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Unpopular opinion/question:

What’s the “hype” about with M855? Don’t get me wrong, I have hundreds of rounds of the stuff stacked away in my stash, but now that I shoot steel targets, or I’ll still occasionally go to an indoor range, I just don’t shoot it as much. Should I just view/treat it the same way as the soft tip and hollow point .223 I have stacked? I.e: use in case of emergency?
 
Unpopular opinion/question:

What’s the “hype” about with M855? Don’t get me wrong, I have hundreds of rounds of the stuff stacked away in my stash, but now that I shoot steel targets, or I’ll still occasionally go to an indoor range, I just don’t shoot it as much. Should I just view/treat it the same way as the soft tip and hollow point .223 I have stacked? I.e: use in case of emergency?
Eh... it's not exactly armor piercing but it does have marginally better penetration than M193 for example. Some ranges will not let you use green tips though, so it might be an outdoor only kinda round for you.
 
What’s the “hype” about with M855?
some people wrongly think it's armor piercing or secret sauce military-only ammo. it's not. it's bog standard 5.56 small arms ammunition standardized across the US armed forces to work with the M16 rifle in multiple environments and conditions, be cheap enough in bulk to buy in billions of rounds, and enough quality to do the needed job of putting down people shooting at you from 600+ meters if you do your part. it also has mediocre light barrier penetration in case of drywall, doors, auto glass, fences, interior walls, shitty soft armor or hard "armor" of stacked sheet metal plates, et c. it's worse in some respects to the older M193, but in quantity (developed explicitly for the M249 SAW afterall) it's kind of a wash.

because it's the current issue, it's available in bulk quantities on the commercial market readily enough, and M193 is popular enough that you see it too, often a little cheaper. for militaries, M193 is more popular overseas than in the US at this point since it's easily produced in smaller scales with simpler equipment.
 
A1 upper, collapsible stock, 20" barrel, quadrail smothered in covers, standard birdcage, no optic
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Why is this guy torturing himself? I don't think the drip is worth the hassle if that's your idea of a patrol rifle. I can't diss him too badly because it's not far from my bump-in-the-night pike but still, very unexpected.
 
I’m starting to get both feet into the AR world and I’ve been looking at options for a future suppressor host build. I’m wondering if a 14.5” midlength would be adequate for a “one stamp” build.
 
If youre getting a stamp anyway just SBR the lower. Then you can put whatever you want on it.
I mostly wanted to do a one stamp build due to being lazy/impatient. I assumed that the quick NFA turnaround times only applied to suppressors and not to SBRs/SBS’. Otherwise yeah I’d probably just go ahead with a two-stamper
 
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14.5 is a nice sweet spot for 5.56 imo. Shorter lengths lose a fair bit of velocity, whereas you don’t gain much velocity by going back up to 16.
 
Anyone know of non-milsurps of a caliber larger than .22lr which are semiautomatic but do not have detachable box magazines? I know the modern BAR has a non detachable mag model specifically for markets like my own but besides Cali fixedmag AR lowers I can't really think of any other options.
 
Anyone know of non-milsurps of a caliber larger than .22lr which are semiautomatic but do not have detachable box magazines? I know the modern BAR has a non detachable mag model specifically for markets like my own but besides Cali fixedmag AR lowers I can't really think of any other options.
Ruger had the model 44 carbine in .44 mag which feeds from a 4 round tube magazine.
The coolest rifle on the market right now has to be the Cosmi Rigato though, it feeds from a 5 round tube magazine in the butt stock. Its got a cool and complicated action. its expensive, starting at 11k last i looked. it comes in .45-70 and .444 marlin.
its one of the few surviving janky 1st/2nd generation semi-auto guns around so its weird but it just works and its been in constant production since the 1920s.
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Here is the forgotten weapons video on the Cosmi shotgun which works the same way as the rifle.
 
