Argue about a game called "webfishing"

[CaddestSlown]

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Life imitates art? No, I think this is by design.

The is the most innocent one here besides the gender related ones and it still seems like something a creep would wear. I blame the mustard yellow on soggy bubblegum pink. Sets off alarms.

 

[Vibe_Guy]

The dev actively supports all of this shit happening with the implementation of 18+ instances. This is not the dev ignoring it, it's him contributing to the problem

I look at it more as distracted driving resulting in manslaughter.

Did the driver intend to kill a pedestrian? No. But he will face manslaughter charges and jail time.

Did the dev intent for his game to become a ERP pedo haven? No. But it did.

Nobody told him the game HAS to be multiplayer. Nobody made him implement multiplayer. The itch.io web fishing game has no multiplayer. But he added it anyway.

Nobody told him to make a poorly moderated discord, but he did. Then he deleted it.

Best course of action would be to disable multiplayer until there are systems in place to provide both moderation and non abusable private server functionality.

 

[DickMain]

You're walking into sperg territory here. Not everything with a surface-level childish aesthetic is purpose-built to lure unassuming children and trick parents. Ironically cutesy media is nothing new. Ever heard of Happy Tree Friends? Ever play Naughty Bear?

Alright, now that I'm sober and a few hours divorced from this, I'll say that this is a retarded point. "Hey, this other thing that presents as a cartoon for kids wasn't trying to groom people, ipso facto this thing that's presenting as a cartoon game for kids must not be either!" Do you understand why that sounds retarded? We call that 'false equivalence'. Just because those properties happen to look 'cutsey' as you put it and aren't trying to groom children doesn't mean that something else that's 'cutsey' can't.

Here's one for you, genius, and I really want to put on your thinking cap for this one: why does the game that is not advertised as an adult game nor has a big-ass popup that says "hey, this might have material unsuitable for minors" like any other steam game with overt adult themes styled like a 'cutsey' children's Nintendo game and contain items built-in that are sexual in nature, with a 'promotional campaign' (if you can call it that) from the lead dev himself specifically pointing out that you can engage in sexual conduct within his game?

Why might that be?

The answer (and I know this might be hard for you to come to grips with) is that it was purpose-built to foster a community of degenerates and does little to nothing to warn customers of what it contains. Parents will buy this game for kids without knowing any better [this is the part where you insert your argument about how it's 100% the fault of the parents, and the developer also doesn't have equal responsibility in protecting his customers].

Here's another one for any Einsteins in the thread: can you figure out which the following material might be? Is it, 1) 'cutsey' material that's related to the grooming of a child? Or 2) no, that never happens, because Happy Tree Friends and Naughty Bear were 'cutesy' and weren't about grooming people?

You don't want to be the person who sees pedophiles everywhere they look, because people who do that are pedophiles.

Any of you other Ivy Leaguers dropping by and thinking the same thing can submit your brave opinions to the following thread where I'm certain it will go over well.

[I applaud any of you scholars who made it this far, but, I'm afraid this is the part where you win the argument and state that I'm arguing in "bad faith" while the rest of the thread calls you a pedo ballwasher; I want you to know I gave it my best shot, truly]

 

[DickMain]

It's just that to me it seems like pwning the dev was the primary goal, whereas pushing him to implement features to police kiddie diddlers was only secondary.

Having read pages on the sharty thread on the matter (the folks who actually performed the dox) my opinion of it is that they're just as sickened by it as most of us here. They seemed for the most part to be doing it because they think the game is gross (for whatever that's worth; I have a very hard time understanding what's even being said by sharty folks at times).

 

[Azure05]

Furfags defending their new child grooming game, what a surprise! Who could have seen this coming?

 

[Vibe_Guy]

You're walking into sperg territory here. Not everything with a surface-level childish aesthetic is purpose-built to lure unassuming children and trick parents. Ironically cutesy media is nothing new. Ever heard of Happy Tree Friends? Ever play Naughty Bear? You don't want to be the person who sees pedophiles everywhere they look, because people who do that are pedophiles.

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Also, I found this within a single Google search. Did you even check?

Quote of a wilfully ignorant newomegagigaultrafaggot who needs to lurk more and shit up threads less above me.

