Aaron Imholte / Steel Toe Morning/Evening Show / "The Toe Boys" / r/steeltoeboringshow - Disgraced Minnesotan radio host turned racist Internet shock jock. Cuckold chef de Spaghetti-os, "2-2" boxing "coach". Has a legion of a-logs. Lost his wife to a coke addict he played "Strip Twister" with. Fined $50 for sharing nudes of Kayla Rekieta.

Gobermental Supervisor said:
And then what? What does that get you?

Nothing. It is completely irrelevant for the actual charge.
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Let's say the worst case for Aaron is the prosecution has that naked photo and Geno testifies Aaron sent it and the prosecutor insists on going for the felony.

I imagine at that settlement conference a tactic Aaron's lawyer is going to use is to introduce all the debauchery. An avenue open can be to say his understanding was that the photos could be shared. To boost the credibility there he could say Nick and Kayla are swingers and engage in exhibitionism. Aaron could say Kayla had no problem with him showing the images to other people. You at least introduce the doubt to a jury by introducing all the debauchery and suggest the real motive is not Aaron didn't have a reason to share the photos, but that it is all attempt to get revenge or engage it witness intimidation against Aaron, who is a potential witness against them in a drugs felony case.

Introduce all that stuff to a jury, backed up my text messages to boost Aaron's credibility on the exhibitionism claims, I wouldn't be surprised of the prosecutor decides in advance this isn't a case she wants to put in front of a jury and if she does, there is a realistic chance some jurors will believe Aaron. Having it in black and white they like to be naked can swing that.
 
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Amhole's hair looks like he has some kinda hair caterpillar living on his head
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Look he's sleeping! isn't he just precious
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Kipersonapiscesotter said:
You at least introduce the doubt to a jury by introducing all the debauchery and suggest the real motive is not Aaron didn't have a reason to share the photos, but that it is all attempt to get revenge or engage it witness intimidation against Aaron, who is a potential witness against them in a drugs felony case.
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It doesn't matter whether revenge was the motive for the complaint, just as it doesn't matter whether revenge was Aaron's motive for whatever he told the police about drug possession and use in Casa Rekieta. Half the cases in the criminal justice system wouldn't even exist if it weren't for reports made out of spite

You're going all Perry Mason fanfic about defence strategies when we don't even know whether Aaron will elect a bench trial or a jury trial if the charges proceed and when we have no idea what evidence Aaron's lawyer will try to have suppressed.
 
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repentance said:
It doesn't matter whether revenge was the motive for the complaint, just as it doesn't matter whether revenge was Aaron's motive for whatever he told the police about drug possession and use in Casa Rekieta. Half the cases in the criminal justice system wouldn't even exist if it weren't for reports made out of spite

You're going all Perry Mason fanfic about defence strategies when we don't even know whether Aaron will elect a bench trial or a jury trial if the charges proceed and when we have no idea what evidence Aaron's lawyer will try to have suppressed.
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I personally don't even think it goes to trial and the worst case for Aaron is a misdemeanor. If Geno won't testify and they can't get that multi media message then I imagine it gets dropped completely .

Yet messages floating around of Nick saying they are essentially exhibitionists has to be at least useful.

I'm not trying to say being an exhibitionist means you get to share private photos of someone. Aaron, I know you real this, it was a retarded and scum bsg move to do it. I'm just saying that a jury might struggle to be sympathetic with the "victim" when the full fact pattern is laid out.
 
Gobermental Supervisor said:
And then what? What does that get you?

Nothing. It is completely irrelevant for the actual charge.
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Seriously this extremely expansive interpretation would mean you could somehow force an agreement to privacy on someone by harassing them with nonconsensual dick pics and they couldn't do anything about it. That's sovereign citizen level of "if you don't respond you agree to the contract" levels of nonsense.

I'm not disagreeing the statute is written in a way it could be interpreted that way, I just think it's nonsensical and contrary to basic principles of due process to do it that way.
 
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AnOminous said:
Seriously this extremely expansive interpretation would mean you could somehow force an agreement to privacy on someone by harassing them with nonconsensual dick pics and they couldn't do anything about it. That's sovereign citizen level of "if you don't respond you agree to the contract" levels of nonsense.

I'm not disagreeing the statute is written in a way it could be interpreted that way, I just think it's nonsensical and contrary to basic principles of due process to do it that way.
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I think that is exactly how the statute for the misdemeanor is written on its surface, sending non-consensual dick pics in itself is harassment, so I think its a different topic and situation.

But that is all just for the misdemeanor. Aaron being part of a group chat in which it was shared means it was a closed group, not general public. So the expectation should be automatic that it stays within that group even without written consent by all participants.

