Weight loss support thread

[Alex Hogendorp]

Cut down/eliminate sweet things. Especially drinks.
It will only result in cravings down the line.

250 is obese (unless you are 6'5"+ and muscular).
I was your weight, and started to feel horrible (now below 190)
Unfortunately we now look at morbid obesity as being just "obese"

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As long as you don't delude yourself.

The fact that people weren't warning me about my weight got me to the fattest I've been since around 10 years ago. I hate how obesity has been normalized and how foods that cause obesity are more discounted than the healthier ones. On the bright side. I known my strategies of losing more than 30 pounds a month and have achieved this before around a year and a half ago. The anecdotes for the public continue to get worse and more and more people end up obese. It literally costs people more resources because fat people are more dependent on these things. People who are fat are less productive causing workplace issues and putting them into bankruptcy.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

Peace, friend. I wasn't criticising you or calling you a liar. Don't take it that way.

My apologies then. My arthritis is acting up today and it makes me cranky. The cold is a bad time for me.

The beauty of zero carb (and being fat adapted) is I never get the shakes (any glucose I eat is a rounding error), even if I fast for multiple days

That's my goal, get fat adapted and off as many medications as possible. First I need to solve the problem of not getting into ketosis, which probably comes down to almost autistic consistency more than anything else.

I did realize that looking at recipes for Christmas while fasting is a bad idea. Haha, obvious in hindsight, right?

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Been working out on the treadmill for 20 minutes for the first time and it has given me the endorphin rush I never had before. I felt like I was being a lot more productive in life. In fact I never had this much euphoria in months. 20 minutes out of anyone's day should not be too much for anyone. I've put much of the rest of my time studying languages (and looking at stars, I'd love to see the stars Canopus and Achernar again when I go south).

I have also decided to substitute my drinks to mostly water as well. I've done this many times before and it has helped before.

 

[bile demon]

My arthritis is acting up today

Taken from a book Fasting Can Save Your Life by Herbert Shelton

https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Fasting+can+save+your+life&lg_topic=libgen

 

[dick brain]

I'm not a woman, but I'm not a big guy either. Someone linked me a protein calculator in response to my original post and this is the amount it recommended I have for my age and build. I've been aiming for the upper end of this range just to be absolutely certain -- is that still not enough? 90g is a lot to keep up with as is.

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If you're trying to build muscle, the rule of thumb is a gram of protein per pound you weigh.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

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Taken from a book Fasting Can Save Your Life by Herbert Shelton

https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Fasting+can+save+your+life&lg_topic=libgen

Thanks for posting that.
The Low Carb Down Under YT channel has some videos where they talk about arthritis sufferers going into remission after cutting carbs out of their diets, which I found interesting.

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

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Taken from a book Fasting Can Save Your Life by Herbert Shelton

https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Fasting+can+save+your+life&lg_topic=libgen

I don't know how credible this is. Did a background check on Herbert Shelton and he sounds like a quack. (inb4 "don't believe the medical establishment, look at what happened during COVID" I get it, they can't always be trusted, but that doesn't mean they're always wrong about everything and that we should take alternative medicine at face value)

Not saying that fasting in general is bad though, I'm just skeptical about extended fasts.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I don't know how credible this is. Did a background check on Herbert Shelton and he sounds like a quack. (inb4 "don't believe the medical establishment, look at what happened during COVID" I get it, they can't always be trusted, but that doesn't mean they're always wrong about everything and that we should take alternative medicine at face value)

Not saying that fasting in general is bad though, I'm just skeptical about extended fasts.

During the spring months 2023. I was eating almost absolutely nothing and I've lost a lot of weight to the point I have become very underweight. Once I started eating as normal again. I ended up on the threshold of Obesity a year later. The thing is, from what I have been told is that losing weight when eating nothing will cause you to gain weight more when you eat what you normally were eating before. It was my life, fluctuating from being underweight to being borderline obese. Drinking water as well as eating a handful of walnuts and almonds as well as vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower and carrots helps counter this (while also avoiding sugar and overeating as much as possible). It is suggested only around 1 meal a day. The thing is. While I am not against fasting. People need to do extended research beforehand.

 

[Max Caulfield]

I recently did a 96 hour fast and I noticed a day and a half in or so my stomach gurgled like it was empty for maybe a few hours on and off. During this time I felt hungry moreso than I did for the majority of the fast. Now that the fast has concluded, with my dietary restrictions in place (coffee, unprocessed meat & veggies only, final destination), I was planning to do a simple OMAD until I reach my target goal with another fast here or there.

What I was wondering was, would it make more sense to not do OMAD and instead, wait for the gurgle (which seemed like my body explicitly telling me it's meal time) or should I wait until the gurgle subsides consistently. If anybody knows the technical terms for what I'm talking about, you'd be super helpful.
I'm kind of retarded, but my last weight in was 236.8 (started at 260.2 about 3 months ago)

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I don't know how credible this is. Did a background check on Herbert Shelton and he sounds like a quack. (inb4 "don't believe the medical establishment, look at what happened during COVID" I get it, they can't always be trusted, but that doesn't mean they're always wrong about everything and that we should take alternative medicine at face value)

Not saying that fasting in general is bad though, I'm just skeptical about extended fasts.

My take on this is that it's not the fasting as such that helped her, it was the elimination of sugar and carbohydrates generally. Yes, she achieved that through fasting but she could also have done it by simply switching to a ketogenic diet for a while.