You're living in a different century than me, or else you're too used to how babied modern social media has become. Maybe its gross and definitely motivated by some weird gooning addiction, but what do you think crude humour means in a mature content warning? Fart jokes? Perhaps they're emphasising "light" because the baseline of crude humour these days is an Aquaman parody having on-screen sex with fish and getting his gills fingered.

And lets be honest, how many kids are stumbling across a game like this on Steam? Maybe things have changed, but when I was a kid everyone bought console games. If they played games on the computer, it was because they were free. Like, I dunno, Roblox.

Quote of a arogant douche who should consider sucking a 20g and using discord less above me.

OK, let's put forth some solutions so that Ethan didn't have to get omega doxxxxed and 'zased for his furtroon game.

Quote of a above average penis lenght haver above me.

 

[Vibe_Guy]

Creator of webfishing full email dox bellow me (.CSV format)


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[Temmie]

Furfags defending their new child grooming game, what a surprise! Who could have seen this coming?

I’m defending the dev/game from attacks that I think are unfair and unjustified as well as holding parents accountable for the safety of their kids online.

Oh and also? You’re blocked now too.

 

[Azure05]

>Oh and also? You’re blocked now too.

 

[didelphigina]

There's an accidentally insightful line from this comic about shooting up troonjuice:
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This might be part of why they're obsessed with "body horror" and disgusting fleshy things. It's art made by people who forcefully disbalance their own hormones so badly that their body trying to correct it feels like it's rotting. So I wouldn't be surprised if their dreams really do look like that

Man, trans people like them are really no different from literal crack addicts who feel so close yet so far about why the thing they're doing is bad. I've never seen a group say the exact thing the oh so evil people against them remind them CONSTANTLY yet always end it in a "...this is a good thing, so it's worth it!" over and over again. Man.

No, not quite. There's always people who enjoy being edgelords, and worse, there will always be troons that jerk off to it.

Edgelords? More like safe edgelords. The only time you see a trans person go the edgy route is if they say that edginess toward someone they hate. Even then, the bare minimum wouldn't even make it as a 4chan copypasta.

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Are you for real? This is ridiculous. Who would use their same gmail for everything? It's not that hard to use throwaways or alt emails that people can't track. Common sense be baffled. I can really see this dude getting caught for something, and I don't know if it'll surprise me or not. Just hope it's not something too horrifying to hear.

 

[SomeSpook]

Creator of webfishing full email dox bellow me (.CSV format)
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This right here is the worst opsec I have ever seen

Edgelords? More like safe edgelords. The only time you see a trans person go the edgy route is if they say that edginess toward someone they hate. Even then, the bare minimum wouldn't even make it as a 4chan copypasta.

Double post, but I always cackled like a hyena at the idea of "safe edgy." An idea being oxymoronic in its entirety. Because how can you be edgy if you are not doing something offensive or at the very least pushing the envelope a little bit?

 

[Parvanimous]

Alright, now that I'm sober and a few hours divorced from this, I'll say that this is a retarded point. "Hey, this other thing that presents as a cartoon for kids wasn't trying to groom people, ipso facto this thing that's presenting as a cartoon game for kids must not be either!" Do you understand why that sounds retarded? We call that 'false equivalence'. Just because those properties happen to look 'cutsey' as you put it and aren't trying to groom children doesn't mean that something else that's 'cutsey' can't.

That's not my point and I think you know it. Part of your argument here is "oh, its cartoony, therefore its intended to groom kids". Media like Happy Tree Friends is evidence that this is not always the case, that sometimes adults simply create adult media which features an innocent cartoony aesthetic for the sake of shock or irony. I will concede the online gooner vibe of the game complicates that somewhat, since furries especially have a reputation of sexualising babyish characters. The game certainly appeals to those people, but I'm not out here arguing that it isn't cringe or degenerate. Just that it isn't literally made to groom kids.

Here's one for you, genius, and I really want to put on your thinking cap for this one: why does the game that is not advertised as an adult game nor has a big-ass popup that says "hey, this might have material unsuitable for minors" like any other steam game with overt adult themes styled like a 'cutsey' children's Nintendo game and contain items built-in that are sexual in nature, with a 'promotional campaign' (if you can call it that) from the lead dev himself specifically pointing out that you can engage in sexual conduct within his game?

Why might that be?

