Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[bacterium]

What if Nina actually was legal the whole time and just didn't have the documents on her (hence the person having to mail copies to AZ), but Greta knew she could use the situation to bleed more money from idiots, so she intentionally didn't come out and say this. This is the only situation I could see them dismissing the case for.

People have been bringing up the idea that Greta did this on purpose to get rid of Nina, but what if they both did this on purpose as a way to con money out of people? Or at least just took advantage of the situation. It seems right up the alley for a grifter like Greta. He makes up something dumb about marriage license issues, whines about trans and POC oppression, and the donations roll in. And of course he can't not be smug about it, so he sends some random troon to the farms to make sure we know he won - after all, Greta knows he has to lie low on Facebook now, maybe even fake a narrative about going to court in the future, or make something up about how everybody's activism got the case dismissed (but of course waiting for a while before doing so to keep the cash flow from suckers who think they have a long legal embroglio coming up). Maybe I'm missing something, but it doesn't seem out of Greta's character at all to try and pull something like this.

The case wasn't dismissed. She is out on bond. Big difference.
Unless the US government is out to scam troons out of on a few grand, too...

 

[BIG DADDY]

Had Nina not been detained, I'm sure we would have seen a "need to move back to Cali before Trump to keep Nina safe" fundraiser because we know that was their plan and their justification for moving. People would absolutely have donated to that so there was no real need to fabricate something.

Greta is a liar, but she's not a very sophisticated one. TLL is too beneficial to her to kill the golden goose for the sake of a few thousand dollars immediate money. It's just too easy for people in her circle who are already displeased to check into the story of Nina's detention and any ongoing case for it to be worth the risk.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. TLL supporters would rush to give money if Greta reported needing to get a splinter removed, so there's no reason to put themselves at legitimate risk. I wonder why one of their followers would come here to just blatantly lie about it getting dismissed, but I guess it's not the first time someone's come here to defend a cow and just ends up looking exceptional.

 

[Jaimas]

What if Nina actually was legal the whole time and just didn't have the documents on her (hence the person having to mail copies to AZ), but Greta knew she could use the situation to bleed more money from idiots, so she intentionally didn't come out and say this. This is the only situation I could see them dismissing the case for.

People have been bringing up the idea that Greta did this on purpose to get rid of Nina, but what if they both did this on purpose as a way to con money out of people? Or at least just took advantage of the situation. It seems right up the alley for a grifter like Greta. He makes up something dumb about marriage license issues, whines about trans and POC oppression, and the donations roll in. And of course he can't not be smug about it, so he sends some random troon to the farms to make sure we know he won - after all, Greta knows he has to lie low on Facebook now, maybe even fake a narrative about going to court in the future, or make something up about how everybody's activism got the case dismissed (but of course waiting for a while before doing so to keep the cash flow from suckers who think they have a long legal embroglio coming up). Maybe I'm missing something, but it doesn't seem out of Greta's character at all to try and pull something like this.

An interesting theory, but it doesn't hold up with what we know about Greta. She's already proven quite a few times that she fundraised for Nina, and if she legitimately had the paperwork, it'd have been no big deal for her to get Pajeet out of custody pretty quick, because she'd have been properly documented and on file. She fucking wasn't.

Also, we know that Greta's marriage to Pajeet isn't legit. Greta never divorced her previous spouse(s) out of a desire to get out of paying child support. All the arguing that Nina deserves to be here based on the fact that the pair is "married" is not based in reality given what we know about the pair already.

 

[repentance]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. TLL supporters would rush to give money if Greta reported needing to get a splinter removed, so there's no reason to put themselves at legitimate risk. I wonder why one of their followers would come here to just blatantly lie about it getting dismissed, but I guess it's not the first time someone's come here to defend a cow and just ends up looking exceptional.

The defender is a batshit person who believes that several of our threads are actual about them. Don't look for a rational explanation behind their actions. The "truth" is probably beamed into their mind by aliens.

Also, we know that Greta's marriage to Pajeet isn't legit. Greta never divorced her previous spouse(s) out of a desire to get out of paying child support. All the arguing that Nina deserves to be here based on the fact that the pair is "married" is not based in reality given what we know about the pair already.

