US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[CaddestSlown]

Western society has grown too afraid of being mean. Meanwhile, the rest of the world will be horrendously mean and laugh at you if you have a problem with it.

Our society is too concerned with being “nice”. Who do you vote for? The one who is the nicest, of course! Why do you like that person? Oh uh, he’s nice. No real personality traits, no other reasons. As the Indians say, the one who actually does the needful is liked the least.

I think we would have less of a need to BE mean and brutally honest if open and unpunished language were allowed to happen.

The snuffing out of anger and wrong thought only bottles it up in private spaces or makes it smolder in silence.

I wouldn't even be here if it didn't feel like my most minor of dissenting opinions against the zeitgeist implanted in ANY HOBBY OR INTERNET SUBCULTURE would get me assblasted in my friend circles. It's only made me more resentful.

Yeah, sure, people can call me an autistic faggot here, but people can call me an autistic faggot here, ya' dig? That's beautiful shit.

The dissent against MAGA has many forms. On one hand, we have funny forum wrestling superstars who people like to poke, and on the other hand, a lot of people who just don't like it. A lot of the people who just don't like it are autistic faggots.

Make America Mean Fun Again! Honk honk!

What's going on with Destiny? Out of the loop on this week's stuff. Did he get caught with Fuentes or something?

He and Nick Fuentes did the two dude tango and put it on film.

 

[FMW13]

What's going on with Destiny? Out of the loop on this week's stuff. Did he get caught with Fuentes or something?

He went down on him at a construction site. He was wearing a bikers outfit while doing it.

 

[Calandrino]

He went down on him at a construction site. He was wearing a bikers outfit while doing it.

Pitching, not catching?

 

[los pepes]

Canada would never be annexed as a single state, it would be split into at least 4, likely 6 different states. It would need to be done to try and create at least 1 solid of each party and one swing, but doing so would still leave too little room to properly place the new areas under control so more likely 6 would be created to balance the shit canadians from the ok canadians and not just create a blue blob up north.

It would likely look something like this:

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I would rather just make them a territory with no national voting rights. We can turn them into our own Siberia where we exile our malcontents and freaks. Hell we can set up suicide camps in the northern wastes and anyone that steps out of line gets "deported to the north".

In fact why even stop at Canada? We have just as much right to Greenland as Canada. Our ultimate manifest destiny is north, not west.

 

[Potatoherder]

I am personally more disturbed about the stories around Lindsay than i am about Hegseth.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1864034976989082080

https://archive.fo/6Kmor

 

[Useful_Mistake]

A Georgia judge ruled Fani Willis has to turn over all communication she had with Jack Smith and the January 6th committee.

Bro, provide sources next time.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/fani-willis-in-default/

https://megalodon.jp/2024-1204-0510-07/https://www.judicialwatch.org:443/fani-willis-in-default/

Speaking of Willis:

https://nypost.com/2024/12/03/us-news/trump-prosecutor-fani-willis-dealt-major-blow-after-jury-acquits-2-defendants-in-massive-ysl-trial/

https://megalodon.jp/2024-1204-0513-01/https://nypost.com:443/2024/12/03/us-news/trump-prosecutor-fani-willis-dealt-major-blow-after-jury-acquits-2-defendants-in-massive-ysl-trial/

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Speaking of Willis:

Young Slime Life?

Are they a gang or a Dragon Quest isekai?

 

[Fishmalk Observer]

Pitching, not catching?

It's like ive been STABBED IN THE HA-ART

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

I'm pretty sure we can take over Canada
not the USA, I just mean the US Politics General Thread

This is funny but could be literally accurate. Most of the citizenry is autistically anti-gun and the only military assets left that Trudeau hasn't donated to the Ukraine are like 4 canoes, a couple of Ford Model T's, a hot air balloon and a flying squirrel.

Whether it's well advised is a whole other conversation. The Greater Toronto Area and Hamilton alone have become such overcrowded shitholes that there are a good quarter million chronic homeless who will immediately haul ass down to shit all over the streets of Texas, Florida, or another southern state without 6 month winters that get down to -40. Governor Trudeau will probably buy them Greyhound tickets to head down there. Not to mention the millions of other white-collar retards who will move to nice low-crime low-cost areas and bring their faggoty politics with them because they don't understand cause and effect.