Maybe I'm not genius enough to follow this run-on sentence, but I think you forgot the question. Why might what be? Why does the game not contain warning messages? I'm not sure, maybe a laundry list of trigger warnings would ruin the shock value. I don't really think they're as common as you think they are, but I also don't play a lot of cartoon animal sex games so maybe you've got some insight there. Why isn't there a promotional campaign advertising the fact that you can yiff in a public lobby? I don't know, but I doubt this half-assed indie game has any budget for advertising. It seems to get by mostly by word of mouth, which has certainly advertised the adult content. From what I've seen of memes online, adult lobbies are labelled with a big red "18+". Is that an insufficient warning?

Parents will buy this game for kids without knowing any better [this is the part where you insert your argument about how it's 100% the fault of the parents, and the developer also doesn't have equal responsibility in protecting his customers].

I don't think that's an unfair argument to make. Especially if we're talking about online games and especially chatrooms, parents need to take their heads out of their ass. I'll admit that, in terms of making parents aware of what they may be buying for their kids, the Steam page doesn't make it apparent enough. I feel like the ESRB solved this problem 30 years ago but apparently Steam doesn't require a game to be rated to be displayed on its storefront, and it's own rating system clearly isn't sufficient at disclosing the game's content. But that's an ethical conversation about the nuances of consumer awareness and responsibility, and its far from definitive proof that Ethan or whoever is creating a pedophile Outer Heaven.

I mean, talking about false equivalencies, what's the point of linking that pedo manifesto? Like yeah, if Webfishing had a MAP flag on its titlescreen I'd see your point. If Sim Ruben came out with an exposé of a burdgeoning trafficking ring consisting of users like "kid_lover_420", I'd be on board with you. But that's just not the case.

You're MATI and I'm afraid you might need to stop drinking while you browse a forum if it gets you this worked up. Its just not that serious, I'm playing devil's advocate here.

 

[DickMain]

Part of your argument here is "oh, its cartoony, therefore its intended to groom kids".

No, my argument is that the developer does not truthfully advertise the nature of the content within his game, and at face-value a parent looking at this would think it is nothing more than just a children's game because of its visual presentation.

Media like Happy Tree Friends is evidence that this is not always the case, that sometimes adults simply create adult media which features an innocent cartoony aesthetic for the sake of shock or irony.

And this is a game that, like Happy Tree Friends, outwardly presents as a cartoon. Yet, one of these has explicit sexual material baked into it and the other does not. Why is that?

Would you like to keep misrepresenting my points? I've made the same exact point in multiple threads about the developer being irresponsible about how his game's store page is managed and each of you faggots ends up getting so felted they block everybody telling them "you're wrong".

You ought to have stayed a 'lurker' like you said you were before coming out of the woodwork to make your account's first actions defending this pedobait slop.

If Sim Ruben came out with an exposé of a burdgeoning trafficking ring consisting of users like "kid_lover_420", I'd be on board with you. But that's just not the case.

These users and their servers exist in the game. There are several screenshots of this across the threads regarding this game. Would you like to wait and address it when Webfishing 'hits it big' like Roblox and is 'bourgeoning'? Does the environment the game currently fosters not count because it's simply 'not big enough' right now?

Why isn't there a promotional campaign advertising the fact that you can yiff in a public lobby?

The 'promotional campaign' (you'll notice I apostrophized this phrase both here and in my post, because it was a twitter post) was the developer stating you can have sex in the game. It is clear as day approval from the developer himself about what kind of community he wants for his game to foster.

From what I've seen of memes online,

I keep needing to remind you faggots that it's always memes and it's always ironic.

but I also don't play a lot of cartoon animal sex games so maybe you've got some insight there

The "you must be a pedophile because you are critical of material that endangers children " argument has worked for nobody ever, and I wish you luck dying on that hill.

Its just not that serious, I'm playing devil's advocate here.

Refer to this community post and these discussions regarding the game (those are three whole separate arguments you can go and pore over), and you're going to find yourself in a small minority playing 'devil's advocate' as you put it. I'll also add that to argue as a 'devil's advocate' means to argue for a point you don't actually uphold for the sake of exploring the argument. The problem here is that you actually believe in the position you're coming from.

