Fewer Young men are having sex, why? - And why the sex disparity?

[Preacher ✝]

enjoy your teen parenting epidemic then faggot

Oh no, the consequences of your actions, a woman's worst fear.

Why not just keep your legs closed until you're married to someone you want to have children with?

 

[Internet Wizard]

Why not just keep your legs closed until you're married to someone you want to have children with?

in the 2000s they tried telling teens this and it did nothing, because once someone is pregnant the options are to abort or carry it to term
should teens just stop having sex then? Maybe couples should sleep in separate beds like a 1950s sitcom?

 

[Preacher ✝]

should teens just stop having sex then?

Yes. (unless they are married)

 

[Kovachs]

Oh no, the consequences of your actions, a woman's worst fear.

Why not just keep your legs closed until you're married to someone you want to have children with?

That's not a serious suggestion. You're just moralizing to people.

 

[Preacher ✝]

That's not a serious suggestion. You're just moralizing to people.

Morality is a serious suggestion.

I genuinely do not understand what is so objectionable about the concept. It would be one thing if people simply admitted they were horny fucks with little to no self control and acknowledge that is a problem, but to outright reject the moral standard as wrong is absurd and unproductive.

People keep pointing fingers at all the symptoms while pretending the root cause, normalizing immoral sexual activity (which is to say sex outside of marriage), is fine and should be accepted. Why?

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

That's not a serious suggestion. You're just moralizing to people.

Discussing what people should or should not do is a discussion of morality. Saying it is permissible or good to be promiscuous is moralizing too, because it's a moral position you've taken. You don't defend your position, you just imply you like it and accuse everyone else of 'moralizing' while assuming because what you believe is popular with your cohort it's normal or objectively good or something.

should teens just stop having sex then?

Yes. (unless they are married)

Historically, people married young compared to now, arranged or otherwise. This was the case up to the last few generations.

The western notion of "dating" into one's thirties or even beyond is quite recent (past 20-30 years) and we've already seen how it makes people more miserable and fucks up society in a ton of ways, leads to lower birth rates, and the very recent and very pressing issue of "infinity niggers" which is now making the west turn right again.

Almost like there's a reason people who care about society instead of just themselves, and the long term instead of just the next few minutes, have a reason why they want to pump the brakes on this shit.

Maybe couples should sleep in separate beds like a 1950s sitcom?

Maybe just someone stuck with you.

I genuinely do not understand what is so objectionable about the concept. It would be one thing if people simply admitted they were horny fucks with little to no self control and acknowledge that is a problem, but to outright reject the moral standard as wrong is absurd and unproductive.

Something I suggested but didn't flesh out is that if people marry young they're often happier and tend to fuck each other, and if they marry later (having had more partners) they want more, think the grass is greener, and have higher divorce rates.

Promiscuity fucks shit up.

 

[Internet Wizard]

People keep pointing figures at all the symptoms while pretending the root cause, normalizing immoral sexual activity (which is to say sex outside of marriage), is fine and should be accepted. Why?

you know even in hyper religious places people get married just to fuck right??? What the fuck does marriage have to do with sex that makes the need for abortion vanish

Almost like there's a reason people who care about society instead of just themselves, and the long term instead of just the next few minutes, have a reason why they want to pump the brakes on this shit.

No one who is mentally sane has nigger penis or national birth rates in their minds 24/7, it's just delusional fucks like you

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

you know even in hyper religious places people get married just to fuck right??? What the fuck does marriage have to do with sex that makes the need for abortion vanish

I'm not against contraception for married couples. I'm also not against abortion in all cases. Someone with a big family who has practiced contraception and has an unwanted child coming is an interesting moral case.

No one who is mentally sane has nigger penis or national birth rates in their minds 24/7, it's just delusional fucks like you

I only think about birth rates when we need to, such as when we have an immigration epidemic and we're looking at this leading to problems that will affect both of us, which is why we have all the immigration in the first place.

You're the idiot bringing up nigger penises, not me. I realize it's hard for foids to not say "ur a virgin/niggerpenis/can't get laid/my holes" but please try to engage your prefrontal cortex.

I care about society, and believe the problems we've faced as a direct result of promiscuity and our sundered social fabric are worth talking about. You seemingly only care about fucking around until your pussy dries up and you become a cat and wine spinster. I wish you well, but forgive me for putting your hedonistic desires after having a society in the first place.