We actually don't know that. We've speculated about it, but we have no proof either way regarding whether Greta got properly divorced after either of his marriages. It would be nice to find some, though.

 

[Maiden-TieJuan]

Also, we know that Greta's marriage to Pajeet isn't legit. Greta never divorced her previous spouse(s) out of a desire to get out of paying child support. All the arguing that Nina deserves to be here based on the fact that the pair is "married" is not based in reality given what we know about the pair already.

I thought that the first wife died of an overdose after their divorce, and the child was adopted by Greta's parents. Would that make all child support stop? How does that work in this situation? And the second wife IS still kicking around but IS divorced. Their son apparently sees and hears from Greta every once in a while, because his friend made that comment about Nina getting caught by border patrol ("My best friend's Step Mom just got arrested by the Border Patrol" or something?)

So would he even need a divorce certificate from his first wife as she is dead? Wouldn't he just need proof of death for that marriage? And for the second wife, shouldn't she have a copy of the divorce decree that he can request a copy of? Especially since the "Court house cant find it"?

 

[GS 281]

 

[repentance]

I thought that the first wife died of an overdose after their divorce, and the child was adopted by Greta's parents. Would that make all child support stop? How does that work in this situation? And the second wife IS still kicking around but IS divorced. Their son apparently sees and hears from Greta every once in a while, because his friend made that comment about Nina getting caught by border patrol ("My best friend's Step Mom just got arrested by the Border Patrol" or something?)

So would he even need a divorce certificate from his first wife as she is dead? Wouldn't he just need proof of death for that marriage? And for the second wife, shouldn't she have a copy of the divorce decree that he can request a copy of? Especially since the "Court house cant find it"?

The only marriage/divorce he mentioned needing to locate the paperwork for was the one with Marian. While she did die of an overdose, it wasn't until over a decade after they separated - his marriage to his son's mother would therefore not have been legal if he and Marian never divorced (very possible given that they led unconventional lives).

Chances are that he just couldn't be bothered putting in the effort to track it down, though. Once Nina was illegal then there was no real urgency to obtain it and it honestly doesn't sound like they researched the green card process prior to marrying. And if Nina is now claiming asylum then marital status/her relationship with Greta is irrelevant to that claim.

 

[NQ 952]

TL;DR: 6.67% of calls answered from September 12th 2016 to January 6th 2017

TLL Research: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IXcZj7Ip_kVnNMSUxFSzZvZUk
TLL Call Log: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IXcZj7Ip_kaW9ISjJZOE1SWDg

 

[Sissy Galvez]

What if Nina actually was legal the whole time and just didn't have the documents on her (hence the person having to mail copies to AZ), but Greta knew she could use the situation to bleed more money from idiots, so she intentionally didn't come out and say this. This is the only situation I could see them dismissing the case for.

People have been bringing up the idea that Greta did this on purpose to get rid of Nina, but what if they both did this on purpose as a way to con money out of people? Or at least just took advantage of the situation. It seems right up the alley for a grifter like Greta. He makes up something dumb about marriage license issues, whines about trans and POC oppression, and the donations roll in. And of course he can't not be smug about it, so he sends some random troon to the farms to make sure we know he won - after all, Greta knows he has to lie low on Facebook now, maybe even fake a narrative about going to court in the future, or make something up about how everybody's activism got the case dismissed (but of course waiting for a while before doing so to keep the cash flow from suckers who think they have a long legal embroglio coming up). Maybe I'm missing something, but it doesn't seem out of Greta's character at all to try and pull something like this.

They're both stupid con-artists but not that stupid.

They'd never risk actual legal trouble and exposure.

 

[August16]

TL;DR: 6.67% of calls answered from September 12th 2016 to January 6th 2017

TLL Research: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IXcZj7Ip_kVnNMSUxFSzZvZUk
TLL Call Log: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IXcZj7Ip_kaW9ISjJZOE1SWDg

Think there's a typo in your docx document. You write "Between September 12th 2016 and January 6th, 2016". Still amazing work <3

 

[Here to Lurk]

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So... they still are going to court, right?

 

[GS 281]

So... they still are going to court, right?

Probably

 

[m0rnutz]

What if Nina actually was legal the whole time and just didn't have the documents on her (hence the person having to mail copies to AZ), but Greta knew she could use the situation to bleed more money from idiots, so she intentionally didn't come out and say this. This is the only situation I could see them dismissing the case for.

