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Terrified friends burned to death in Tesla as electronic doors wouldn't open after crash​

The only survivor of the October 24 fire was a woman in her 20s who was able to get to safety after a quick thinking passer-by smashed a window of the burning Model Y car to free her​



The car burst into flames after hitting a barrier, four of the five passengers were unable to get out as fire engulfed the car (


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  • 08:48, 12 Nov 2024
Four friends died in a horrific car fire after they were unable to escape from a burning Tesla when a crash disabled its electronic doors.
The only survivor of the October 24 fire was a woman in her 20s who was able to get to safety after a passer-by smashed a window of the burning Model Y car.

Four other friends, identified as 25-year-old Neelraj Gohil, his sister Ketaba Gohil, 29, Jay Sisodiya and Digvijay Patel all lost their lives in the incident.
Rick Harper, a Canada Post employee, heroically used a metal pole to smash the car window, freeing the woman. In an interview with the Toronto Star he told reporters she “couldn’t open the doors” from inside of the crashed Tesla.


One woman was saved when a passer-by smashed the window (
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“I would assume the young lady would have tried to open the door from the inside, because she was pretty desperate to get out,” Harper said. “I don't know if that was the battery or what. But she couldn't get out.”
He described how the woman, the only survivor of the wreck, scrambled out of the car head-first after he smashed the window. Harper said he did not know anyone else was in the car at the time, because the smoke was so thick.

He has no way to know if they too were trying to escape the burning car using the unresponsive doors in their final moments. Investigators are still working to determine the cause of the crash, which happened after the Tesla hit a guardrail at speed on Toronto’s Lakeshore Boulevard East.
In the US there are nine investigations involving the Tesla Model Y, ranging from “unexpected brake activation” to “sudden unintended acceleration,” according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Tesla boasts its vehicles gave a “safety-first design” and says its vehicles are “the safest in the world”. There is a manual override in Tesla cars but the feature is not widely publicized, experts say.
In the event of a crash passengers are directed to pull away a palen in the door and tug at a cable underneath to open the doors, but safety watchdogs have said dazed or panicked crash victims may not be able to search for the feature after a car crash.

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Omega Bruh Moment said:
I've never seen any other companies who have vehicles that just fucking explode or catch fire from getting wet
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Others do but its not as sexy of a headline if a Leaf catches fire. The ones that catch fire around here have been the Leafs and the other low tier sedan. For some perspective, the area I live in is full of Teslas. Wealthy black women love them.
 
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grump said:
I'm not on the tesla hate bandwagon like everyone else but I do not understand their obsession of going out of their way to eliminate everything manual to the point where it obviously compromises safety for no reason. Its probably a lot harder to engineer a door that can't be used manually.
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The retarded part is that Teslas have manual/mechanical door switches as a backup. They didn't use them.
 
Sexy Potoo said:
Ok, but there is a massive difference between a gasoline and oil fire, and car battery sized lithium fire.

Also, gasoline has to find an ignition source to burn (granted, a wrecked vehicle can easily provide a source), but the internals of a battery can explosively catch fire when exposed to air. This why EV's are so easy to total. Any potential damage to to battery means that it is a ticking time bomb.

So I don't think EVs are less like to catch on fire after an accident either.
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Gasoline doesn't burn at the temperature of the sun, and is not chemically reactive to IGNITION from a WATER source.

At least mag wheels had to get hot enough to self-ignite.

TowinKarz said:
A little bit later on, Remington also sunk a lot of money into developing rifles with electric primers. Where pulling the trigger didn't drop a physical hammer, but sent an electrical pulse to the primer in the bullet. This was faster than traditional mechanical systems and powder primers that have to take a few fractional seconds to move and then burn and produce gas, etc. But the fractional gains of a light-speed trigger reaction wasn't worth the extra cost, fragility and failure-mode of dead batteries once again meaning a perfectly good gun with perfectly good ammo might not fire due to a failure in a system you added to the already-working device.
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Related: Electronic ignition muzzle loaders are pretty neat, ngl.
 
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The retarded part is that Teslas have manual/mechanical door switches as a backup. They didn't use them.
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I still remember a news bit about an elderly couple getting trapped in a plain old Mazda 3 hatchback because they couldn't figure out the door locks.

