Call of Duty Thread - Potential return to form? Or nothing but cope on the horizon? You decide!

[Scream Aim Fire]

@30+GameOvers Funny thing about Vanguard;

Spoiler: Sperging

There was a YouTuber who did a few videos about how historically accurate the WW2 CoD games were. Surprisingly, WaW was technically the least accurate, having a surprisingly high amount of missed details, though the vast majority of those were fairly minor; i.e., wrong tank or plane models, uniform inaccuracies, weapon details, that sort of thing. That said, the actual feel and designs of the game were still pretty solid, and it was noted to be an excellent portrayal of the conflict; the Russian-German conflict was praised for pointing out just how fucked the whole thing was, in particular. Put simply, it was least accurate in finer details, but by far the most accurate in terms of grittiness and tone.

Meanwhile, Vanguard was noted to be a little better with the finer details... but the VAST majority of the larger details, such as the portrayal of Stalingrad, the characterization of just about every character, the Nazis in general, etc., were all noted to be outright fake. While a number of smaller points were decent, such as some gun designs, the entire rest of the game was noted to be more of a blatant propaganda piece made by woketards. Special mention goes to the all-black military unit in the Japanese missions; they were a real albeit obscure unit, but they were more used for a labor source and their few combat missions were noted for having VERY high casualty rates from a general lack of combat training, in comparison to Vanguard which tries to portray them as this black ops unit (no pun intended) led by a sociopathic asshole. Also, the relations between the British and Australians; in-game, the Brits are all pompous assholes, while IRL they were VERY fond of their Australian allies, to the point where I'm pretty sure at least one guy moved there after it was all over.

Funny how a game that was touted as "historically accurate" ended up demonizing everyone, including the people it was supposedly praising.

Anyways, sorry for sperging; just a bit of a WW2 nerd, here.

To throw in my two cents about the current CoD series; I will say that MW2019 was probably the most fun out of all of them, but I still find it to be pretty damn boring nowadays. Like, it's not a bad game, but the focus on Warzone drained a LOT of the fun out of it, and the rest of the games afterwards just continued going downhill. Cold War was dull, Vanguard was the worst game I've played, MWII was boring, MWIII was only fun as long as you'd could stomach nonstop Shipment. Not even sure about grabbing BO6 right now, honestly; the Warzone integration just keeps fucking everything over. Especially with just how much crap I have to download just to play the damn games...

As for the two games between IW and Warzone's bitches; BO4 was fun for a while, but it definitely got draining... especially when you notice that the game is surprisingly woke (the one black guy being ridiculously overpowered, Battery looking like a dike, frequent comments on Capitalism in Zombies, the Militia map about a black ops unit icing a bunch of stereotypical right-wingers that're covertly backed by Russia, etc.). Meanwhile, WWII... the Campaign and Zombies just felt boring, and I wanted to enjoy the Multiplayer, but political crap like the Germans getting shafted in the customization department and the gender flag calling cards all got tiring, to say nothing of the actual gameplay. Granted, I do want to make one last shot at that game, but...

 

[30+GameOvers]

As for the two games between IW and Warzone's bitches; BO4 was fun for a while, but it definitely got draining... especially when you notice that the game is surprisingly woke

BO4 isn't "woke", the black guy is OP because the game has been in developmental hell for years and been thru at least 3 different iterations before it became what it is. The game still had advanced movement up to the last minute, even in it's current modern warfare iteration. I guarantee you his ability was less OP when you could exo jump or wall run. Hell, the game didn't even have killstreaks until 11th hour, that's why they're so disgustingly OP: They literally didn't have the time to balance them.
Zombies doesn't have mentions of capitalism from what I remember, aside from maybe some Nikolai lines(he's a literal communist) and the Titanic map(decadent rich, okay whatever it fits). There is no woke elements in Zombies, that's like one part of the game that is actually relatively untouched by modern day game cancer. Every single multiplayer map was based off single player at one point, just like every other COD game, except the campaign for BO4 was scrapped. At least twice. For all we know, the Russian map had nothing to do with politics and they were a minor side-faction like OpFor or various militias in Modern Warfare games. We will never know, since the leaks didn't go in-depth with the story, only detailing some missions. The cutscenes in the training mode are literally the last remnants of this cut single player mode, along with flavor text for the multiplayer maps.
There is no reason to windmill chase(or the right wing equivalent of it) when the game doesn't have enough substance to make it matter. There wasn't enough thought put into most parts of it to intentionally even ruin it, the game was pretty much dead from the start.
Battery and the rest of characters do look ugly as fuck, I will give you that.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

From Call of Duty to Clown on Duty, RIP.