I'm not just discouraging this because I have way too much fun flexing my American citizenship on people up here, I swear

 

[Sammich]

I'm not sure I buy the idea that GWB was a RINO because he did push some pretty conservative stuff like the Federal Marriage Amendment.

People use RINO and neocon as interchangeable. They are not, RINO is a pretty vague term, has no real basis. Neocon is a very well defined term, mostly pro war profting and very interventional foreign policy. Domestically it carries little meaning. Paleocon is its opposite, but it doesn't really get used a ton, it's pre MAGA MAGA, basically. MAGA is more jewish friendly, but only because of the overrepresentation of jews being neocons, and paleocons getting labelled as anti semitic. Irving Kristol (Bill's dad) is considered the godfather of neocons, and the jewish influence can't be overlooked. that's why you'll hear some of the folks most critical of jews and jewish power call it as such. I think it's more not all neocons are jews, but most jews are neocons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol

Pat Buchanan was the standard bearer of paleocons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

The Patriot Act.

Proposing constitutional amendments that have a 0% chance of passing so the voters will think they're on our side, while actually passing piles of bullshit we hate, is a standard Republican political trick.

Very fair points.

THere are plenty of good canadians, but they don,t announce themselves as such because they know how fucking shitty canada is.

You have my sympathies, sir.

 

[clipartfan92]

Thousands of Federal Employees Land Work From Home Deal Ahead of Trump
Bloomberg (archive.ph)
By Josh Eidelson
2024-12-03 19:47:50GMT

Spoiler

A Biden administration appointee has agreed to lock in hybrid work protections for tens of thousands of Social Security staff, part of a slew of organized labor efforts that complicate President-elect Donald Trump's efforts to reshape the federal workforce.

The American Federation of Government Employees, a union representing 42,000 Social Security Administration workers, reached an agreement with the agency last week that will protect telework until 2029 in an updated contract, according to a message to its members viewed by Bloomberg.

The new deal, signed by President Joe Biden’s just-departed SSA Commissioner Martin O’Malley, will let workers “maintain current levels of telework,” AFGE chapter president Rich Couture wrote.

Under those current arrangements, in-office requirements range from two to five days per week, varying by job, according to people familiar who spoke on condition of anonymity because the new agreement has not been publicized.

“This deal will secure not just telework for SSA employees, but will secure staffing levels through prevention of higher attrition, which in turn will secure the ability of the Agency to serve the public,” Couture wrote.

An AFGE spokesperson declined to elaborate on the message. A SSA spokesperson confirmed the independent agency “memorialized its preexisting telework policy in its contract with AFGE,” and noted that managers can still make temporary changes based on operational needs or performance issues.

Unions have been pushing the outgoing Biden administration to extend existing collective bargaining agreements with federal workers in advance of Trump's inauguration next month, according to people familiar with the discussions who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. Some union leaders are urging the current White House team to issue an executive order calling for such moves.

A federal Office of Management and Budget spokesperson declined to comment.

Trump has asked billionaire Elon Musk and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy to lead a new task force aimed at cutting government spending and streamlining operations called the "Department of Government Efficiency." Musk and Ramaswamy have said they plan to cull the federal workforce and eliminate work-from-home policies.

“Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome,” they wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed last month.

The Trump transition team declined to comment directly on the union contracts.

“Under President Trump’s leadership, the Government Efficiency effort led by Vivek and Elon will target waste and fraud throughout our massive federal bureaucracy,” spokesperson Brian Hughes said. “They will work together slashing excess regulations, cutting wasteful expenditures, and restructuring Federal Agencies.”

Organized labor represents over a million federal government employees, and AFGE is the largest federal worker union. Legally-binding union contracts, which dictate terms on working conditions, can be amended during, or extended beyond, their existing timeframes.

While they don’t supersede federal law, contract terms can restrict agencies’ discretion over how to manage their staff.

AFGE members at the Environmental Protection Agency in May ratified a contract with management that includes new “scientific integrity” safeguards meant to protect their ability to discuss their work with the media and report alleged scientific misconduct without suffering from retaliation. Attorneys at the Department of Justice have been organizing with another group, the National Treasury Employees Union, trying to secure union recognition before Biden leaves office.

