Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[Doctor of Autism]

I know we’ve mostly moved past the Moon Gurl shit, but I think it’s hilarious how a good amount of Xitter actually thinks the transphobic Karen is hot. The power of a fat ass, I guess.
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Might I also mention that Jay here (who is apparently 14 years old. Get off of Twitter, play some vidya or something!) was complaining about how you can’t just murder transphobes in kids shows.

Well she is kind of an attractive older woman, though its surprising they didn't just make her ugly

Anyways, any of you have a cartoon from your childhood that feels like a fever dream you just imagined?

Honestly a lot of shows feel like fever dreams, like Chowder and Camp Lazlo felt really weird especially with the finale for the latter where it was revealed the Scout Master is a deranged lunatic who just got in and pretended to take the role.

Also a lot of the cartoons that were just a more adult movie made to be child friendly like the Beetlejuice cartoon

Ohh you don't know half of it, not only did the creator inspire that but actively did incest content
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Given The Loud House itself, I think that show is just his barely disguised fetish.

The kids are all brown. Odds that their great, great, great, grandpappy was actually a white man because POC would never steal, or desecrate historical artifacts and it was just those evil white archeologists?

Could be that the grandparent really loved to mate with all the locals in the countries he explored

 

[Trilby]

Leftists have always hated museums since they build national pride and educate the public on history. The whole "we gotta gibs back all da artifacts cuz da be stolin n shit" is just the modern equivalent of that stance.
Anyway the art style looks terrible and I doubt the writing will be any good.

No different from those that detest circuses, expos and zoos for exploitation.

 

[Sneak 'n' Snore]

Anyways, any of you have a cartoon from your childhood that feels like a fever dream you just imagined?

Something I was recently reminded of was the Tex Avery Show which in hindsight was basically Looney Tunes but way worse in everything. Its mostly known nowadays for defiling Tex's name and having a horrible intro.

Camp Lazlo felt really weird especially with the finale for the latter where it was revealed the Scout Master is a deranged lunatic who just got in and pretended to take the role.

This is a twist I still really don't like. I used to love that show and it felt like it undid a lot of episodes where Lumpus was warming up to the campers or when he actually managed to get on the good side of the scout master of the girls camp he had a crush on.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Something I was recently reminded of was the Tex Avery Show which in hindsight was basically Looney Tunes but way worse in everything. Its mostly known nowadays for defiling Tex's name and having a horrible intro.

The Wacky World of Tex Avery?

 

[Space Police]

The Wacky World of Tex Avery?

Wasn't this only made because one of Tex's descendants needed the licensing money for her kid's education?

 

[Archeops]

Wasn't this only made because one of Tex's descendants needed the licensing money for her kid's education?

Pretty much, his daughter needed money to put her kids through college and she licensed out the name to DIC to do it.

One particularly enraging tidbit of info that's worth mentioning is that the show's producers offered her a really shitty price for it (and even said that they technically didn't need her permission to use Tex Avery's name and would use it regardless of her involvement) but she asked Chuck Jones for help on the matter and she eventually got a decent payout because of it.

 

[Maverick Vile]

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EDIT FOR PROPER CONTEXT: This episode of the Disney Channel animated series Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, fittingly titled The Gatekeeper, was reportedly canned from airing in the United States due to prominently featuring a transgender character, transgenderism being a contentious topic that allegedly helped Donald Trump win the 2024 election.

Holy shit! I know everyone has pointed out the troon squad using violence to win against the evil Karen, but I noticed something a little juicier myself. The key operates on game logic, and they have to play by the rules or be sent back to the beginning, and since one of the rules is "no troons," the team can't get out. There's a few different ways you could get around this. You could find a loophole, or maybe, y'know, the tranny could sit it out and cheer on his team from the sideline for the benefit of the whole team (a very important lesson in team sports). The obvious loophole would be for the troon to renounce his spot on the team and allow the real women to collect all the keys so everyone else can win the game. It'd be humiliating for the troon, yes, but he comes off as heroic for sacrificing his dignity so everyone can get to their volleyball game on time, and you have the added team-building moment of, "You guys don't need me to win, we're a team!" That's never even acknowledged as a potential solution. How do they decide to overcome this obstacle? BY VIOLENTLY CHIMPING OUT AND DESTROYING THE ONE-OF-A-KIND MAGICAL ARTIFACT!
Can anyone help me retrieve my sides? They rocketed off my body and are orbiting Jupiter right now.

It's just so on-the-nose. The perpetually-aggrieved constantly shriek about smashing the system because "it's not fair!" The show's messaging is so blatant. "If you don't get your way, just smash things with your balled-up fist like a disgruntled orangutan until you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want!"

And one more thing: This wasn't some leaked pre-vis. This is a final cut of an episode, fully-animated (loosely using the term "fully," mind you. This is very much done in a limited-animation style). Disney didn't can this during the script phase, the audio recording phase, or even as a rough animatic. Their finger was hovering over the "upload to server" button when execs caught a whiff of the fell wind blowing their way before they said, "y'knooooow, let's just sit on this one. Just see how the election turns out." Disney, the single most wealthy and influential media conglomerate the world has ever seen, was backing the troon squad up to the hilt with this episode until it was overwhelmingly obvious that over half of the US is officially done with the tranny worship bullshit. I never want to hear another fucking troon whining about the system being rigged against them ever again. Disney is the fucking system, and they were willing to suck girldick for cock.