 

[F00LS_3RRAND]

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You invited Cas "Joseph Michael Guernsey" Warfox and MetalDoomer the lolicon who got flirty with a Minor to Kiwifarms?
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Some Screenshots from the Link in screenshot (Lotta Sus shit btw):

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[Parvanimous]

These users and their servers exist in the game. There are several screenshots of this across the threads regarding this game.

Brother LINK THIS SHIT. I don't know why you felt the need to link some Gen Z hateboner thread but not this.

The 'promotional campaign' (you'll notice I apostrophized this phrase both here and in my post, because it was a twitter post) was the developer stating you can have sex in the game. It is clear as day approval from the developer himself about what kind of community he wants for his game to foster.

See, I thought that's what you meant. The structure of your sentence didn't really make sense though, and I didn't want to misrepresent your argument as you said. That would literally be marketing the game for its adult content, which you're also complaining it doesn't do? Should people know about this stuff, or should the developer foster a more savoury audience for his game about "cum leaking chastity cages"?

I keep needing to remind you faggots that it's always memes and it's always ironic.

I know you're imagining me in a pair of programmer socks sharing memes about my favourite Webfishing villager's toebeans, but I literally just mean this:
See, this is a screenshot from the game that somebody showed me, because the game and its community are ridiculous and humourous. Some people like to laugh at lolcows for fun. Do you remember fun?

 

[DickMain]

See, this is a screenshot from the game that somebody showed me, because the game and its community are ridiculous and humourous. Some people like to laugh at lolcows for fun. Do you remember fun?

Hey, remind me, I'm drawing a blank here, what was the fun part of the Roblox ERP community and similar ones as in Webfishing?

That would literally be marketing the game for its adult content, which you're also complaining it doesn't do? Should people know about this stuff, or should the developer foster a more savoury audience for his game about "cum leaking chastity cages"?

Yes, customers (which parents buying this game for their kids happen to be) are reserved the right of an informed purchase of the contents of their game. This game's storefront curiously lacks any mention of these sexual items. Yes, people should know about the fetish gear you can purchase within the game's store. You're confusing the items I'm referring to with the server lists.

Brother LINK THIS SHIT

No, I'm not going to repost a bunch of images from arguments that I provided you links to in my previous posts. Quit being a lazy nigger and go read what other people have had to say about the game. Like I said, you are in a very vocal minority about this game right now.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

Brother LINK THIS SHIT.

brother this stuff really isn't hard to find. the same guy who made this thread has made various videos on the issue at hand and has had his work cited (Moderation for dummies) in a hindenburg article on the game.

I don't know why you felt the need to link some Gen Z hateboner thread

If thats all you're gonna dismiss that thread as, then I dont know what to tell you dude.

 

[Parvanimous]

brother this stuff really isn't hard to find.

Maybe follow the conversation a little better. M Bison is alleging that these users and communities exist on Webfishing, which I've yet to see any evidence of.

If thats all you're gonna dismiss said thread as, then I dont know what to tell you dude.

It was certainly the motivation for linking it. "Oh, zoomers are laughing at something on the Internet? It's probably because they're depraved sadists, like in this thread."

Anyway, Mr. DickMain can't finish his reply before hitting the post button so I'm gonna call it quits here. Direct the rest of your autistic rage via negrating.

You ought to have stayed a 'lurker' like you said you were before coming out of the woodwork to make your account's first actions defending this pedobait slop.

Bonus points for checking my post history like you expect to find out I'm also Jared Fogle on the side.

 

[DickMain]

Nah, I think I'm done with this for now.

lol this thread lives rent-free in this faggot's head. @Parvanimous I urge you to check out those threads I linked, and be aware that @Temmie was the last one to get utterly btfo'd by everybody else in the discussion. You're going to be in the company of a user who stated they want cat dick up their ass, deleted the post and went 'nuh uh', then had their posts restored and delete perms revoked. Are you certain this is the team you want to bat for?

It was certainly the motivation for linking it. "Oh, zoomers are laughing at something on the Internet? It's probably because they're depraved sadists, like in this thread

Well, no, if you weren't a braindead nigger you'd see the parallel I was drawing between the Roblox ERP community, the 'ironic pedophilia'/boykisser communities, and the type of people Webfishing attracts. You would have to actually click those threads and read them to understand that though.

so I'm gonna call it quits here.

Hey, I've seen this one before!

 

[Vibe_Guy]

New lead on troon fishing dev

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