Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[muh_moobs]

Can we please stop talking about fearless leader being placed into a situation in which he is forced to use violence to protect himself. Stand your ground state or not, statements like some people are posting could be construed as premeditation and help an aggressive prosecutor to send him away.

I mean, people who have been forced to you lethal means to defend themselves have been successfully prosecuted in the US based on the calibre of the weapon they had. Lets not dig that hole here.

Courts and prosecutors aren't stupid.

But Mr. Anderson thinks he is smarter than they are.

 

[Null]

She got out today because this was nothing more than a simple bond hearing and she's didn't have any issues that caused automatic denial of bail

Yeah, this is the part that's weird. People are bothered her being out and Greta can't stop bragging (which is predictable), but there hasn't been a judgement passed yet.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Kiwifarms is the internet equivalent of a table of nerds that talks shit on popular kids to have a laugh, it honestly boggles my mind that people have cooked up this idea that KF is a cabal of villains that meets in a crypt somewhere every new moon to discuss the systematic assassination of anyone who wants to be a girl

This is the same generation of people who consider sitting near you rape or a threat. Is it really a shocker they consider it an evil place because we laugh at the morons in the glass cage performing for us?

Can we please stop talking about fearless leader being placed into a situation in which he is forced to use violence to protect himself. Stand your ground state or not, statements like some people are posting could be construed as premeditation and help an aggressive prosecutor to send him away.

I mean, people who have been forced to you lethal means to defend themselves have been successfully prosecuted in the US based on the calibre of the weapon they had. Lets not dig that hole here.

Which'd be fine... if it was the boss making these statements. He is not. He has already clearly warned Greta about any return to his domicile in highly polite terms would be construed as a threat due to their previous behaviour on their trip to his place on facebook.

Even if Greta turned up unannounced we have the archived, screen capped posts of her showing off knifes and such and asking what she can legally carry in the previous encounter, which shows premeditation... on their part.

Nobody is encouraging @Null to attack Greta unprovoked and we have far far more evidence that Greta would show Null harm than the other way around.

 

[muh_moobs]

Which'd be fine... if it was the boss making these statements. He is not. He has already clearly warned Greta about any return to his domicile in highly polite terms would be construed as a threat due to their previous behaviour on their trip to his place on facebook.

Even if Greta turned up unannounced we have the archived, screen capped posts of her showing off knifes and such and asking what she can legally carry in the previous encounter, which shows premeditation... on their part.

Still, why add fuel to the fire. I can see some DA making a case that "By allowing people to continue posting on your forum about Mr. Anderson, especially after this person confronted you in the past, you were attempting to create another confrontation with this person so as to provoke them to threaten you so that you could harm them, further evidenced by you being armed yourself and making no effort to relocate yourself so as to avoid further confrontation."

Again, if people in several different states have been prosecuted for premeditated murder (and I believe some have been convicted, but I'm too lazy to cite sources to state such as fact) based on "You bought a high calibre pistol knowing that such ammunition would kill someone if you acted to defend yourself". The hole just gets deeper if a pro-troon DA or a DA caving to poor publicity from the troon raiders puts on the spin that "and you did so knowing that the victim of your bullying was mentally unstable, yet you continued to stalk and harass them while also allowing others to do the same. Then you proceeded to confront them instead of remaining in your home and calling the police."

To be clear, I don't believe Null could be convicted from anyone's statements in this forum, but I do feel as though those comments would make a case for charges to be laid.

Also, @Null, considering the turn things could take, I encourage that one of the tags on this thread be removed. It should be clear which one I'm referencing.

 

[Null]

Also, @Null, considering the turn things could take, I encourage that one of the tags on this thread be removed. It should be clear which one I'm referencing.

done

 

[Field Marshal Crappenberg]

Addendum I made a second and more expansive version https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...tav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-333#post-1999622

So, I very much wanted to try to contribute to this in some meaningful way. After some thought, I determined the best way to do this right now would be to create a list of all meaningful posts from this thread so that Kiwi and outsider alike can easily study the available evidence. I've spent the last 9 hours or so perusing the thread and compiling a large list. So far I have only reached Page 51, but I expect the pace to pick up. I wish to at some point peruse other threads if any exist.