Okay if you're so hellbent on bringing up "modern issues" to kids, why not talk about the countless kids who are actively being groomed by online predators via social media apps? Where are the episodes that actively discuss topics of children getting groomed online and that they SHOULD see the warning signs so that they can stay away from trannypedoes like GoonClown? Where are the episodes where predators are using cartoon porn to groom children into their fetishes and kinks? Where are the episodes where Internet Personalities use their status to commit heinous acts behind closed doors and take advantage towards others? Or is it still about how the hecking trans teen is getting oppressed by the white karen in a show that's supposed to be about space dinosaur powers?

It's thoughts like these that remind me these "artists" are gutless faggots who have no morals or true beliefs and are only there to support the "current thing" that suits them best with no regards for anything else

It's because the animators making this mindless drivel are the gooners. Why would they expose their own hustle?

It feels like the only people who care about children's entertainment are pedophiles who want to fuck the children, wokescolds who want to indoctrinate the children, and miserable adults who want to be children. It's this selfish line of thinking like "well if I don't get anything out of it, why should I bother doing it?"

The people who just want to make content for kids are being locked out of the industry by all the pornsick nepobabies passing each other's references around so only people in their very limited California social clique get work.

 

[Iron Father]

Finished the final ep of Zack Snyder's Twilight of the Gods recently. This scene from the first episode should have you hooked.

So good. I know Snyder is hated on but the animation was so well done across the whole show, with lots of signature slow-mo action, and they set Thor up as such a hateable cunt so immediately that you're really rooting for Sigrid's quest for vengeance lol. They also go overboard (in a cool way) with incorporating all kinds of Norse mythology, so even when there's no action it's still pretty interesting dialogue. Lots of animated dicks too if that's your thing.

 

[DoubleMint]

Noticed something funny on the moon girl episode its a forty seven actually

 

[*Grunts Softly*]

noob here
is cartoon saloon the only animation studio in the world able to make good non-anime feature length films?

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Pendleton Ward and Jack Pendarvis newest pilot for Adult Swim Mystery Cuddlers is on Youtube

Clearly all the money was used on that Hall and Oats song, leaving nothing for the backgrounds.

 

[Chromeo]

Saw this thumbnail on YouTube. Just like old Tupperware in the fridge, I know there's some rancid shit if I dare to open it.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Saw this thumbnail on YouTube. Just like old Tupperware in the fridge, I know there's some rancid shit if I dare to open it.
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Alright, lads. Who wants to reach into the pile of toxic waste?

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Alright, lads. Who wants to reach into the pile of toxic waste?

Sounds like you just volunteered!

 

[Papa stink]

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And that's how you end up with The Boys Season 4.

 

[KissMyTaint]

Alright, lads. Who wants to reach into the pile of toxic waste?

I'll save you the trouble and just summarize it with AI:

Spoiler: AI Summary

The exploration of direct storytelling in animation, particularly in "Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur," highlights how overt storytelling can enhance creative expression while effectively conveying diverse messages for children. The critique of direct storytelling in various media, including anime, suggests that while it has its challenges, visual storytelling can often deliver powerful messages without relying on explicit dialogue. Themes of winning obsession and internal struggle are evident in character development, allowing for relatable growth that resonates with audiences. Additionally, Disney demonstrates how to balance universal themes with casual representation, illustrating the importance of understanding subtlety in media to deepen audience connection and appreciation.

 

[Iron Father]

noob here
is cartoon saloon the only animation studio in the world able to make good non-anime feature length films?

Pretty much, although Gorgonaut are worth keeping an eye on.

Their first feature so far The Spine of Night (2021) was pretty incredible, especially if you love rotoscopic animation.

There's also their short film which The Spine of Night is a sequel to.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

Pendleton Ward and Jack Pendarvis newest pilot for Adult Swim Mystery Cuddlers is on Youtube

Clearly all the money was used on that Hall and Oats song, leaving nothing for the backgrounds.

I watched most of this, and it disappoints me because it feels like the culmination of what we’ve been seeing lately in animation, to a T.

Mystery Cuddlers is a preschool show for adults.

All the design, the pacing, the voice acting, it is largely cues taken from programs meant for the youngest of young audiences, yet the actual content is not meant for kids. It feels like a show meant for the faggots who freak out over other shit like Bluey yet want some “adult” humor in their content instead.

Like, this feels like a “comfort show” for the era of animation where criticism is verboten.

 

[Deus Exica]

So good. I know Snyder is hated on but the animation was so well done across the whole show, with lots of signature slow-mo action, and they set Thor up as such a hateable cunt so immediately that you're really rooting for Sigrid's quest for vengeance lol.

Vikings are kind of gay and played out but it was nice to see an evil warmongering Thor after God of War shat the bed with that opportunity.

 

[Coolio55]

Mystery Cuddlers is a preschool show for adults.

All the design, the pacing, the voice acting, it is largely cues taken from programs meant for the youngest of young audiences, yet the actual content is not meant for kids. It feels like a show meant for the faggots who freak out over other shit like Bluey yet want some “adult” humor in their content instead.

Like, this feels like a “comfort show” for the era of animation where criticism is verboten.

Man, you just gave me a vision of a completely inverted version of "preschool show for adults" and I actually really want it.
Imagine a show with cute appealing characters, cartoony animation, no cheap shock/swearing/drug garbage and everyone talking in a relatively mature tone ...while still being about day to day adult life with adult problems.

Fuck. That sounds like the sort of thing Jim Henson would make.