People have been bringing up the idea that Greta did this on purpose to get rid of Nina, but what if they both did this on purpose as a way to con money out of people? Or at least just took advantage of the situation. It seems right up the alley for a grifter like Greta. He makes up something dumb about marriage license issues, whines about trans and POC oppression, and the donations roll in. And of course he can't not be smug about it, so he sends some random troon to the farms to make sure we know he won - after all, Greta knows he has to lie low on Facebook now, maybe even fake a narrative about going to court in the future, or make something up about how everybody's activism got the case dismissed (but of course waiting for a while before doing so to keep the cash flow from suckers who think they have a long legal embroglio coming up). Maybe I'm missing something, but it doesn't seem out of Greta's character at all to try and pull something like this.

Holy shit, dude. Usually I'm the one with the conspiracies.

 

[Lalala]

TL;DR: 6.67% of calls answered from September 12th 2016 to January 6th 2017

TLL Research: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IXcZj7Ip_kVnNMSUxFSzZvZUk
TLL Call Log: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IXcZj7Ip_kaW9ISjJZOE1SWDg

Fuck me sideways we could theoretically bring the kill count up to 85 with this, every single one of those calls could have ended in a suicide.
Excellent work dude.

 

[The Giver]

Holy shit this thread was a bitch to catchup on. I felt like for every page I read another three were posted. Semper fi to all are armed forces in this thread.

I personally hope we haven't seen the last of the deport Pajeet saga, since the response (from Greta and the broader ratking) to an actual deportation has the potential to be less a chimpout and more a thermonuclear explosion of anal anguish.

Whatever happens though, the laughs will continue to flow. Greta and company have proven to be a gold mine, and that will still be the case even if Nina somehow got off scot free (which stills seems unlikely). We win no matter what happens.

This is what cows like Greta fundamentally misunderstand about the Farms: we aren't an adversary because we do not engage, we have no agenda beyond laughing, and cannot be beaten. We aren't trying to make ourselves look good or convince anyone of anything or bring about any particular state of affairs, so there isn't any way to "beat" us. Greta posted that pic of Pajeet out of detention like it was getting one over on us, but the only response was "meh" and mocking how unspeakably ugly they are.

No matter what Greta does, no matter what happens with Pajeet or TLL, we will still be here laughing. And short of ending himself and going to the great Twitter feed in the sky, there is nothing Greta can do to stop us.

 

[Varis]

ANOMALY 1

Person identified location as “Dominos on Man O War” and was informed that this was a Dominos Pizza location in Lexington, KY.

Marked as Anomaly. Cannot confirm if this was a Trans Lifeline operator error or a PBX switching error.

Trans Lifeline: Now sponsored by Dominos.

There is a fat joke here, somewhere.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Probably

Without a doubt, there is no getting out of court when you are pursuing a defensive asylum claim. Nina's ability to stay or be deported is entirely dependent upon a decision made by an immigration judge.

There is no alternative but the courtroom with a defensive asylum claim.

 

[m0rnutz]

Domino's Pizza on Man-O-War Blvd, Lexington, Kentucky, University of Kentucky. Literally the first result.

This is why you stress to your volunteers not to use your workplace as a phone number, everyone.

 

[AnOminous]

I thought that the first wife died of an overdose after their divorce, and the child was adopted by Greta's parents. Would that make all child support stop?

No. You are obligated to support your children, period.

In fact, even if the kids and family go on welfare, the welfare agency can sue you to get that money back if you're a deadbeat dad, as Greta is.

 

[Axiom]

No. You are obligated to support your children, period.

This can't possibly be the case even if the parent legally relinquishes the child, and the child is formally adopted through the usual legal means. Otherwise every fifteen year old runaway who gives their child up for adoption would owe child support to the family that adopts the kid. Unless I'm missing something here...?

It's very likely that Greta's parents didn't formally adopt the girl - they maybe just took her in or got primary custody, which would of course still mean that Greta had to support her financially. We've seen how well Greta handles legal forms of any kind, so it's not impossible that there was never any actual adoption and she never actually gave up custody of the kid but rather just slogged her off on the grandparents and went off to go do whatever.