Diseased Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

[Tragon Dirtle]

Cross-post from the Choob thread by @kazuhiro

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An open admission of your autogynephilia is not a "dunk", my choobster.

Also a common discussion topic in his thread is how cheap his clothes are, particularly in his videos, for which people are paying him silly money.

It's a peculiarly British story when you think about it, and it's laced with allegories about social class and the British education system. The biggest mystery to me is what drew the danger hair crowd to Harry Potter in the first place, because taken at face value, divorced from it's fantasy elements, Harry Potter is quite clearly a story which appeals not to comfy notions of social justice, but instead to middle-class aspiration and wish fulfillment; a fact which becomes more obvious when you look at the kind of school Rowling sent her own children to once she'd made a ton of money.

The fact that it took Rowling's opinions on transgender people to finally turn this group against her will forever be amusing to me.

I think the social class/education system stuff is exactly what drew children to harry potter and then partly why they became dangerhairs afterwards. Harry Potter presented education as transformative, which it can be, the main selling point of HP has always been getting to go to hogwarts - JK managed to write a series, like the old boarding school novels, that made school sound like the number 1 place you wanted to be. Think of all the astral projecting to Hogwarts stuff that is still all over TikTok even though people hate JKR now! But Thatcher started dismantling the grammar schools - the nearest equivalent that were based on academic achievement for middle class and lower kids, most were still not getting sent to boarding schools - and the process was finished off by neolib Labour Blair in 1998 with a law that literally bans the creation of new grammars.

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets came out in 1998, so anyone who was of the age to go to a school that focused on the love of learning now had nowhere like that to go - and their boomer parents had benefited from the grammars and, at least in my experience, talked up how important education is and prepped their kids for that experience. Their parents also got into HP, everyone was into it. What these kids got was academies modeled in the american 'no child left behind' style where you were lucky if you got no chairs thrown at you in class, and from their early to late teen years an increasingly worse economy topped off with the 2008 recession that we've never really left.

So kids thought that they were going to be Harry and discover a new world of learning and social mobility upwards. Harry goes from being a kid in a cupboard with hand me downs and getting bullied to being head of the police and friends with the prime minister. Instead, they failed - think of all the ginger male market failure stuff already around troons - and created a system where it was not their fault they failed, it was that they were held back by xyz issues. And they revisit the text that promised them the good life and wow, look it's suddenly full of these systematic issues that they didn't notice at the time bc they were kids, if only they'd known that evil old Rowling had been selling them a lie.

There's a podcast, Harry Potter and the Sacred Text, run by a gay man and a woman who went into the seminary, and use analytical techniques that were used to take life lessons from the bible from Harry Potter. Even though they constantly remind everyone, JKR bad.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

It's a peculiarly British story when you think about it, and it's laced with allegories about social class and the British education system. The biggest mystery to me is what drew the danger hair crowd to Harry Potter in the first place, because taken at face value, divorced from it's fantasy elements, Harry Potter is quite clearly a story which appeals not to comfy notions of social justice, but instead to middle-class aspiration and wish fulfillment; a fact which becomes more obvious when you look at the kind of school Rowling sent her own children to once she'd made a ton of money.

The fact that it took Rowling's opinions on transgender people to finally turn this group against her will forever be amusing to me.

It had a schizophrenic allegory on racial issues.

Like first we learn that muggles are racist towards wizardom, and that muggles are cunts and wizards are amazing.

Then we learn that wizards are actually racist towards pretty much everyone, and muggles are idiotic simpletons.

Then we learn that 'minorities' are also racist and pretty much assholes on their own way.

I personally am of the opinion that Jo couldn't decide who did represent the white people and whom the oppressed masses this week, but, taken at face value, the whole thing easily comes across the universal and enlightened notion that everyone is a fucking cunt.

That said, what brought in the dangerhairs was shipping. Lots and lots of deranged shipping.

 

[teriyakiburns]

But Thatcher started dismantling the grammar schools

This isn't actually correct. Conversion of grammar schools to comprehensives began under Wilson's Labour government in 1965, after they were deemed discriminatory against the poor (even though people like my mother, who was the daughter of a coal miner, were able to attend without issue). Thatcher, when she became education secretary under Heath, ended the compulsory conversion requirement, but by that point so many councils were too heavily invested in conversion to roll back. It would have cost them a fortune to reverse the changes. The conversion of grammars to comprehensives accelerated under Wilson's second government and is arguably one of the reasons the tories returned such a large majority in 79. (Alongside Wilson's and Callaghan's closures of half the coal mines in the UK, which set the scene for Thatcher's betrayal of the mining towns that turned out for her in such huge numbers that year.)

 

[Jerri's Kid]

I've said this before about Moviebob, but it's still remarkable how he doesn't/can't/won't see Harry Potter as the work of an author, but rather as a product put together at a production company by hundreds of faceless workers to be consumed directly out of a tube. Not as a series of books for children to read, but as a brand to be marketed and sold. Like things can only exist for him as consumer goods in a landscape of all encompassing media conglomerates who are obliged even to murder in order to more effectively feed product to an audience.

That's why I enjoy calling him Movieblob. Like The Blob from the movies, he exists to mindlessly consume, but he's not as cool-looking and scary as the real Blob. Still, sticking him in a freezer would stop him just as easily.

 

[Gaëtan Dugas]

Trump should give her the presidential medal of freedom and appoint her the head of some women's rights commission.

 

[LateNightMuffin]

It had a schizophrenic allegory on racial issues.

Like first we learn that muggles are racist towards wizardom, and that muggles are cunts and wizards are amazing.