For the felony charge it is an entirely different thing, because that would require a history of harassment targeted at Kayla and they simply do not have that. The 1st Amendment is expansive enough to cover everything Aaron said on air about the Crakietas. So that felony will be dropped for sure.
 
Gobermental Supervisor said:
But that is all just for the misdemeanor. Aaron being part of a group chat in which it was shared means it was a closed group, not general public. So the expectation should be automatic that it stays within that group even without written consent by all participants.
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iirc, Aaron said that Nick tried to get him and April to sign NDAs (lol) which would further support the idea of Nick trying to ensure that what happened in the house between the group stayed private.

It was a stupid flex on Aaron's part and I don't believe it's a co-incidence that it happened the day after Kayla messaged him asking him not to discuss polycule goings on publicly and not to contact her family. He kind of deserves to wear the misdemeanour (although not the felony).

More interesting to me is Nick's claim that they didn't know about it until July? Why did April's BFF Keanu take until July to tell them about something "outrageous" which happened in May?

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I think that is exactly how the statute for the misdemeanor is written on its surface, sending non-consensual dick pics in itself is harassment, so I think its a different topic and situation.
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I can see what they were going for with that. Women frequently get deluged with unwanted dick pics and classifying that as an offence provides a potential course of action if the sender ignores requests to stop.

While I think the MN law is too broad, it is what it is and Aaron has to defend himself within that context.
 
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repentance said:
iirc, Aaron said that Nick tried to get him and April to sign NDAs (lol) which would further support the idea of Nick trying to ensure that what happened in the house between the group stayed private.

It was a stupid flex on Aaron's part and I don't believe it's a co-incidence that it happened the day after Kayla messaged him asking him not to discuss polycule goings on publicly and not to contact her family. He kind of deserves to wear the misdemeanour (although not the felony).

More interesting to me is Nick's claim that they didn't know about it until July? Why did April's BFF Keanu take until July to tell them about something "outrageous" which happened in May?


I can see what they were going for with that. Women frequently get deluged with unwanted dick pics and classifying that as an offence provides a potential course of action if the sender ignores requests to stop.

While I think the MN law is too broad, it is what it is and Aaron has to defend himself within that context.
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The felony charge is just slapped on top by the prosecution in an attempt to make he plead out.

Its typical overcharging and since the DA is a feminist warrior its exactly what you expect her to do. Overcharge the white man.
 
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repentance said:
iirc, Aaron said that Nick tried to get him and April to sign NDAs (lol) which would further support the idea of Nick trying to ensure that what happened in the house between the group stayed private.
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If Nick did demand NDAs, which were refused, and then continued to send out shit like that, the other parties made it very clear their response to the request was go fuck yourself. Where's the expectation of privacy in that?
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Its typical overcharging and since the DA is a feminist warrior its exactly what you expect her to do. Overcharge the white man.
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It's just good strategy in general. Force the defendant to defend some absurdly drafted law that has had very little testing to get them to plead to the nothing charge you actually have them on.
repentance said:
I can see what they were going for with that. Women frequently get deluged with unwanted dick pics and classifying that as an offence provides a potential course of action if the sender ignores requests to stop.
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It's a totally different issue. You could end up where the dick pic recipient is the one who gets criminally prosecuted despite never having agreed to any kind of privacy.
 
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AnOminous said:
It's a totally different issue. You could end up where the dick pic recipient is the one who gets criminally prosecuted despite never having agreed to any kind of privacy.
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Is duplicating it already criminal?

Because then sending it to someone with an active cloud sync would be real funny.
 
John Andrews Stan said:
I’m very curious about those who choose Aaron Imholte of all people as their primary target. I mean yes, there are reasons to dislike the guy and never want yourself or your children in his presence. But compared to Nick or Melton? Fuck off.
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I watched part of his show this morning and I think I figured out what's wrong with the thread. The problem is that this idiot Aaron keeps talking about the farms on his stupid fucking show like we are his personal army. He mentions it every day so his fans and his haters both come to the forum to litigate their brain dead fan arguments.

Aaron is hateable to me mainly because he keeps sending the retarded "dabbler verse" onto kf en masse. It's drowning out all interesting discussion.

Can we build a wall to keep these fucking deadbeats out?
 
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John Andrews Stan said:
I’m very curious about those who choose Aaron Imholte of all people as their primary target. I mean yes, there are reasons to dislike the guy and never want yourself or your children in his presence. But compared to Nick or Melton? Fuck off.
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Aaron admits to coming on here and people like you start gushing. You REALLY need friends.
 
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