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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
I was quite surprised by how quickly and how negatively the Biden presidency influenced our politics - the cultural onslaught happened rapidly.
Really weird place where I notice it is Radio 4. Over the last 5 years or so it feels like every fifth voice is American and the "experts" it's more like every third.
 
That’s a good example of what I mean. That kind of cultural seep over.
Yep. Because we're no longer getting a general or UK based perspective, we're getting an American one imposed on us.

And that's the difference between those current voices and past ones like the American chap they often had on the Kitchen Cabinet. He was offering an alternative perspective, the current Americans given a platform tell you it's the right perspective while our tax payer funded "impartial" broadcaster claps along with them like trained seals.
 
I was quite surprised by how quickly and how negatively the Biden presidency influenced our politics
It made me so MATI at the time but how no-one else was picking up on it but when Biden was still running or had just been made President-elect and he had Build Back Better as a slogan behind it and less than 24 hrs later, you saw the press conferences from Boris Johnson and the Kiwi PM, Arcinda?, with the exact same font, colour and branding behind them.

As for cultural impact from US, it's been there since WW2, with US Air bases/navy with actual troops interacting in communities but really ramped up in the 90's with Satellite TV as a main vector- compare biggest TV shows at beginning of 90's to the end-the push for US style customer service interactions "Have a nice day", sure Jan, I've walked ten minutes in the pissing rain to then wait for you to put your fucking phone down to actually pay attention, still get it wrong then claim some form of harassment when incompetence is highlighted. Also, the "I'll sue you" litigation situation that also increased since then.

Will probably be after the weekend, we'll start to see the Anti Trump stuff start to ramp up as Badenoch's first week will be done.
 
Will probably be after the weekend, we'll start to see the Anti Trump stuff start to ramp up as Badenoch's first week will be done.
Speaking of;
  • Kemi Badenoch presses Keir Starmer on Donald Trump's historic US presidential election win and the Budget in her first PMQs as Tory party leader
  • They both congratulate the president-elect, and Badenoch presses Starmer on whether his Foreign Secretary David Lammy will apologise for comments he previously made about Trump - the PM says the pair had a "constructive meeting" a month ago
  • She then asks if he will continue trade talks with the Trump administration - Starmer responds that he will "discuss issues of our economy" with the president-elect
  • Badenoch then moves on to last week's Budget, focusing on farmers and hitting out at the "cruel family farms tax". The PM says the Budget is about fixing the economy and plugging the "£22bn black hole"

Speaking of Lammy couldn't find his tweet but here's a screenshot.
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And here's his screaming Times article. I suspect it already got posted so I'm not adding it in again but making sure there's an archive link.

 
I haven't heard many open reactions to the Trump election win this time around. In 2016 there was more of a widespread acknowledgement in the day-to-day. Not this time. Maybe people are just more indifferent to the idea of a Trump presidency the second time around? Or maybe I just don't know enough people unhinged enough to upload their sobbing, 15 minute rambling breakdown to their Facebook - why anyone does that is beyond me.

I did hear that Emily Maitlis had a small breakdown during the live election coverage on Channel 4. Swearing and eventually leaving the studio. I haven't managed to find any clips though so it may just be bunkum.
 
And on that note - what are the likely impacts on the Uk and Europe as whole? This DOES affect us, when America sneezes we catch a cold. The woke bollocks went into overdrive here when Biden was elected, what America does affects us a lot.
My expectation is that this will be the end of "wokeness": transgenderism, critical race theory, and so on (rainbows please). There'll no longer be the engine of America pumping it out, plus it's what Kemi is strong on. If they've any sense (lol), the new Government will avoid anything in this vein.

I'd bet that Lammy will be moved out of the way somehow. Maybe given a sinecure somewhere, or moved aside to fail at the Home Office.

I wouldn't be surprised if Farage leaves the UK to work for Trump, spelling the end of Reform UK and making it massively more likely the Conservatives will win next time. This isn't necessarily a good thing, as it could prevent them from confronting why they lost.

I expect the war in Ukraine to come to a halt, with the end result being the status quo ante bellum, but with Crimea formally ceded to Russia and Russian sanctions lifted. This would be the best outcome for both sides, though they're too stubborn to admit it.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Farage leaves the UK to work for Trump
I would be. The guy has wanted to be an MP his while life (look at how many elections he's stood in), and he literally just got his wish. He also gave a commitment to Reform voters that "if elected" he would stick around for five years. The specific number of years made me think he'll fuck off immediately after, but not before.