My favorite part:
He now knew the manual lock was the same as the inside door handle on many other vehicles.
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Pizdec said:
They did not redeem, and this is their reward. By the way there are manual door openers to Teslas, but that's what happens when you barely pass your literacy tests, eh?
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You know what's better than a tug cord hidden behind a panel that they don't even tell you is there?

This thing called a handle.
mister fireworks said:
The smell was insane and apparently the fire department kept a much larger perimeter around the place for longer than usual due to the toxic white smoke created from the lithium battery.
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Fun fact: lithium batteries not only emit highly toxic smoke that can kill you by itself in an enclosed area, but they have a nasty habit of reigniting even after being extinguished, sometimes repeatedly, sometimes hours or even days later.
 
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BikeLock said:
This thing.

I don't think they're made anymore. Saw a quick criticism of them was that if you didn't take the battery out before loading, you're' basically loading a primed rifle, which I believe is what the kids call "not ideal".
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I was half-expecting to see Gun Jesus pop up. Mildly disappointing. But yeah, there's a lot of room for development of that sort of technology. Are you familiar with the concept of ETC weapons at all?
 
Beautiful Border said:
Honestly not a fan of the people making jokes about this because the passengers were Indian. Like, I find Indians annoying too but that doesn't mean I want them to fucking burn to death in shitty death trap cars. Jesus Christ.
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This is true, burning to death, while cleansing, is a terrible fate. Being electrocuted to death or getting hit by a train is fair more traditional and usually quicker.
 
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Rome's rightful successor said:
Four other friends, identified as 25-year-old Neelraj Gohil, his sister Ketaba Gohil, 29, Jay Sisodiya and Digvijay Patel all lost their lives in the incident.
Rick Harper, a Canada Post employee, heroically used a metal pole to smash the car window, freeing the woman. In an interview with the Toronto Star he told reporters she “couldn’t open the doors” from inside of the crashed Tesla.
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What Rick Harper heard as he was trying to break the Tesla's windows.
 
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mister fireworks said:
I once visited a company that had just experienced a "thermal event" (giant battery fire) with a battery that was smaller than a car, but still larger form factor than any other consumer grade battery sold right now. The smell was insane and apparently the fire department kept a much larger perimeter around the place for longer than usual due to the toxic white smoke created from the lithium battery.
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I saw something where some engineers were experimenting with a single lithium ion cell (basically a mylar bag with the stuff inside) trying to determine exactly when, under charging, it would go into thermal runaway... seeing the cell phone footage of them running away as the damn thing went off like a bottle rocket was hilarious.

Netizennameless said:
The retarded part is that Teslas have manual/mechanical door switches as a backup. They didn't use them.
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I would not call having to pry open a panel and pull on weird cables that aren't clearly labeled "a mechanical switch". Yes, technically it exists, but there's a reason that emergency exits are clearly labeled, and not, say, hidden behind drywall.
 
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neverendingmidi said:
I saw something where some engineers were experimenting with a single lithium ion cell (basically a mylar bag with the stuff inside) trying to determine exactly when, under charging, it would go into thermal runaway... seeing the cell phone footage of them running away as the damn thing went off like a bottle rocket was hilarious.


I would not call having to pry open a panel and pull on weird cables that aren't clearly labeled "a mechanical switch". Yes, technically it exists, but there's a reason that emergency exits are clearly labeled, and not, say, hidden behind drywall.
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Yeah its crazy how many random companies shit out fairly large batteries with nothing but a poorly manufactured BMS and the worlds cheapest battery pack being the only thing separating the end user from a fireball of death.
 
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neverendingmidi said:
I would not call having to pry open a panel and pull on weird cables that aren't clearly labeled "a mechanical switch". Yes, technically it exists, but there's a reason that emergency exits are clearly labeled, and not, say, hidden behind drywall.
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This.

An emergency exit so obtuse you can't figure it out in 5 seconds is NOT a valid emergency exit and something only a turbo-autist like Elon and his engineers could possibly think was a good idea.

Bring it up and I'll bet they just tell you to "read the manual"

Yes, everyone should, but that ignores the fact that 99.9% don't and thanks to litigiousness? What used to be 10 pages long is now over 300 to cover such things as "Do not drink the contents of the battery"

While tidying up the basement last year? I found the original owners manual to my Dad's old Cessna 172. This was an AIRPLANE. And it was.... about 20 pages. A modern car manual is so informative? It's a hindrance.
 
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