I have divided the useful pertinent posts into a series of spoilered categories. I can also present a non-categorized list in order of submission if that is desired. The posts which I believe are particularly impactful I have bolded. A very large portion is derived from Greta and Nina themselves.

A few things about documentation and archiving before I get to the evidence:

1.) If everyone can access a page, it can be archived with tools such as archive.is. Archiving is preferable because it's an immediate direct copy of the source material and thus not falsifiable.
2.) Greta on Facebook seems to ordinarily make fully public posts. Maybe some are Friends-only, but I see a huge amount as a non-friend. If someone can archive the posts presented as screenshot evidence which are still accessible/in existence, that would further solidify our case. I'm just one doofus and can't do everything I'd like to by myself. If Nina's and TLL's FB pages are similarly accessible, everything I just said also applies to them. Same goes for their Twitter accounts.
3.) When screenshotting such things as Facebook comments, ensure all pertinent comments and threads are fully expanded. I have seen so many screenshots which were less valuable than they could have been because the noteworthy comments/threads were not fully displayed.


Evidence Against Greta/Nina/TLL

Spoiler: Greta Goes to War With Null

* Greta shows off knife purchase in Athens, GA https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...reta-gustav-kjel-anderson.23222/#post-1659989 https://archive.is/HzWpz
* Greta brags about going to Null's house https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...ustav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-3#post-1661672
* Null elaborates on events https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...ustav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-3#post-1661701 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...ustav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-5#post-1662053
* Nina encourages harassment of Null https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...ustav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-4#post-1661801

Spoiler: Jaden's History, Evidence Greta is Exploiting a Minor

* Dog Prom presents Jaden's history and massive concerns about Greta exploiting a troubled teen for TLL work https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-17#post-1668291 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-49#post-1682167

Spoiler: Statistics and Data Provided/Concealed by TLL

* Presentation and analysis of TLL data by Yawning Sneasel https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...ustav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-6#post-1662084
* Software TLL uses for phone service, and its costs https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...ustav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-6#post-1662203
* Very low volunteer activity https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-10#post-1663401
* Tracking of # of volunteers on duty over course of several days https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-14#post-1665800
* Yawning Sneasel analyzes TLL's data and their claims of tripling call answering and demonstrates the claims are implausible https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-18#post-1669286
* TLL explains rejections of porn company's donations, states they pay 2,800 per month to operate despite having virtually zero operators per day https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-19#post-1670118
* Repentance notes TLL has removed their staff pages (and this remains the case) https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-27#post-1673746
* Yawning presents multiple FB posts from Greta and Nina. Most notably, Nina and TLL's stated numbers of taken calls seem erroneous, Greta complains twice about severe anti-trans behavior (she has done this innumerable times in the thread heretofore). Greta says Nina was told by a DMV worker to pull her pants up (she must be a total fucking slob if that's true- she admitted it's not the first time, either) and they attribute it to racism, Greta was almost thrown out for her profanity. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-33#post-1676235
* After many observations of them having zero or one volunteer on duty at almost any given time, TLL revoked public access to the Hotline page. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-34#post-1676484
* Hellfire posts an excellent series of Tweets from several dissatisfied callers and TLL in response. I deem three Tweets most significant: 1.) Lucy says no staff were on duty AT ALL as opposed to none being AVAILABLE. 2.) TLL says they answered 9,000 calls in 2015, seeming to contradict higher numbers for the same periods. 3.) Shelly says their Twitter doesn't even allow DMs. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-37#post-1677511

Spoiler: Greta's and Nina's Poor Behaviors and Attitudes

* Yawning presents FB posts from Greta regarding her constant traveling, her assertion she hasn't had to go on call despite TLL being constantly understaffed, her frustration with other organizations not recognizing hers, and her distrust of police https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-28#post-1674312
* Various Tweets of Greta are submitted, one of the subjects being Greta blatantly endorsing misandry (general hatred of males) https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-29#post-1674515
* Ambivalenz presents Tweets from Greta showing her becoming extremely hostile to someone civilly asking about volunteer screening quality https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-30#post-1674716
* Yawning presents multiple FB posts from Greta and Nina. Most notably, Nina and TLL's stated numbers of taken calls seem erroneous, Greta complains twice about severe anti-trans behavior (she has done this innumerable times in the thread heretofore). Greta says Nina was told by a DMV worker to pull her pants up (she must be a total fucking slob if that's true- she admitted it's not the first time, either) and they attribute it to racism, Greta was almost thrown out for her profanity. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-33#post-1676235
* A_name_but_backwards reports the parts of the manual written by Greta convey misandry by only using female pronouns. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-48#post-1682089