What’s the “hype” about with M855?
There's hype? It has a penetrator pin inside the bullet which doesn't do it any favors in terms of consistency and accuracy. It is a round designed for the 20.5" barreled M249 to be able to penetrate the Cold War era steel Warsaw pact helmets at some distance (probably 600m). It's probably harder on steel targets and range back stops than other rounds, but so is any bullet that is travelling fast. An indoor range local to me first had a 'no green tip' rule, then people snuck it in and ruined a backstop that they had to rebuild. Then they started inspecting all ammo before you went on the range, and someone still destroyed a backstop. Then it was no outside rifle ammo, only what you could buy from the range. M193 goes through shit really good also because it is going so fast. It'll go right through 1/8-1/4" mild steel, no problem. Some types of hard armor plates are rated for M855, but not M193, the difference being the muzzle velocity.
wondering if a 14.5” midlength would be adequate for a “one stamp” build.
Sure would. 14.5 mid is a great al around set up. If you want to go suppressed, I would suggest looking at reduced gas port sizes to suite your uses.
Check out Sionics reduced gas ports
and all the barrels they have for sale
 
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I don't have the money this black friday, but assuming they do this sale again next year sometime, I am so getting this. Its a A3 clone, which is a A2, but with a detachable handle. Still has the bayonet lug and 20 inch barrel, sexy and retro as fuck, absolute peak aesthetics and performance. And as a entry rifle into the AR-15 platform, I think it would give me the least shit from PSA, considering it has the rifle length gas system and full buffer, not much to fuck up.
Pairs perfectly with a pink polo shirt and some beige slacks.
 
Why is this guy torturing himself?
might not be his choice. a lot of old military M16's or AR-15's were purchased by or given to law enforcement agencies nationwide and given how modular they are, they're just some new parts (complete upper, a collapsing stock) away from having an "M4". especially for agencies that would rather put that money to something else like training, additional officers, less than lethal gear, body armor, et c. a cheap aluminum quad rail and grip might be enough to get the job done well enough that it's not worth more money.
 
an A2-esque rifle with commercial AR-15 handguards (they're too thick compared to the actual A2's) and an A4's upper receiver and i guess small parts. don't think too hard on it. every rifle is an AK or AR-15/M16 , all handguns are glocks, et c to some people. so an AR-15 full-length rifle with a carry handle and handguards instead of rails is an "A2" from the distant before-times of 1982.
Good point. It is just a "A2", don't think hard on it, you're paying 600 bucks for it, nor thousands for a 100% accurate clone.
Ruger had the model 44 carbine in .44 mag which feeds from a 4 round tube magazine.
Yes they did and it was cool as fuck:
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Basically a massive Ruger 10/22, but with a tube mag.
The coolest rifle on the market right now has to be the Cosmi Rigato though, it feeds from a 5 round tube magazine in the butt stock. Its got a cool and complicated action. its expensive, starting at 11k last i looked. it comes in .45-70 and .444 marlin.
its one of the few surviving janky 1st/2nd generation semi-auto guns around so its weird but it just works and its been in constant production since the 1920s.
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Here is the forgotten weapons video on the Cosmi shotgun which works the same way as the rifle.
I want one but my wallet knows just by looking at it that a boutique semi auto 45-70 is too rich for me lol.
Pairs perfectly with a pink polo shirt and some beige slacks.
Damn straight.
might not be his choice. a lot of old military M16's or AR-15's were purchased by or given to law enforcement agencies nationwide and given how modular they are, they're just some new parts (complete upper, a collapsing stock) away from having an "M4". especially for agencies that would rather put that money to something else like training, additional officers, less than lethal gear, body armor, et c. a cheap aluminum quad rail and grip might be enough to get the job done well enough that it's not worth more money.
Probably what happened. Personally I like that he's just rocking it completely stock. He could mount a scope on the handle, completely possible, but nope, he's just like, "fuck technology, irons baby". May just be because of his PD like you suggest, but idk, it warms my heart those old rifles are still getting use.
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I found out Smith offers 8 shot 357 magnums, notably the 327 series. That is officially in 1911 with 8 round mag territory, holy shit.
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Way too much, though they're using shit like scandium and I think titanium in the frames to keep the weight down, since they used a 44 magnum frame to get the capacity. Smith, I'm begging, make one in the $999 ish range, just all blued steel, nothing fancy other than 8 shots, it'd sell like crazy.
 
I’m starting to get both feet into the AR world and I’ve been looking at options for a future suppressor host build. I’m wondering if a 14.5” midlength would be adequate for a “one stamp” build.
You have many good options. I think BCM makes an excellent upper for a decent price in their MK2 14.5" ELW. They offer it in a non-pinned version if you want to not give a fuck about what Satanic pedophiles think your natural rights should be limited to more easily switch muzzle devices depending on what suppressor you want to use. Then you can pin and weld it like a law-abiding citizen, which is what all posters in this thread are guaranteed to be.

Whatever you decide on, I'd recommend ensuring it has some type of adjustable gas system. Not a strict requirement but definitely makes things easier. Lots of good options there too.
 
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