Collective bargaining agreements may not deter Trump, Musk or Ramaswamy, who have signaled they plan to challenge precedents limiting executive authority. But reneging on a contract could lead to protracted legal disputes, as well as protests and pushback from lawmakers.

A US president "can't just set aside lawfully signed collective bargaining agreements, without the unions' agreement," Indiana University law professor Kenneth G. Dau-Schmidt said via email. "The US government has to live up to its agreements, too."

 

[nigel p poppycock]

tbh, I was kinda low-key bragging that I've been to both

I need a jealousy sticker.

Hegseth--unless something else has come out and I'm missing it, he's a basic playboy chad that still has a cleaner private life than most of congress who are purity in the front and debauchery in the back. No reason not to approve him, except if you want our military to keep circling the toilet.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Young Slime Life?

Are they a gang or a Dragon Quest isekai?

I Was A Thug Who Got DriveBy-ed And Now Me And My Homies Are A Gang Of Slimes

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I Was A Thug Who Got DriveBy-ed And Now Me And My Homies Are A Gang Of Slimes

I'd read it.

Edit - Aaron McGruder's free these days right? He could put that together.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I need a jealousy sticker.

Hegseth--unless something else has come out and I'm missing it, he's a basic playboy chad that still has a cleaner private life than most of congress who are purity in the front and debauchery in the back. No reason not to approve him, except if you want our military to keep circling the toilet.

"We have a massive recruiting shortage! How do we get more troops???"
"Why don't we treat the soldiers we currently have like absolute dogshit, especially persecute the white males, and force everyone to do corporate globohomo training seminars more than PT or training related to their MOS?"
"BRILLIANT!"

There is a reason that civilian intelligence members are usually smarter than military intelligence officers.

 

[Betonhaus]

Canada would never be annexed as a single state, it would be split into at least 4, likely 6 different states. It would need to be done to try and create at least 1 solid of each party and one swing, but doing so would still leave too little room to properly place the new areas under control so more likely 6 would be created to balance the shit canadians from the ok canadians and not just create a blue blob up north.

It would likely look something like this:

View attachment 6710906

Wouldn't each province enter as its own state, or be considered an unincorporated territory like Puerto Rico?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Canada would never be annexed as a single state, it would be split into at least 4, likely 6 different states. It would need to be done to try and create at least 1 solid of each party and one swing, but doing so would still leave too little room to properly place the new areas under control so more likely 6 would be created to balance the shit canadians from the ok canadians and not just create a blue blob up north.

It would likely look something like this:

View attachment 6710906

Nah. They get to be a non voting territory for at least 100 years until they homogonize with the rest of the US. That includes getting the French in there to stop being French. Teach the savages some fucking English

 

[CryptoHermit]

Substack chuds have been posting FUD on the deportions too citing Trump's past amnesty (and Indian client groups...)
Trump's Second Term: What To Expect On Immigration

Donald Trump came to prominence in 2016 by running on a hardline anti-immigration platform. In his initial run, Trump centered a promise to build a wall on the US-Mexican border and emphasized a 10-point-plan to detailing the mechanisms he planned to use to embark on an unprecedented campaign to deport all illegal aliens residing in America. In one September 2016 speech, Trump swore he would order the removal of millions of migrants in his first hour in office.

A week after winning the election, Trump immediately began distancing himself from his own words. In an interview with 60 Minutes as president-elect, Trump reduced the target of his immigration rhetoric to aliens who had committed serious crimes. After four years in office, he wasn’t even able to accomplish this narrowed objective.

As president, Trump’s immigration record was abysmal, effectively deporting fewer criminal aliens than the previous Obama administration, all while inflows of illegal migrant crossings remained steady.

After a year of squawking like an immigration hawk, Trump struck a Reaganite tone once he settled into the White House. In one 2018 episode, Trump offered his hard won political capital as cover for a bipartisan amnesty bill that would potentially legalize millions of illegals, reportedly telling Senator Lindsay Graham, “If you want to take it that further step, I’ll take the heat.”