 

[Preacher ✝]

you know even in hyper religious places people get married just to fuck right???

Yes I know this. People are prone to sin, and naturally flawed beings. That doesn't mean we should just give up and stop trying to be better. Striving for an ideal even when it's hard to achieve.

What the fuck does marriage have to do with sex that makes the need for abortion vanish

There is never a need for abortion. That is a gross misconception. A robust, uniformly religious, society would have systems and structures in place for helping young couple raise children, and options for children who's birth parents are unable or unwilling to raise them. Adoption for parents who can't have kids of their own but want to raise children, or who have an abundance of wealth and love for children in addition to their own, as well as institutions like orphanages.

I'm not against contraception for married couples. I'm also not against abortion in all cases.

I am. It's against my religion. There are natural ways to have sex while reducing the likelihood of conception, but all sex (which should only be between married couples) should be open to conception. Such is the will of God.

Promiscuity fucks shit up.

Indeed. Pun and all.

 

[Kovachs]

Morality is a serious suggestion.

I genuinely do not understand what is so objectionable about the concept. It would be one thing if people simply admitted they were horny fucks with little to no self control and acknowledge that is a problem, but to outright reject the moral standard as wrong is wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

People keep pointing figures at all the symptoms while pretending the root cause, normalizing immoral sexual activity (which is to say sex outside of marriage), is fine and should be accepted. Why?

What is so objectionable? How about forcing a teenage girl who made a mistake to have to drop out of highschool and ruin her life? And the only thing you have to say to that girl is some platitude about how she should've waited till marriage.

You pretend as if there is an absolute moral standard I have to agree with. I don't think abortion is wrong, and I don't think it's murder.

Also, there are plenty of women who get abortions while married or in long-term relationships.

 

[Internet Wizard]

I only think about birth rates when we need to, such as when we have an immigration epidemic and we're looking at this leading to problems that will affect both of us, which is why we have all the immigration in the first place.

what does immigration have to do with young people having sex? Seriously why even mention it in this thread
im not even a girl LMAO

There is never a need for abortion

"Sorry you got raped, thankfully the Church can help you be a mother!"

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

What is so objectionable? How about forcing a teenage girl who made a mistake to have to drop out of highschool and ruin her life? And the only thing you have to say to that girl is some platitude about how she should've waited till marriage.

I think "no, seriously, don't let kids fuck" is a serious suggestion, one that actually works. I'd proffer contraception too, and even abortion, depending.

You pretend as if there is an absolute moral standard I have to agree with. I don't think abortion is wrong, and I don't think it's murder.

That's the entire point of this discussion, what we want to force others to permit or disallow!

Also, there are plenty of women who get abortions while married or in long-term relationships.

Oh the dating thread's been abortion-aborted, I'll go shitpost then.

what does immigration have to do with young people having sex? Seriously why even mention it in this thread

Fucking leads to babies.

im not even a girl LMAO

Anime pfp, you wish you were.

 

[Internet Wizard]

Anime pfp, you wish you were.

Tranny projection award

Fucking leads to babies.

what does immigration have to do with fucking

 

[YautjaWeeb]

Once women decided that around 80-85% of men are completely unattractive and enough men figured out that women are not governed by good intentions, morality, romance, religion or ideology.

Sorry zoomer puritans you can ban pornography and stuff every woman's holes with scripture at this point but in the end you still lose half your stuff and get kicked out of your own home that you bought.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

If the love quest is a rat maze and getting a relationship/laid is the reward
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Then porn is a way to bypass themaze and go straight to the cheese. Obviously the rat will be less enclined to do the maze if he knows an easy path to get dopamine.

Same with porn. It's even more flagrant with gooning culture where those people jerk off for multiple hour with their goonmaster 2000, a ton of lube, while on a call on discord and porn in 5 screens.

It's not though. Finding love is not a linear process of doing the right things and receiving a desired outcome. Masturbation is not the same as sex the same way electrocuting yourself isn't the same as a deep tissue message. You're correlating a human necessity (feeling loved) with a vice.

 

[Preacher ✝]

How about forcing a teenage girl who made a mistake to have to drop out of highschool and ruin her life?

At least you admit it is a mistake. Additionally since when is being a mother akin to "ruining her life" ?

Why this villification of fulfilling your biological purpose?

