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these plus a big nail and a tree work well. you can usually find piles of them near rail road tracks.
Unfortunately I am several thousand feet above where the train tracks are, and call me a tree hugger or whatever, but I don't really want to put nails/bullets in trees.
 
TIL gun owners have low voting rates.


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The 1st and 2nd Amendment are the amendments in which all other freedoms are derived from. That's why they are 1 and 2. It wasn't some arbitrary number the framers of the Constitution picked. They knew exactly with perfect foresight that this would happen at some point in America.

In whatever nightmare scenario she wins I would love for her to try this. Would be pretty funny
 
Now hear me out... a 38 special/357 mag PCC. I know that there have been 38 special semi autos before, like the Ruger Deerfield carbine in 44 magnum. Had rotary or box mags:
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It can work. The mag problem with rimmed rounds CAN be solved because it. It would make owning revolver calibers just that more versatile. You could have one in 45 colt, another in 327 Federal Magnum, doubling your use of your revolver rounds. I think this is a cool idea. Thoughts guys?
 
Now hear me out... a 38 special/357 mag PCC. I know that there have been 38 special semi autos before, like the Ruger Deerfield carbine in 44 magnum. Had rotary or box mags:
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It can work. The mag problem with rimmed rounds CAN be solved because it. It would make owning revolver calibers just that more versatile. You could have one in 45 colt, another in 327 Federal Magnum, doubling your use of your revolver rounds. I think this is a cool idea. Thoughts guys?
I don’t think there is a market for it.
 
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Now hear me out... a 38 special/357 mag PCC. I know that there have been 38 special semi autos before, like the Ruger Deerfield carbine in 44 magnum. Had rotary or box mags:
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It can work. The mag problem with rimmed rounds CAN be solved because it. It would make owning revolver calibers just that more versatile. You could have one in 45 colt, another in 327 Federal Magnum, doubling your use of your revolver rounds. I think this is a cool idea. Thoughts guys?
MSRP $1499, doesn't take Glock mags and caps out at 150 yards. No thanks.
 
I don’t think there is a market for it.
I mean the market is the same guys that buy lever actions to compliment their revolvers.
MSRP $1499, doesn't take Glock mags and caps out at 150 yards. No thanks.
I mean the range is the same as any PCC. As for cost, I could see it being 600 bucks if you went all in on polymer. The no glock mags thought WOULD be a hard sell. The mags would have to be proprietary.
Not only that, what advantage would it have over a carbine in 9mm for target shooting and 300 blk or 7.62x39 for hunting? It would have higher ammo cost, worse terminal performance and likely worse reliability.
The advantage is you can use your horde of 38 special or whatever revolver round you have in a semi auto rifle. The options for using 38 special or 357 magnum are basically either wheelguns or lever actions. A semi auto option would be nice.

It would be targeting a niche, but I think it could be profitable. It would make a person's 1000+ round horde of wheelgun ammo a bit more of a useful investment.

They could plink with 38 special, then hunt with 357 in the same gun. Unlike 300 blk or 7.62x39mm, the cost is variable between those rounds. Buy the cheap 38 special to plink with, and a small amount of 357 to hunt with/ home defense. I think it's economical in that sense.
 
I mean the range is the same as any PCC. As for cost, I could see it being 600 bucks if you went all in on polymer. The no glock mags thought WOULD be a hard sell. The mags would have to be proprietary.
You also need dedicated dual-zero optics that don't exist, or to shoot at such close ranges that it doesn't matter.
The advantage is you can use your horde of 38 special or whatever revolver round you have in a semi auto rifle. The options for using 38 special or 357 magnum are basically either wheelguns or lever actions. A semi auto option would be nice.
People under 65 don't have hordes of .38 special, so there is no market. You would almost be better off selling a 9mm/5.56 combo gun.
It would be targeting a niche, but I think it could be profitable. It would make a person's 1000+ round horde of wheelgun ammo a bit more of a useful investment.
It's not an investment if it doesn't have any chance to appreciate, so by shooting it at all you are cutting into your margins. And in any case, everybody old enough to own 1,000 rounds of .38 special has enough free time to reload.
They could plink with 38 special, then hunt with 357 in the same gun. Unlike 300 blk or 7.62x39mm, the cost is variable between those rounds. Buy the cheap 38 special to plink with, and a small amount of 357 to hunt with/ home defense. I think it's economical in that sense.
You'd need an adjustable gas system or some kind of extremely fine-tuned roller delay to actually cycle .38SPL and .357mag out of the same semi-auto, so for reasons of "having to pay your engineers" it would certainly cost a lot more than a single-caliber weapon.
 
