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Sammich said:
I don't think too many people would defend Alex if it was a reasonable judgement, 100 million or something that would cripple him. But a billion and a half, fuck off, you are just going to the point where you get someone that doesn't really like Jones to defend the guy.
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I mean I love Alex Jones because he’s funny and kino as fuck but he probably earned a punishment for the sandy hook stuff it isn’t a hill I’m willing to die on just cause I like how absurd Jones can be. However then going so far to 1.4 billion is something that will slingshot me back to defending him.
 
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The Ugly One said:
What you do not do is act like an asshole or refuse to comply with orders.
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It's the same with cops. The advice I've seen is if you feel like you're being detained illegally or anything like that don't resist. Peacefully comply. Make it clear verbally you feel your constitutional rights are being violated. Then FOIA the bodycam footage immediately after, file a complain, and a lawsuit if you have a case.
Resisting can be a separate charge even if the original detainment was not valid! So better to comply then follow up after as it makes your case stronger.
I the case of them demanding ID when you feel they have no right to do so have them verify verbally you'll be arrested if you don't. Then if it is invalid they can be gotten for illegal search and seizure (constitutional right).
 
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Amelia Troonheart said:
I the case of them demanding ID when you feel they have no right to do so have them verify verbally you'll be arrested if you don't. Then if it is invalid they can be gotten for illegal search and seizure (constitutional right).
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Some states have stop and identify statutes while others do not. Know your state laws.
 
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The Ugly One said:
That is not what happened. It is a plain lie originating with Jones himself that he was unable to retrieve his data.
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The fundamental basis of it was preposterous though. It's a case for defamation so Jones either said it or he didn't. Playing dumbass games with providing proof he said something that you are basing your whole case off of is ridiculous.

Claiming Jones had a quantitative conspiracy regression model on Google Analytics is also stupid. Nobody would ever be able to prove or disprove any analysts Jones had on staff did such a thing unless they said they did. The Google Analytics data itself would never have proven this and they would have had no idea what Jones paid for or received from the Google Analytics engine. This is akin to fishing.
 
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xXthrowawayaccountXx said:
And I think that failed assassination attempt was what really changed things. People, like null, have accused him of not really caring that much about fixing the country. And I think that is right to an extent before that shooting happened. People change a lot when they have a brush with death, and I think it changed trump a bit as a person. Before, it was just the boiling of the frog, people trying to defame you and tear you down through all the soft means. But when they took that shot, it was no longer a low boil and instead lighting a fire. He saw that an act of god had saved him, and that people who came out to support him were now dead. Dead, because of the news media and the swamp you were fighting against kept igniting hatred and vitriol.
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Boy if you think Trump is really going to fix this country your in a world of hurt.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Some states have stop and identify statutes while others do not. Know your state laws.
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Yes and in certain cases they can ID you if and only if they feel you have, are about to, or are committing a crime. However the trick is that this is based off the knowledge THEY are privy to and which you don't have full knowledge.
So confirm it's a lawful order, that you'll be arrested if you don't, comply, FOIA, and see if they had legal standing based off of the information they had at the time.
It could be for example the area you're on is actually private property and the owner claimed they had trespassed you and called the cops. Even if they hadn't, based off of the knowledge the cops had, it would have been a lawful ID because they thought you were committing a crime (from the knowledge they had).
May not be a perfect example I'm not a cop or a lawyer.
 
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BlackDragoons said:
Boy if you think Trump is really going to fix this country your in a world of hurt.
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Yeah, uh, I never fucking said that?

I don't think anyone could fully "fix" every problem in this country, that would require an entire lineage of people in power that are truly selfless. He is absolutely going to shake up the place way more than a lot of other presidents.
 
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TJT said:
The fundamental basis of it was preposterous though. It's a case for defamation so Jones either said it or he didn't. Playing dumbass games with providing proof he said something that you are basing your whole case off of is ridiculous.
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The request he ignored was a request for Google Analytics data which may have shown he was tailoring his conspiracy theory based on what was generating the most listeners and revenue. However, that's immaterial.

Let me extend my FAQ

Can I ignore a discovery order from a judge if I feel the basis of the lawsuit is preposterous?
No.

Can I ignore a discovery order from a judge if I feel that the request is a dumbass game?
No.
 
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Mr. Manchester said:
He was a different guy back then. He did his Colbert Report show he made fun of Fox news but it had a friendlier message to it, like he was just lampooning people he simply disagreed with. The Colbert of today doesn't have that element of friendliness to him, he's a bitter and angry alarmist. Turned into the very thing he was trying to parody all those years ago.
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So many people don't exactly understand the shitlib late night hosts and why that's the case. Jon stewart and Obama are one of the biggest factors. Allow me to explain a bit.

Back when the Daily Show was first getting revved up, it was a bastion of George W Bush alogging. It was needed, You want to have a group shitting all over those in power, holding them to account, and just mocking them endlessly. The brief time after 9/11 Stewart was, at least outwardly, sort of flag waving time, didn't last too long, but it was there. But it went back to the shitting on W soon after, rightfully. But Obama sort of changed them, i'm not sure if it was because of any top down threats from him, or if they were just happy he won and didn't feel like he should be treated the same. Hard to have ratings when you are suckign the gov't dick so hard.

Cut to Trump and it's back to holding him to account and truth to power and all that bullshit. Then to biden, it was endless propaganda sucking them off again. That leads to them having a small, dwindling audience that don't mind being lied too, or treated like retards by. I'd say 2/3 of the public sees them as the hacks they are now, but you remember them being actually useful. I do too, I was a huge Jon stewart/daily show guy back then. The more time goes on, I do wonder if I was willfully blind back then.
 
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Potatoherder said:
The machine is working overtime. It's so blatant this time and the race has been called you would have thought they wouldn't do it. There is video of them saying they know they aren't legit ballots but are accounting anyways.
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What’s their aim here? Kamala already lost. There’s nothing they could do and if let’s say a new winner was called, the country would erupt into chaos.
 
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The Ugly One said:
The request he ignored was a request for Google Analytics data which may have shown he was tailoring his conspiracy theory based on what was generating the most listeners and revenue. However, that's immaterial.

Let me extend my FAQ

Can I ignore a discovery order from a judge if I feel the basis of the lawsuit is preposterous?
No.

Can I ignore a discovery order from a judge if I feel that the request is a dumbass game?
No.
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I agree with you on all of that. However, summary ruling is an extraordinary remedy. Using it when there were other ways to get the data, such as the plaintiffs subpoenaing Google, should not be acceptable.
 
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Soycast Guy said:
What’s their aim here? Kamala already lost. There’s nothing they could do and if let’s say a new winner was called, the country would erupt into chaos.
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To keep things close. Trump winning in a landslide means the dems fucked up big time and he has public permission to do whatever he wants and Congress should follow him if they know whats good for them. A tight race means that the dems save face, Trump doesn't have that strong a mandate, and any snakes in Congress might feel more confident pushing back against him.

(also to help close the gap and get people to shut up about the missing 2020 dem voters)
 
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