Spoiler: Greta's and Nina's Excessive Traveling, Other Mismanagement

* TLL seemingly violates prohibitions on certain political activities https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-12#post-1664348 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-12#post-1664444
* TLL fires a volunteer for using TLL resources for personal gain, TLL Twitter complains about Cloudflare https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-12#post-1664617
* Greta does what TLL asserted was unacceptable, by using TLL Twitter to advertise her GoFundMe for a root canal https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-12#post-1664624 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-12#post-1664629
* TLL says it's out of resources, Greta talks about their huge roadtrip, calculations on call coverage done by Yawning Sneasel https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-16#post-1666936
* Leelah Alcorn calls TLL, commits suicide anyway. Links to Salon article provided, screenshot of Greta speaking of the article are provided (Greta seems repulsively apathetic and terse about a young trans person who called them ending her life regardless), and Greta and Nina grinning like morons in Florida on same day. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-27#post-1673715
* Repentance notes TLL has removed their staff pages https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-27#post-1673746
* Yawning presents FB posts from Greta regarding her constant traveling, her assertion she hasn't had to go on call despite TLL being constantly understaffed, her frustration with other organizations not recognizing hers, and her distrust of police https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-28#post-1674312
* Hellfire posts an excellent series of Tweets from several dissatisfied callers and TLL in response. I deem three Tweets most significant: 1.) Lucy says no staff were on duty AT ALL as opposed to none being AVAILABLE. 2.) TLL says they answered 9,000 calls in 2015, seeming to contradict higher numbers for the same periods. 3.) Shelly says their Twitter doesn't even allow DMs. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-37#post-1677511

Spoiler: Kiwi-Obtained Data on TLL's Volunteer Availability and Calls

* Very low volunteer activity https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-10#post-1663401
* Tracking of # of volunteers on duty over course of several days https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-14#post-1665800
* After many observations of them having zero or one volunteer on duty at almost any given time, it's noticed TLL revoked public access to the Hotline page. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-34#post-1676484
* Null submits a recording of their 4-second answering machine greeting, which says in a rather unnatural and creepy voice, "No one is available to take your call. Try again later." https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans-lifelines-greta-martela-greta-gustav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-44#post-1680879
* Null analyzes internal data from TLL's call system, determines operators are answering extremely few calls relative to listed staff availability https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-45#post-1681105 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-46#post-1681934 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-46#post-1681940
* Null provides TLL's operator training materials https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-47#post-1681967
* Null gives a couple of after-call operator reports, notes that most calls are lowest-severity Level 1 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-47#post-1681985
* Null confirms that those who are officially on call very often outright fail to answer calls https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-47#post-1682015

Spoiler: People Condemning/Complaining About Greta/Nina/TLL

* Many people complain of inability to reach operators on TLL https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-13#post-1665311 https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-13#post-1665340
* Hellfire posts an excellent series of Tweets from several dissatisfied callers and TLL in response. I deem three Tweets most significant: 1.) Lucy says no staff were on duty AT ALL as opposed to none being AVAILABLE. 2.) TLL says they answered 9,000 calls in 2015, seeming to contradict higher numbers for the same periods. 3.) Shelly says their Twitter doesn't even allow DMs. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-37#post-1677511
* Someone on Twitter accuses Greta of corruption with TLL money. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-45#post-1681102
* Someone accuses a TLL operator of hostility and denial because he's not stereotypical transsexual https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-46#post-1681782

Spoiler: Exploitation of Suicides and Related Jackassery

* Salon article on Leelah Alcorn calling TLL before committing suicide is provided, screenshot of Greta speaking of the article is provided (Greta seems repulsively apathetic and terse about a young trans person who called them ending her life regardless). Greta and Nina grinning like morons in another post in Florida on same day. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-27#post-1673715

Spoiler: The Immigration Saga

* Repentance presents Greta's and Nina's 04/16 GoFundMe for immigration process costs- it raised 230 OVER the 500 goal https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-32#post-1675905 http://archive.is/IM3xJ

