesn't involve Trump as much. Does JJ McCullough count as a Breadtuber? Dude identifies as a conservative, and he usually has conservative takes, but he hates Trump and would vote for Kamala against him.


Auron MacIntyre is well into his forties.
Dave Greene(the distributist) is in his early 40's/late 30's
Academic Agent looks at least in his late 30's
He's more conservative than reactionary but Carl Benjamin is at least in his early 40's as well.
It's not just "Young men"
Late 30s and early 40s are still pretty young. Boomers were born in the 50s and are mostly 70 by now.

Is it only Evas that watch ufc, pro wrestling, are interested in tech and non-combat sports?
I can't confirm that "most Boomers" are eather left or right because I don't have that data, all I know is what I see at from my parents, at Trump's Rallys and what I saw at the RNC.
Most old folks in Trump rallies are religious conservatives, Evangelicals.

Though your assessment on the Anti-SJW backlash is accurate.
My point exactly. The anti-SJW backlash, especially among the youth, is Trump's bread and butter in this election, to Breadtube's consternation.

People were mad at Trump for his reaction to Covid and that he didn't protect his base well enough(a legitimate criticism) Biden seemed(some fucking how) to be a more familiar and moderate choice. How that turned out aside(and depending on if you believe in any zombie votes or funny business) that's how that happened.
Biden was literally an uncharismatic block of wood that people voted for anyways just to tell Trump to go and fuck himself.

Kamala is not only uninspired and unlikable but also has ties to all the fuck ups of the current regime.
Same thing with Biden. Yet that old goat won against Trump. Kamala is literally Biden but black, younger, and female. They're not voting for her because of her merits; they're voting for her because they hate Trump and she's the best chance they've got to deny him the White House.

They're not voting for her because they think she's the best candidate ever. They're voting for her to tell Trump to go to hell.
 
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