A year later, as re-election approached, Trump provoked his base into a frenzy by offering the Democrats a DACA extension in exchange for a small amount of funding for the promised border wall his administration and Republican congressmen had been procrastinating on delivering.

Towards the end of Trump’s presidency, Jared Kushner and Trump designed a plan for a “Canadian-style” immigration system that would serve as an alternative to the status quo. Canada’s immigration system, which is effectively a bureaucratically formalized version of open borders, has induced a furious backlash against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who in turn has been forced to embrace measures that turn away foreigners just to maintain national stability.

Voting majorities in all countries in the world consistently vote for fewer immigrants when it is offered. Polls taken earlier this year show that the majority of Americans support mass deportations, and Trump — along with down ballot Republicans — have once again enthusiastically vowed to satisfy this popular demand.

Trump’s 2024 immigration plan, a rehash of his 2016 campaign proposal, would require defying activist federal courts, billionaire donors, and securing tens of billions or hundreds of billions from the purse of a broadly pro-immigration US Congress. In other words, it is a throwaway campaign lie.

Far more likely in a second Trump term is an immigration amnesty akin to Ronald Reagan’s 1986 Simpson-Mazoli Act, which legalized the status of practically all illegal migrants in America in exchange for largely unfulfilled border security concessions.

There is evidence that this was Trump’s plan for his second term all along. Weeks before the 2020 election, the Heritage Foundation released an outline of what Trump’s immigration priorities would be if he were to be re-elected. In it, Lora Ries of the think-tank’s Border Security and Immigration Center confidently forecasted,

“In a second term, President Trump would pursue merit-based immigration reform with Congress, navigate rescinding DACA while negotiating an amnesty with Congress (for anywhere from 800,000 to up to 11 million illegal aliens), and continue to secure the border in the face of strong COVID-economy immigration push factors.”

The political pressures that kept Trump from selling out his base on immigration during his first administration will not exist this time around. Fears of a primary challenge from an anti-immigration candidate to his right or losing a national election are now moot. If currently available exit polls are correct, the paleo-conservative fearmongering of America transforming into a one-party Democrat state has been refuted by Trump’s massive inroads with minority voters during this election cycle, witnessed in his commanding victories in states such as Florida and Texas.

Conservative media outlets that previously held Trump’s feet to the fire, such as Steve Bannon’s Breitbart or Fox News era Tucker Carlson Tonight, are no longer threats. Serious immigration restrictionists such as Ann Coulter, Kris Kobach, Steve King, and Jeff Sessions, who played an enormous role in Trump’s 2016 white identitarian campaign, have been dumped in favor of self-serving opportunists and social liberals such as Elon Musk, RFK Jr, and Joe Rogan, all who either back massively expanding the legal immigration system or support granting illegal aliens a pathway to citizenship.

Republicans are expected to have majorities in both the Senate and possibly the House. In the Senate, the favored candidates to replace Mitch McConnell as majority leaders — Rick Scott, John Thune, and John Cornyn — are among the most pro-amnesty, pro-immigration Republicans in Washington.

If the Republicans hold on to their majority in the House, Mike Johnson is favored to lead for another term. Last summer, Johnson was provided an opportunity to leverage Ukraine aid in exchange for funding towards immigration enforcement, yet he refused, with Trump’s blessing. Yesterday, Laura Ingraham grilled Johnson on his immigration plans, even going so far as to accuse him of plotting an amnesty.

In his debate with Sam Harris, Ben Shapiro — a Never Trumper who is now a Trump insider — confirmed that the president-elect’s mass deportation promise is an empty campaign fib. Illegal aliens have told journalists that they don’t believe Trump will deport them, while Venezuelan border crossers, who have been the subject of controversy throughout the Western Hemisphere in recent years due to their higher levels of criminality, are some of Trump’s biggest supporters, citing his 2021 Deferred Enforced Departure memo that made them impossible to deport.

The incentive structure points to Trump potentially being worse on immigration in his second term compared to his first. The MAGA movement of 2024 is largely an apolitical celebrity cult, granting Trump a free hand to broker an immigration deal a Democratic president could only dream of.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Isn't Pakman the guy that tweeted out his confusion over all the squares and rectangles east of Denver?