Spoiler: TLL's Manuals/Documentation

* TLL's very radical doctrine on police written by Nina https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-23#post-1672240
* Yawning comments on TLL's apparent preference for black and MtF trans people over others, TLL's radical about-face about using GoFundMe, apparent aversion to actively discouraging suicide to callers, various other troubling things https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-25#post-1673371
* Null provides TLL's operator training materials https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-47#post-1681967
* A_name_but_backwards reports the parts of the manual written by Greta convey misandry by only using female pronouns. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-48#post-1682089
* Yawning reports the manual forswears calling police on someone in every conceivable scenario https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-50#post-1682390

Spoiler: Miscellaneous

* Discovery of Greta being sued by Tara Cavanaugh https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-18#post-1668724
* TLL explains rejections of porn company's donations, explains they pay 2,800 per month to operate despite having virtually zero operators per day https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-19#post-1670118
* Repentance provides details on Trevor Project's volunteer requirements and reasons https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-22#post-1670954

Character/Motivation Evidence Favorable to Kiwi Farms

Spoiler

These serve to refute the unmitigatedly sadistic and murderous stereotype of this community regarding trans people/LGBTs in general. The outsider reading this should be aware that a large amount of the offensive rhetoric is exaggerated to enrage the targets and encourage entertaining behavior, or as gestures of humor to other members (Kiwis have a warped sense of humor relative to ordinary society, and "tranny" is very often used neutrally or better here). Of course, genuine and severe transphobia does exist here in abundance as well, but it's far from universal.

* Null (the forum owner) conveys support of LGBT/trans community and service to it https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-10#post-1663387
* Someone implores suicidal trans people to call another hotline, and all but one upvote it https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-16#post-1667728
* Someone makes an extremely anti-trans post and it's downvoted to Hell https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-37#post-1677616
* Yawning states a high proportion of Kiwis- including one admin- is transgender https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trans...stav-kjel-anderson.23222/page-38#post-1677757

 

[Lurkette]

re: null possibly getting rekd in court, this thread, its tags, and very few of its posts were made by him. I doubt any of it could be used as evidence against him, especially since there are rules against weening/directly contacting the cows (and anyone who did harass someone wouldnt be held in a favorable light here.) Greta can easily not look at this website, thus eliminating a large percentage of the "bullying" hes "experiencing". And driving across the country to wave a knife in someones face isnt a spur of the moment, passion fueled sorta thing. That takes dedication and planning, and thered be plenty of time to cool off. The "he was provoked" argument only works when in close proximity iirc.

 

[Jaimas]

Yeah, this is the part that's weird. People are bothered her being out and Greta can't stop bragging (which is predictable), but there hasn't been a judgement passed yet.

If anyone has a proven track record of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, it's anyone remotely associated with ADF.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

I constantly forget that Shrek has two kids that he completely abandoned and never supported.

 

[NQ 952]

I feel like I'm the only one not bothered by Pajeet being released on bail. Shrek and Pajeet were made for each other - they both amplify each others fuck ups.

This drama is guaranteed to continue for at least another month, if not for years down the line. I'm glad. Shrek being tortured by the US government one way or another should provide for some awesome content. The constant posts about how fucked up California is (to try and cover up for the fact that Shrek is a lazy fuckwad that never filed divorce papers) and the near endless REEEEE-ing of Shrek and its orbiters will keep me coming back to the Farms for the foreseeable future.

God has truly blessed us this day.

 

[Holdek]

It takes serious fortitude to willingly break away from Greta and her cult (which is exactly what her circle of friends is, without exception).

If I may give my thoughts: It is a simple lust for power and a desperate need to feel superior to others due to a lifetime of being a completely dysfynctional person that drives Greta. She thinks nothing of threats, insults, or even organized campaigns of terror against those that oppose her that even some of the cows we cover would find disgusting.

There is no actual ulterior motive behind Greta's actions: Simply the need to prove dominance over other people and to enrich herself at the expense of others is sufficient. Make no mistake: Greta will not hesitate to sacrifice every single one of her followers if it means protecting herself.

Sounds like Mao "One Ball" Zedong, along with the personality cult, Cultural Revolutionary terror campaigns, and purges of cadres.