 

[Derka Derka]

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Taken from a book Fasting Can Save Your Life by Herbert Shelton

https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Fasting+can+save+your+life&lg_topic=libgen

reminder: Arthritis is an auto-immune condition, that mostly appears later in life.

Diet plays a big part (fasting just means you aren't eating foods that will otherwise flare it up)

 

[bile demon]

I don't know how credible this is. Did a background check on Herbert Shelton and he sounds like a quack. (inb4 "don't believe the medical establishment, look at what happened during COVID" I get it, they can't always be trusted, but that doesn't mean they're always wrong about everything and that we should take alternative medicine at face value)

Not saying that fasting in general is bad though, I'm just skeptical about extended fasts.

He was perhaps the most influential hygienist (Natural Hygiene - today https://www.healthscience.org/) of the 20th century and was without question an ideologist of the movement. I disagree with the hygienic movement on many things, the major one being nutrition - they advocate for a plant based diet, which is certainly suboptimal for human health compared to a diet where the basis is formed by animal products. However, I don't think you'll find a better authority on fasting than Shelton, as he has supervised tens of thousands of fasts during his lifelong work as a hygienist. I discovered his books because they were repeatedly referenced in Seyfried's monograph Cancer as a metabolic disease. I'm interested in fasting purely for the sake of health and longevity, not for weight loss. When you're metabolically healthy, it it impossible to become fat.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

Arthritis is an auto-immune condition, that mostly appears later in life.

Osteoarthritis is because of physical wear and tear to the joints affected, often because age. However my knee arthritis is due to having dislocated my patella as a teenager and then again as an adult. I was warned it could develop early and I did. I mostly only feel it when the weather changes in the fall and spring or I spend too much time on it.

I made it 24 hours with my fast! I started to feel icky yesterday afternoon around four and had a small meal. I didn't eat today until about ten. Now I'm going to try to fast for another 24 hours.

 

[Derka Derka]

Osteoarthritis is because of physical wear and tear to the joints affected, often because age. However my knee arthritis is due to having dislocated my patella as a teenager and then again as an adult. I was warned it could develop early and I did. I mostly only feel it when the weather changes in the fall and spring or I spend too much time on it.

I'm not going to speculate on your personal issues/history.
Many people don't get excessive wear and tear/arthritis in their old age, regardless if they have been very active or sedentary (or genetic factors).
Out of my family tree, the ones suffering from arthritis are pretty randomly spread.
My mother and one of her sisters had it. But the other sisters/brothers didn't.
I used to have symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis as a kid. After a bunch of tests, the doctor said it was caused by a form of anemia, and I lacked iron.
The common factor is bad dieting, which means your body cannot repair/replace cartilage because you aren't getting the right nutrients. ... and also likely consuming food that is causing inflammation (especially in joints).

 

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Wait you can repair/replace cartilage? I thought once it's gone, it's gone.

 

[Omega Bruh Moment]

I'm not a woman, but I'm not a big guy either. Someone linked me a protein calculator in response to my original post and this is the amount it recommended I have for my age and build. I've been aiming for the upper end of this range just to be absolutely certain -- is that still not enough? 90g is a lot to keep up with as is.

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I'm a little late, but this is the perfect amount of protein for you, paired with a regular workout routine of course. Be sure to use a basal metabolic rate calculator as well.
This is where protein shakes come in as a godsend. While you shouldn't use it as your sole source of protein, you can get there much more easily through the shakes. I'd recommend getting some chocolate whey powder and adding some peanut butter into it along with whole milk. With 25g per scoop of protein, you can just double scoop and get yourself a nice helping (1-2 spoons) of peanut butter on top, and with that milk, you'll be at around 60-70g of protein from that alone.
1g of protein per 1lb of bodyweight like others have said is the ideal intake.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

I'm a little late, but this is the perfect amount of protein for you, paired with a regular workout routine of course. Be sure to use a basal metabolic rate calculator as well.
This is where protein shakes come in as a godsend. While you shouldn't use it as your sole source of protein, you can get there much more easily through the shakes. I'd recommend getting some chocolate whey powder and adding some peanut butter into it along with whole milk. With 25g per scoop of protein, you can just double scoop and get yourself a nice helping (1-2 spoons) of peanut butter on top, and with that milk, you'll be at around 60-70g of protein from that alone.
1g of protein per 1lb of bodyweight like others have said is the ideal intake.

Sure, I'll give the protein shakes a try. I have somewhat of an obsession with only eating ""natural"" foods but I don't think it's really helping me.

 

[Derka Derka]

Wait you can repair/replace cartilage? I thought once it's gone, it's gone.

It's like any other damaged soft tissue in the body. It can repair itself, depending on the amount of damage done to it.
Cartilage is avascular, but it does contain chondrocytes.
The key thing is if you have persistently inflamed joints it cannot repair itself, and it will deteriorate.

 

[Brahma]

Sure, I'll give the protein shakes a try. I have somewhat of an obsession with only eating ""natural"" foods but I don't think it's really helping me.

I can sympathise. I went through a similar phase but I'm trying to eat 180/190g of protein right now. Barely doable on natural own cooked foods but it at least means I don't want to look at food the rest of the day which is nice.

If I'm short, I use whey protein. I figure of the processed proteins it's probably the least processed. At least from my research it should pretty much just dehydrated cheese making whey and at most a bit of stabiliser/antifouling agents added.

 

[Bloo]

I haven’t posted in this thread for a while but I’m 20 pounds lighter than when I started keto last summer. I did quit for around two months for a few reasons but I’m back on it. I’m losing more weight this time around. I think I was eating too much excess fats and calories the first time.