You pretend as if there is an absolute moral standard

There is.

I have to agree with

No, you have free will and are allowed to be wrong.

I don't think abortion is wrong, and I don't think it's murder.

Case in point.

Also, there are plenty of women who get abortions while married or in long-term relationships.

That doesn't make it any less wrong when they do it.

"Sorry you got raped, thankfully the Church can help you be a mother!"

Rape is wrong, but it does not justify murdering a child. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Rape is also a forcible felony and self defense is venerated. Women should carry guns if they are seriously concerned about being raped because it's perfectly okay to shoot and kill rapists.

 

[Kovachs]

That's the entire point of this discussion, what we want to force others to permit or disallow!

Well there are plenty of people who agree with me on the right of women to have an abortion. Far more than agree with you, at least in western nations. If it comes down to power, you lose. This whole rigamarole of "well what you are doing is technically moralizing as well..." in order to enforce your own moral standards isn't going to make me agree with you and suddenly adopt some strange Christian morality. All you've made the case for is that your morality is as arbitrary as you claim mine is.

I don't get this line of argumentation, and people like you use it all the time. And you think it's some sort of gotcha. It isn't. I don't have to believe I hold some objective moral standard. The other poster, however, is a Christian (well, Catholic). And so he obviously holds that there is an objective moral standard.

 

[Kovachs]

At least you admit it is a mistake. Additionally since when is being a mother akin to "ruining her life" ?

Why this villification of fulfilling your biological purpose?

I never vilified biological processes.

No, you have free will and are allowed to be wrong.

So you'll do nothing if someone decides to get an abortion?

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

Once women decided that around 80-85% of men are completely unattractive and enough men figured out that women are not governed by good intentions, morality, romance, religion or ideology.

Sorry zoomer puritans you can ban pornography and stuff every woman's holes with scripture at this point but in the end you still lose half your stuff and get kicked out of your own home that you bought.

Women aren't all bad. Women are currently being spoiled by messaging that they deserve everything in exchange for merely existing and have been told all their lives having kids is bad and men exist to cater to them. Even the foids who escape their containment forum aren't evil, they're products of western civilization being retarded for the past 60 years.

It's not though. Finding love is not a linear process of doing the right things and receiving a desired outcome. Masturbation is not the same as sex the same way electrocuting yourself isn't the same as a deep tissue message. You're correlating a human necessity (feeling loved) with a vice.

I could not put that any better.

Well there are plenty of people who agree with me on the right of women to have an abortion. Far more than agree with you, at least in western nations. If it comes down to power, you lose. This whole rigamarole of "well what you are doing is technically moralizing as well..." in order to enforce your own moral standards isn't going to make me agree with you and suddenly adopt some strange Christian morality. All you've made the case for is that your morality is as arbitrary as you claim mine is.

I don't get this line of argumentation, and people like you use it all the time. And you think it's some sort of gotcha. It isn't. I don't have to believe I hold some objective moral standard. The other poster, however, is a Christian (well, Catholic). And so he obviously holds that there is an objective moral standard.

I'm really not anti abortion as much as anti promiscuity. Let me be clear: Preacher can speak for himself, my interest is in stopping the bullshit promiscuity and late (or never) marriage problem we're running into, and the reasons I care are because I care about society, I see what this has done to society, and even besides the problems of immigration and low birth rates and a dissolving social fabric, people are more miserable this way, not happier.

My argument isn't theological, it's empirical. "We used to do THIS, and now we do THAT, the results were THIS, now they're THAT." It coincides with his desire to minimize promiscuity, but I'm really not anti abortion. I would discourage using it as a way to facilitate endless promiscuity, but I don't want to force people who already have families to keep having kids.

tl;dr since nobody can read:
"PROMISCUITY bad, promiscuity leads to people being less happy and lower birth rates, which leads to immigration and all the other bullshit that goes along with it."

Society needs to maintain itself and perpetuate itself, and goddamn adults refusing to do so is a problem. Societies that do not fix their shit are replaced by those who do, or never face these problems in the first place. Put another way, ideologies that continue existing replace those that don't care if they do or do not.

 

[Preacher ✝]

So you'll do nothing if someone decides to get an abortion?

I will stand in opposition to the practice, preach against it, and support legislation that makes it illegal.

I never vilified biological processes.

Then why call it ruining her life?