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I mean the market is the same guys that buy lever actions to compliment their revolvers.

I mean the range is the same as any PCC. As for cost, I could see it being 600 bucks if you went all in on polymer. The no glock mags thought WOULD be a hard sell. The mags would have to be proprietary.

The advantage is you can use your horde of 38 special or whatever revolver round you have in a semi auto rifle. The options for using 38 special or 357 magnum are basically either wheelguns or lever actions. A semi auto option would be nice.

It would be targeting a niche, but I think it could be profitable. It would make a person's 1000+ round horde of wheelgun ammo a bit more of a useful investment.

They could plink with 38 special, then hunt with 357 in the same gun. Unlike 300 blk or 7.62x39mm, the cost is variable between those rounds. Buy the cheap 38 special to plink with, and a small amount of 357 to hunt with/ home defense. I think it's economical in that sense.
38 special is almost double the cost of 9mm. A 9mm gun would be an investment. Ammo is a consumable.

Also getting 38 and 357 to run reliably in a semi auto wouldn’t be trivial and would require some sort of adjustment.
 
You also need dedicated dual-zero optics that don't exist, or to shoot at such close ranges that it doesn't matter.
I mean a red dot would work fine for a optic. 38 out of a rifle is 9mm basically. 357 is 10mm in power. Use those solutions.
People under 65 don't have hordes of .38 special, so there is no market. You would almost be better off selling a 9mm/5.56 combo gun.
I do because I have a revolver. The snub nose isn't that dead my guy.
It's not an investment if it doesn't have any chance to appreciate, so by shooting it at all you are cutting into your margins. And in any case, everybody old enough to own 1,000 rounds of .38 special has enough free time to reload.
It's a investment in that you can use your ammo in more than just a revolver or a lever gat. You can have more fun with it. It's easier to buy into because now you have a semi auto that uses it.
You'd need an adjustable gas system or some kind of extremely fine-tuned roller delay to actually cycle .38SPL and .357mag out of the same semi-auto, so for reasons of "having to pay your engineers" it would certainly cost a lot more than a single-caliber weapon.
Also getting 38 and 357 to run reliably in a semi auto wouldn’t be trivial and would require some sort of adjustment.
The Conann pistol did it. It was the recoil springs with it. I think a variable gas system with a valve for the user to switch between 38 or 357 would solve it in a rifle.
38 special is almost double the cost of 9mm. A 9mm gun would be an investment. Ammo is a coconsumable
To steel man this, you can reload 38 way longer per case due to the low pressure. You pay more, but you get double the reload life of 9mm, which is at 35,000 psi vs 17,000 psi for 38 special.
 
An M1 Carbine in .357 Mag would be pretty kino, ngl.
I mean thar basically is the idea. Small, light, uses stick mags, all while packing the revolver round of your choice. Doesn't just have to be 357 either. Once you get the mags figured out, you can shove other rimmed revolver rounds in. 45 colt, 44 magnum, 500 S&W, the list is truly endless!
 
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Thing is, they're usually concentrated on red states or more rural areas of blue states so they votes don't count for much on national elections.

To everyone here, I'd STRONGLY suggest getting a foreign semi auto rifle if you're thinking about it ASAP.

Harris can ban gun imports Day 1 and I'm still strongly of the opinion that she'll win tomorrow and if that happens, 2028 as well.
 
I mean thar basically is the idea. Small, light, uses stick mags, all while packing the revolver round of your choice. Doesn't just have to be 357 either. Once you get the mags figured out, you can shove other rimmed revolver rounds in. 45 colt, 44 magnum, 500 S&W, the list is truly endless!
There were M1s in .45 win mag but they were teetering right on the edge of safety.
 
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