Not saying it's impossible, but I would be surprised.
 
I would be. The guy has wanted to be an MP his while life (look at how many elections he's stood in), and he literally just got his wish. He also gave a commitment to Reform voters that "if elected" he would stick around for five years. The specific number of years made me think he'll fuck off immediately after, but not before.

Not saying it's impossible, but I would be surprised.
Maybe, but the glamour of working for POTUS has a powerful draw.
 
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I would be. The guy has wanted to be an MP his while life (look at how many elections he's stood in), and he literally just got his wish. He also gave a commitment to Reform voters that "if elected" he would stick around for five years. The specific number of years made me think he'll fuck off immediately after, but not before.

Not saying it's impossible, but I would be surprised.
I wouldn't be surprised at all, given he previously vowed he wouldn't be standing for Reform in the GE, and before that promised he wouldn't be starting another party after he left UKIP, and before that promised he wouldn't leave UKIP... the man says whatever will earn him a groat. The only question is whether he'll wait for Starmer to resign first.
 
It's all absolutely hilarious. While it has no direct bearing on me, I have absolutely loved seeing the salt flow.

I'm also enjoying calling out people IRL, asking why they care so much when the UK is a total state. Not one of them has yet to give me a credible answer but they've all got very upset and angry when asked.

It's purely virtue signalling. I've seen the same seething and depair on UK forums and IRL, when called out they mumble something about orange man fascist and don't have anything else to back it up.

For me this was a good few weeks of entertainment but my life will go on as normal and nothing will change. If the results of an election upset you to the point of posting videos of yourself crying, you deserve to be laughed at.
 
Refugee Action (UK charity) is asking everyone to channel their anger about Trump's reelection and sign their petition, which will surely make Keir quake in his boots:

The news that Donald Trump is going to be America’s president is terrifying. I won’t try and sugarcoat it. For those of you who met the news with anger, frustration and fear - I’m with you, I feel it too.

I’m reaching out to remind you that we’re all here together, and we will not give up.

We’re campaigning to end the racist rhetoric that allows leaders like him to gain office.

Need somewhere to channel your feelings right now?

SIGN OUR PETITION AGAINST RACISM

We’re going to need Keir Starmer to recognise the role that Donald Trump plays in spreading this hate, and stand up to the policies and hateful rhetoric that threatens refugees’ lives.
 
Refugee Action (UK charity) is asking everyone to channel their anger about Trump's reelection and sign their petition, which will surely make Keir quake in his boots:

The news that Donald Trump is going to be America’s president is terrifying. I won’t try and sugarcoat it. For those of you who met the news with anger, frustration and fear - I’m with you, I feel it too.

I’m reaching out to remind you that we’re all here together, and we will not give up.

We’re campaigning to end the racist rhetoric that allows leaders like him to gain office.

Need somewhere to channel your feelings right now?

SIGN OUR PETITION AGAINST RACISM

We’re going to need Keir Starmer to recognise the role that Donald Trump plays in spreading this hate, and stand up to the policies and hateful rhetoric that threatens refugees’ lives.
shall i refer them to the news article i posted prior and start my own petition of 'deport immigrant degenerates if they won't stop raping innocent women and girls'?
 
Refugee Action (UK charity) is asking everyone to channel their anger about Trump's reelection and sign their petition, which will surely make Keir quake in his boots:

The news that Donald Trump is going to be America’s president is terrifying. I won’t try and sugarcoat it. For those of you who met the news with anger, frustration and fear - I’m with you, I feel it too.

I’m reaching out to remind you that we’re all here together, and we will not give up.

We’re campaigning to end the racist rhetoric that allows leaders like him to gain office.

Need somewhere to channel your feelings right now?

SIGN OUR PETITION AGAINST RACISM

We’re going to need Keir Starmer to recognise the role that Donald Trump plays in spreading this hate, and stand up to the policies and hateful rhetoric that threatens refugees’ lives.
NGOs truly are the enemies of the state. Of all the things to be concerned about, it's about some orange man being elected across the pond.
 
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