 

[muh_moobs]

re: null possibly getting rekd in court, this thread, its tags, and very few of its posts were made by him. I doubt any of it could be used as evidence against him, especially since there are rules against weening/directly contacting the cows (and anyone who did harass someone wouldnt be held in a favorable light here.) Greta can easily not look at this website, thus eliminating a large percentage of the "bullying" hes "experiencing". And driving across the country to wave a knife in someones face isnt a spur of the moment, passion fueled sorta thing. That takes dedication and planning, and thered be plenty of time to cool off. The "he was provoked" argument only works when in close proximity iirc.

And DAs are dumb. So are Judges since people get taken to court for murder after they've had to defend themselves based on the CALIBRE of their weapon being viewed as "too lethal".

The odds are slim, and I agree that someone driving cross country to threaten Null clearly isn't done in the heat of the moment, but as long as PC culture is still a thing, and as this thread has shown, troons feel that the law doesn't apply to them, so the tranny squad would wail in the media/to a DA crying that Null be brought to justice, and then it's just a crap shoot.

Just takes a prosecutor who thinks like this . . .

I constantly forget that Shrek has two kids that he completely abandoned and never supported.

Don't feel too bad. Kjel's clearly forgotten them, too.

 

[Splendid]

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[Sissy Galvez]

Greta doesn't realize how impotent he is. The noteriety he's gained from his scam, Trans Lifeline, turned him into a loud, aggressive bully. He relies on fear of excommunication from the tranny group to keep anyone critical of him or Nina's mismanagement of TLL and theft of funds from speaking out.

Over time that doesn't work because people he kicks out have become vocal critics and the cracks are appearing. It's only a matter of time now and his critics are more subtle, crafty, and patient than he is.

 

[AnOminous]

Greta doesn't realize how impotent he is. The noteriety he's gained from his scam, Trans Lifeline, turned him into a loud, aggressive bully. He relies on fear of excommunication from the tranny group to keep anyone critical of him or Nina's mismanagement of TLL and theft of funds from speaking out.

Over time that doesn't work because people he kicks out have become vocal critics and the cracks are appearing. It's only a matter of time now and his critics are more subtle, crafty, and patient than he is.

Also you have sites like this that literally don't give a flying fuck about troon whining and actually find it hilarious.

 

[unclestryker]

Well here we are, nina is out of ICE detention. However e begging has just begun.

Painful moments you, winning for us.

 

[downloads]

Marian Anderson died in the early 200os from a heroin overdose and Kjel's parents adopted the child from that brief marriage. When they broke up, Kjel enlisted in the military and Marian couldn't cope so his parents had custody of the little girl even before Marian died

I know I am quoting this from forever ago and I apologize if this has already been addressed. So is the first marriage the one with the missing divorce certificate? If I'm wrong ignore all this

If Greta joined the military while he was married to wife #1 he would have received dependent pay. Assuming Greta had any college courses he would have come in at E3. The basic housing allowance for a dependent is by law supposed to go to supporting that dependent, if Marian was out of the picture Greta was breaking an article of the USMJ and it's a huge deal. In addition to punishment under USMJ Greta could face federal charges such as:

False statements

Theft of government property

False statements relating to healthcare benefits

And conspiracy if Marian knew what he was doing

And in addition he would of course owe back all the money he fraudulently claimed. This is the pay chart from 2001

So in Greta's case he would have been receiving $200 more a month conservatively and he would owe all of that back.

But that might not be all, depending on how Marian's death was classified, if it was classified as accidental rather than drug overdose, Greta would have received spousal life insurance from the military. I'm not sure how much that would be in the early 2000s but it's $100K right now.

 

[TiggerNits]

But that might not be all, depending on how Marian's death was classified, if it was classified as accidental rather than drug overdose, Greta would have received spousal life insurance from the military. I'm not sure how much that would be in the early 2000s but it's $100K right now.

Pre-Iraq I think it was about 60 iirc. After the invasion it jumped to 85-90

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Well here we are, nina is out of ICE detention. However e begging has just begun.
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Painful moments you, winning for us.
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Despite Eloy detention centre and its allegedly gulag like conditions, El Nino has clearly put on weight. Hmmmm.

 

[bacterium]

Despite Eloy detention centre and its allegedly gulag like conditions, El Nino has clearly put on weight. Hmmmm.

Lack of girldicking