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[Sekirodiealot]

Do you have an archive of the video?

It's still up

 

[Breadbassket]

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It seems the discourse is already roaring to life. What an exciting timeline.

An account named after Timothy McVeigh leaving a comment on that proposal is just the cherry on top of it all.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

The irony is that Russians and Chinese people usually have a higher opinion of America than Europeans do, despite being supposed adversaries. And vice-versa. Americans take China or Russia seriously (even if it is as a threat) in a way they never will Germany, France, the UK etc.

I remember the media going apeshit at some world leader event when Putin & Xi shook Trump's hand, and when soyboy beta Trudeu tried to jump in and get handshakes both leaders fucking snubbed him.

And faggot ass journos tried to portray Trump as some dictator's bitch and Trudeu as some brave defender of democracy or whatever...

 

[namelesstacotruck]

It's also notable the truly shitty appointments all seem to be leaning in the foreign policy direction. I think other people have also noted this seems to be a good-cop bad-cop move by Trump, very business negotiations foreign policy of him if true

Trump has proven he can tard wrangle on foreign policy to a degree. If he is going to give bridge favors to the neo cons its where he knows he can counter them.

Also he likes them because it lets him play "the good cop" when doing foreign negotiations.

 

[Waifu Denier]

I agree typically, but that is not what Trump is proposing. He claims they will pay for tax cuts, but any deal that lowers them will lower revenue and increase the deficit.

He said revenue (among other things) the last time as well, but the actual policy was not revenue maximizing, it was based upon careful consideration of which sectors and industries would be most affected and which least affected the US when the trade war with China began. Did you ever actually look at what his policy implementation was?

However, isolating the US market will not fix the issue that makes manufacturing uncompetitive in a fully developed market. The non-competitive parts have not changed. And Is it something you want to change?
We could depress wages, but that is not a good option; while I support helping manufacturing, automation, and development is the main thing that will bring it back.

Tariffs and "isolating" the US Market is a false dichotomy only spouted by advocates of unfettered free trade. Every single country has tariffs, and they form an essential part of basic trade policy, something which has been neglected in the US ever since the end of WW2. China has not had the cheapest labor for a long time, that goes to SEA, India, and others, but they still maintain their position as the world factory and cheapest manufacturing hub, and that is because they actually managed to develop and, crucially, maintain, a world class manufacture and logistics apparatus which endows with it unmatched factor production. The United States used to have such an advantage, which was developed during the peak of US Protectionism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries until GATT, to the extent that during the Marshall Plan, Italian business owners sent to the US for training remarked that the American factories would produce over twice as much in half the time.

The only country that had ever pursued a consistent free trade policy for centuries and maintained economic dominance was the UK, and even then this came with disastrous consequences for its colonies, where regions such as India were heavily deindustrialized as a consequence of forced trade liberalization.

 

[Dirty Larry]

It's still up

not the point, retard

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

COCONUT MILK MOMMY FOR INTELLIGENCE DIRECTOR!

All jokes aside, this is sure to piss off the Democrats.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

IIRC don't certain states like California keep records of how people vote that are publicly accessible? IIRC that was a big thing in the wake of the passing of the gay marriage ban in California; the gay Mafia and their ilk went on a name and shame and destroy rampage to punish anyone who voted let alone left a paper trail donating to the pro-Prop 8 side.

It was financial disclosure of political donations. There was a site called eightmaps.com that used that information along with Google maps to harass people who donated to Proposition 8.

Californians Against Hate targeted larger donors to Proposition 8. But several websites showed less restraint, including Eightmaps.com. Launched in early 2009 by opponents of Proposition 8, the creators of Eightmaps – also known as “Prop. 8 Maps” – took the publicly available names and address information of anyone who had given more than $100 to the campaign and “mashed it” (i.e., overlaid it) with Google maps to provide an electronic map to the residences and workplaces of those donors. Gawker – a media outlet that at times traffics in uncomfortable levels of transparency21 – called it an “icon for the extremes to which political transparency can be taken.”22
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The impact of the Eightmaps project was significant. It began with widespread media coverage and, importantly, a public debate on transparency in political donations – both arguably positive outcomes. Not surprisingly, other impacts were not as positive.

