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I admit I hear horror stories of socialized healthcare in other countries, (Canada just tells you to kill yourself) but holy fuckballs private health insurance can be awful.

Bet the CEO of Aetna is locking his doors this morning.

Canadian health care just doesn't tell you to kill yourself they help you to kill yourself. They will happily send a nurse to give you a death injection.
 
This is what really scares me about Biden pardoning his son. I hope it gets challenged and overturned or something, because we absolutely do not want it to be a normal thing in the US that presidents blanket pardon everyone on their side before leaving office.
The good ending would be getting challenged on the basis of biden not being mentally competant to issue such a pardon. This would be especially good because it has downstream effects for the congress critters who now have a political incentive to be lucid enough that their legitimacy cant be called into question.
 
The good ending would be getting challenged on the basis of biden not being mentally competant to issue such a pardon. This would be especially good because it has downstream effects for the congress critters who now have a political incentive to be lucid enough that their legitimacy cant be called into question.
What is very likely to happen is Congress will pass restrictions on presidential pardoning power.
 
What is very likely to happen is Congress will pass restrictions on presidential pardoning power.
It would take a constitutional amendment unless the Supreme Court is going to play "tortured rulings" games. Pardon power is a constitutional power granted to the executive. They can pass a law saying Presidents cant veto too if they like too.
 
What is very likely to happen is Congress will pass restrictions on presidential pardoning power.
That could easily require constitutional amendments, and I just don't think the energy is there for that.

The only other way is to force it through the courts by attempting to weasel word it.

More likely, they all try to grab pardons.
 
The Department Education original remit and mandate was to push racial equity practices. If you support its existence, you support racial equity practices. It sounds like what you really want is a "Department of Educational Standards" that would work to guarantee baseline level of education in all federally funded schools. That is NOT what the DoE does, and if you want a department to do that, you should get rid of the current DoE and create that one. You are going against the well developed entity as it stands to try and make it, and it will be challenging to go against the "DNA" of the organization to make it do that.
can you give me a source for this?
 
can you give me a source for this?
The Department of Education was created by Andrew Johnson, but was basically useless until Jimmy Carter made it a cabinet-level bureau. Since Carter, eliminating racial discrimination is part of its mandate by enforcing Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Link here, if you're interested.
 
can you give me a source for this?
Nigger do your own research. But here is an easy "neutral" link if you can read between lines.


The seeds were planted by Johnson "President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, a law that provided funding to support equal access to education, in 1965". Equal access is code word for "helping niggers" just fyi. The department itself was created by Carter.

So yes the fruit of Johnson and Carter is about niggers and race bullshit.
 
It was generally agreed that while a President technically can pardon anyone for anything so long as its a federal offense, he 'could not' do so for someone close to him.
I know that Hunter's pardon is much more broad and insulting, even beyond Nixon's pardon (which was completely justified IMO), but I don't understand how Biden did something that hasn't been done before. Clinton pardoned his retard brother, why was that different?
 
Clinton pardoned his retard brother, why was that different?
i think its the broad immunity for such an extensive period AFTER SPECIFCALLY SAYING REPEATEDLY HE WOULD NOT DO THIS that makes it beyond the pale.

as ive said before, good for biden his buddies in the DNC would rather hunter get fucked in the ass to "Get drumpf" and keep crying about how THEY care about the rule of law. I am glad biden has agreed with trump that the biden doj is wack
 
This is what really scares me about Biden pardoning his son. I hope it gets challenged and overturned or something, because we absolutely do not want it to be a normal thing in the US that presidents blanket pardon everyone on their side before leaving office.

What is very likely to happen is Congress will pass restrictions on presidential pardoning power.

As mentioned, it is a Constitutional power that they cannot meaningfully restrict. The heart of the issue is two-fold:
1) The executive would be less corrupt, making pardons completely unnecessary.
2) There was a tradition, a gentleman's agreement, to not use the executive/federal prosecution power for political ends, or attacking the departing political party, which made pardons for family members unnecessary.

There used to be a sense of decorum and fair play, to either avoid obvious criminality or if done bury it with resignations and cover-ups. This is why despite some very scandalous administrations (Grant) there hasn't been this type of pardon done before. In this case its the President's son doing extremely obvious, odious open crimes that shock in nature (sex stuff) and scope (massive foreign bribes) combined with an administration that has broken the covenant and used the DOJ to go after their political rivals.

Just like when the Supreme Court tried to sort out presidential immunity, its a problem that can be traced to immoral people trying to deconstruct everything to attain power, and doing to clumsily. As the quote goes, Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other . It falls apart when unscrupulous marxist lizard people try to game the system.
 
I know that Hunter's pardon is much more broad and insulting, even beyond Nixon's pardon (which was completely justified IMO), but I don't understand how Biden did something that hasn't been done before. Clinton pardoned his retard brother, why was that different?
Roger Clinton's pardon was for a 1985 charge of conspiracy to distribute a single gram of cocaine which he served over a year in prison for and so the pardon was after the fact. The Charles Kushner case is a similar story where he served time before receiving a presidential pardon. Hunter Biden by comparison was saved from prison by his dad, that is why this is different and makes it an unusual unprecedented moment.
 
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I know that Hunter's pardon is much more broad and insulting, even beyond Nixon's pardon (which was completely justified IMO), but I don't understand how Biden did something that hasn't been done before. Clinton pardoned his retard brother, why was that different?

It's different because

1. Most PotUS pardon come after you've served the time. Most not all
2. This is the first time any PotUS has done the "any and all crimes for a full 11 year period" shtick. While that power to give a blanket pardon has always existed it hasn't be used to this extent before so it's raising some eyebrows

And we know more pardons are coming. The rumor is that Biden will pardon all his family members, everyone one of them was onboard the Big Guy gravy train" so that Trump and his DoJ will be fully neutered when it comes to investigating the Ukraine slush fund shit.

Chances are Biden will sign a whole ream of pardons in Jan to ensure all his loose ends are covered. As far as we know, which is just the tip of the iceberg, the Biden family earn over 28 million in less then a year from "various" sources.

That's some impressive graft even for a Democrat and pushed the boundary a little too far. Taking money from lobbyists is one thing but whole sale accepting bribes from China and using war funds going to Ukraine as a personal bank account is another.

The other elites are angry because Biden's greed and stupidity is putting them all at risk now. If Trump's DoJ and FBI really starts to dig into all the shit the Uniparty griftersd got up to in the last 4 years...well there are going to be a lot more suicides found in suitcases if you catch my drift.
 
Roger Clinton's pardon was for a 198 charge of conspiracy to distribute a single gram of cocaine which he served over a year in prison for and so the pardon was after the fact. Charles Kushner case is a similar story where he served time before receiving a presidential pardon. Hunter Biden by comparison was saved from prison by his dad, that is why this is different and makes it an unusual unprecedented moment.
Also most pardons are for specific acts and events. I am not sure if "10 year blanket immunity for all federal crimes" has been done before.
 
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