Then we learn that wizards are actually racist towards pretty much everyone, and muggles are idiotic simpletons.

Then we learn that 'minorities' are also racist and pretty much assholes on their own way.

I personally am of the opinion that Jo couldn't decide who did represent the white people and whom the oppressed masses this week, but, taken at face value, the whole thing easily comes across the universal and enlightened notion that everyone is a fucking cunt.

That doesn't sound schizophrenic to me. Basically every group can be assholes to other groups (and often to their own group as well) sounds pretty much like real life.

 

[King Metalia]

Trump should give her the presidential medal of freedom and appoint her the head of some women's rights commission.

Imagining the salt if J K Rowling and President Trump joined forces would be a thing of beauty.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

Maybe. But on the other hand both Milo and youtuber Owen Jones are, and were, pretentious insufferable faggot grifters. Not much has changed there.

But yeah, she has definitely become more comfortable in her role as turbo-shitposter.

There's definitely been an evolution in her politics over the last six years or so. There are basically two groups of terfs. Those who see through the gender bullshit, got that far and stayed there. And there are those who saw through the gender bullshit and once they questioned one holy truth, started questioning everything and waking up to just how much we're lied to about everything.

Up until recently, I'd kind of assumed JKR was the first kind but after Oct 7th last year, it was clear she sees the danger of mass immigration. And it's clear from her posts over the last few days that at a minimum, she sees Trump as the lesser evil. Though honestly, there is such a sense of relief/glee from her tweets that I think she's possibly a bit happier about his election than just thinking he's the least bad but still orange Hitler Lite.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Imagining the salt if J K Rowling and President Trump joined forces would be a thing of beauty.

She was once a fantasy candidate to have replaced Jeremy Corbyn at the head of Labour, so go figure.

But she is a multimillionaire, she's obviously above average intelligence, she knows a thing or two about life. Why would she bother with becoming a public official and all the pains that come with it in such a hellhole as the UK when she can just comfortably dispense trolling from her scottish castle and be more influential than half of The Graudian's DEI literally-who writers?

 

[Mound Dweller]

Why would she bother with becoming a public official and all the pains that come with it in such a hellhole as the UK when she can just comfortably dispense trolling from her scottish castle and be more influential than half of The Graudian's DEI literally-who writers?

Guy I know has three pensions and after retirement got a job in a shop and also ended up getting into and ended up running local politics because he was bored and needed to do stuff. Some people just have the drive, not sure if JK does though she's more of a pontificator but it wouldn't surprise me if she hits 60, has her inhibitions dissolved, and thinks "if Trump can do it why not me?".

 

[Trapper]

Guy I know has three pensions and after retirement got a job in a shop and also ended up getting into and ended up running local politics because he was bored and needed to do stuff. Some people just have the drive, not sure if JK does though she's more of a pontificator but it wouldn't surprise me if she hits 60, has her inhibitions dissolved, and thinks "if Trump can do it why not me?".

I don’t think she’d want to, she doesn’t do many interviews and isn’t into public speaking. She runs or is heavily involved in a lot of charities, I imagine that takes up a lot of time, and arguably does more to change things than she could in government.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

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"I don't have an argument so I'll just call you a big richer and hope people pick my side since I'm only a small richer."

A literary giant, everyone.

 

[Gorillion others]

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"It's so small and insignificant, why should anyone care?"

She will not be saying that if some he-beast ever entered her dressing room with a camera. Funnily enough, it's people like her that want trans people to be bigger than they are as a sign of ally ship.

 

[Candidate No 7]

Rowling has a fantastic job that she also has the freedom to do exactly as she wants to. Politics is a dirty business that corrodes your soul; for one thing you have to talk to hundreds of absolute morons every week and smile and nod at them like they're not talking crap. She'd have to be the world's biggest masochist to want to swap.

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

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Obviously there are many blackpilling things about the popularity of transgenderism but it's been surprising to learn just how obtuse and cowardly otherwise smart people are willing to be in order to cape for obvious falsehoods. People who I'll admit are smarter and harder working than me, who have earned their money and reputation, can't be fucking bothered to say male rapists aren't women and evidently haven't looked into the implications of their beliefs for even a couple of hours over the course of years.

"Can't imagine why anyone feels threatened by such a small number of individuals" - a subset of said small number of individuals are literally rapists, murderers and knowing sports cheats, and that's before we even get to the medical horrors, internalised homophobia and the inherent untruth of wanting to be seen as the opposite sex.

Credit to JK. I know the above isn't one of her shitposts but I don't think anyone has made me laugh as much as her in the last year. Godsneed.

 

[LateNightMuffin]

People who I'll admit are smarter and harder working than me

Joyce Carol Oates may work hard (she's incredibly prolific, although I think her books are pretty awful) but don't sell yourself short. I don't think she's all that smart.

Also, note Oates really only responds to Rowling being richer, not to the substance of Rowling's comment.

Edit: Also, it annoys me that Oates complains at Rowling's wealth as though Rowling was born rich. But Rowling was born as "proletarian" as Oates, and it's been a long long time since Oates was anything approaching "proletarian." As well as the money from her books and prizes, she is paid by Rutgers.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

She's also not a 'billionairess' any more because she's donated so much to public causes. I think the feminine billionaress to be really catty.

 

[Sheep King]

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What on earth does calling JK a Brit have to do with the argument? Does being from the US, the richest country in the world, make you higher on the progressive stack now?

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

What on earth does calling JK a Brit have to do with the argument? Does being from the US, the richest country in the world, make you higher on the progressive stack now?

Unironically yes. Twitter hates british people, we're all pith helmet wearing colonialists who steal spices but don't use them. Blah blah british museum blah.