Harassment of Proposition 8 Donors
Many donors to Proposition 8 began experiencing threats, vandalism, intimidation and property destruction in the weeks and months after Eightmaps was launched – though whether or not their information was obtained from Eightmaps or other similar sources cannot be confirmed. Some reported receiving envelopes containing white powder. The Washington Times quoted Charles LiMandri, a Proposition 8 supporter who lived in San Diego as having begun to receive unexpected correspondence after Eightmaps. “I got about two dozen emails and hate phone calls,” Mr. LiMandri was quoted as saying.33 Others received messages like “Burn in Hell,” “Consider yourself lucky,” and “If I had a gun I would have gunned you down along with each and every other supporter.”34 Other Proposition 8 donors reported being pushed out of their jobs following the release of their donation activity.35

United States' Eightmaps: The unintended negative consequences of open data (Archive)

This lead to cancel culture as we know it, with people getting fired from their jobs and corporations threatening to pull out of conservative states:

Donors to Proposition 8 were also targeted through their employers. Scott Eckern, the artistic director of the California Musical Theatre in Sacramento, was forced to resign after his colleagues learned that he had backed the referendum. Brendan Eich was forced to step down as the CEO of Mozilla in 2014, when his past support of Proposition 8 was publicized.

Those who denounce cancel culture often speak as though it was hatched by radical activists and intolerant students, and see the contest as pitting liberal tolerance against illiberal denunciation. But as the history of gay marriage shows, the reality is more complicated. Cancel culture was pioneered in part by veteran political activists such as the lifelong Republican Fred Karger, who organized demonstrations outside commercial properties owned by backers of Proposition 8. And it arose in alliance with corporate power, as seen when corporations declared “capital strikes” by threatening to pull out of states that guaranteed religious freedom to those who rejected gay marriage.
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LGBT organizations played an important role in the construction of this new reality. When the Berlin Wall fell, the Committee for the Free World, a neoconservative think tank, closed its doors. Its director, Midge Decter, concluded that it had served its purpose and so should dissolve. Gay-rights organizations chose a different path after Obergefell. Rather than declare victory and go home, they moved on to the “next frontier”: transgender rights. Religious conservatives had already been largely eliminated from important American institutions, and so posed no internal obstacle to the pursuit of this goal. Feminists, who remained, mostly went along with the idea that men could become women. Those who chose to speak were labeled “TERFs” and targeted with the same arsenal of social, professional, and financial threats that had once been deployed against opponents of same-sex marriage.

How Gay Marriage Changed America (Archive)

And a lot of people may excuse it because gay marriage was on the right side of history:

Not everyone focused on the negative impacts of Eightmaps. Some saw its impact to be positive, particularly in terms of activism around gay rights. Opponents of Proposition 8 were thrilled to see what they saw to be supporters of discrimination (by opposing gays’ right to marriage) targeted and boycotted.42 Erica Anderson, of the Erica-America.com blog was quoted in the MTV newsroom as saying “With Eightmaps, the gays are fighting back, and I say good for them, good for us. This tool is a perfect example of democracy meeting Web 2.0 – in a thoughtful, productive way.”43

Californians Against Hate founder Fred Karger was propelled into gay rights activism by his fight against Proposition 8: “Our opponents want to send a message to all of us that we are second-class citizens, who are not entitled to the same rights as our mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters, aunts, uncles, co-workers, neighbors and our friends who happen to be straight. This will not deter me. I will continue to bring attention to those companies and individuals who spend millions and millions of dollars to stop us from attaining full and equal civil rights,” he wrote in a September, 2009 Huffington Post piece.44

This impact on gay rights was not limited to the immediate period around the launch of Eightmaps, but has snowballed into more permanent changes in national cultural attitude – particularly in terms of Silicon Valley and the world of information technology. Five years after Eightmaps, in 2014, Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich was forced to resign days after assuming the position when he was outed as having donated $1,000 to support Proposition 8 back in 2008. His company’s Firefox Web Browser faced boycott threats as a result of that support and he resigned saying, “Under the present circumstances, I cannot be an effective leader.” The SFGate newspaper quoted Frank Schubert, a political consultant who ran the Prop. 8 campaign, as saying “There’s now no place in current society for holding a view that people have held for thousands of years.”45

United States' Eightmaps:The unintended negative consequences of open data (Archive)

But if you ever wonder how trannies managed to go from punchlines to the center of Western civilization overnight, know that they just used the same tactics and the same organizations that gay activists used to harass anyone they considered a 'homophobe'. And never forget, the slippery slope is real:

 

[Rekeita's Kidneys]

COCONUT MILK MOMMY FOR INTELLIGENCE DIRECTOR!

All jokes aside, this is sure to piss off the Democrats.

Legit if she 1000% abandons the gun grabbing authoritarian bullshit she gets my vote

 

[The Last Stand]

1. I am wholly convinced that the Bidens voted for Trump now.

I don't get it. Why?

 

[LiquidKid]

I'm no fan of elon, I've had my fun lampooning his buttfuck retarded ideas like hyperloop and tunnels for tesla cars but what happened to twitter under elon is one of the best things that could happen to our government; cutting tons of dead weight moochers and removing stupid feel good regulations

He also removed the wine on tap from their HQ. The fact that the employee barely did any work and had access to wine on tap was a horrendous insult to anyone with a real job

 

[Catboy Ranch]

Oh John Bolton is bitching. Good. Very good

I think Matt sending his resignation intent immediately and not waiting for the weekdays after Thanksgiving to do it is a tell.

The "he's resigning and then will withdraw to nuke his Ethics probe" might be a credible theory. He would be withdrawing from his AG nomination in February right as Congress sets the confirmation schedule and starts sending out subpoenas to the nominees. When the House resignation is effective (it's tomorrow), House Ethics will freeze their probe at their very next meeting, which would put all the material they have in confidence. If he bails on the AG appointment, nobody in the Senate is going to make demands that the House send over what the Ethics Committee collected, mostly because it falls outside of the confirmation committee scope.

 

[Mark Goldbridge]

liberal meme

 

[Breadbassket]

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Nothing really groundbreaking, "Israel is just another colonist state" has been a common leftist talking point for decades at this point.

 

[Null]

If you're going to nominate me for anything, nominate me for FCC or NTIA.

 

[Yawning Asperchu]

I could never be in politics. I could not control my urge to tell someone who called me Hitler and my supporters garbage to go kill themselves to their face.

Biden sure looks content, even happy, to be handing the keys over to "Hitler" and "the biggest threat to our democracy." I wonder if that makes anyone on the left re-think things a bit. I know ultra-leftist spokesman Charlamagne the God already came out expressing confusion and a feeling that he and people like him were played.

*Edit: I'll try to include video of the latter, but bear with me, idk all the video/image tricks on here (11:07 would be the time stamp, definitely watch the Michael Cohen part right after that though, it's pretty funny):

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1856894039166980553

Why are we supposed to hate Gaetz again?

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1856801502238589392

 

[Sekirodiealot]

not the point, retard

it is the point when an archive of it doesn't exist and can still be found despite it being unlisted.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I think Matt sending his resignation intent immediately and not waiting for the weekdays after Thanksgiving to do it is a tell.

The "he's resigning and then will withdraw to nuke his Ethics probe" might be a credible theory. He would be withdrawing from his AG nomination in February right as Congress sets the confirmation schedule and starts sending out subpoenas to the nominees. When the House resignation is effective (it's tomorrow), House Ethics will freeze their probe at their very next meeting, which would put all the material they have in confidence. If he bails on the AG appointment, nobody in the Senate is going to make demands that the House send over what the Ethics Committee collected, mostly because it falls outside of the confirmation committee scope.

He doesn't need to nuke his ethics probe. It's fake and gay. He's been nominated in front of millions of people. It's happening brother. And using powers buried in the articles, he will become AG weather or not Trump has to ram rod his cabinet picks through and make the Senate kneel

 

[Celebrate Nite]

it is the point when an archive of it doesn't exist and can still be found despite it being unlisted.

Did you forget what site you're posting on?

In fact, didn't this EXACT same conversation happen once with you?

Did you not learn your lesson the first time?