 

[30+GameOvers]

From Call of Duty to Clown on Duty, RIP.

I'm not going to tell you "I told you so", but I told you so

I knew this franchise was going down the tubes when I saw this, all the way back in 2014(early 2015?). Cosmetics have only been getting worse since. There were people who supported this BTW, which doesn't sound surprising now, but boy was it a wake up call back then to how much cattle is in this fandom.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

MW 2019 basically placed COD back on top of the map and was relevant again. Fortnite was killing it badly, the games still sold the most of the year but sold less and less compared to the previous years COD. 2019 was the stim shot it needed and its success basically allowed them to go back to bad habits again.

Seriously, we are reliving time lines now

>MW2019/COD4 - A modern day FPS that utterly changes the landscape of FPS games

>Weird Treyarch game that has its fans World At War/Cold War but the COD4/MW2019 fans did not care for it also throw in a strange WW2 release for some reason

>Sequel to highly anticipated game doesnt quite have the same power like the original but is a big deal for a bit MW2/MWII

>Its sequel is made by a developer that kinda throws shit at the wall to see what sticks people either love it or despise it MW3/MWIII

>Treyarch game that is considered the second coming of Christ for some reason? BO2/BO6

Basically tldr infinity ward will save us again in 2030

cod have gone woke, its always online, even for the single player, and the game disc is a coaster with nothing on it but a install file. there will be no saving for cod in 2030.

 

[The Last Stand]

Okay, I want to say this out loud for people that say it's JUST A VIDEO GAME and "muh historical accuracy" from what @Scream Aim Fire posted about WaW and Vanguard.

There was a YouTuber who did a few videos about how historically accurate the WW2 CoD games were. Surprisingly, WaW was technically the least accurate, having a surprisingly high amount of missed details, though the vast majority of those were fairly minor; i.e., wrong tank or plane models, uniform inaccuracies, weapon details, that sort of thing. That said, the actual feel and designs of the game were still pretty solid, and it was noted to be an excellent portrayal of the conflict; the Russian-German conflict was praised for pointing out just how fucked the whole thing was, in particular. Put simply, it was least accurate in finer details, but by far the most accurate in terms of grittiness and tone.

There's nothing wrong with taking creative liberties with historical fiction either to progress a story, time/research limitations, rule of cool. I'm sure nobody noticed or cared of the historical inaccuracies that WaW or Black Ops 1 had because the sum of its parts allowed for an engaging, believable experience.

Vanguard deliberately revised WWII history to push an agenda spearheaded from the inside out. It couldn't even commit to a WWII setting thanks to its superhero like characters and futuristic weapons added to multiplayer.

 

[iceteayo]

cod have gone woke, its always online, even for the single player, and the game disc is a coaster with nothing on it but a install file. there will be no saving for cod in 2030.

Making Black Ops 4 and then making Modern Warfare 2019 is one of the most insane come backs in COD history in my opinion

 

[The Last Stand]

Another CoD Youtuber "being done" with Black Ops 6. They mention the battle pass loyalty bonus and desync issues.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I'm catching up on older BT videos on Black Ops 6 right now. What I am seeing is...not good.
Who the fuck was actually, unironically excited for this? This looked mid at first glance but even a cursory glance makes Cope War look like a competently made product. Looks like adding out of place shootdodging DIDN'T save the game, who would have thought?
lol, lmao even. Old Treyarch is dead, SHG are, well...

All we have left are Infinity Ward, and their last game was pure garbage. COD is indeed dead, Crowbcat is right.

 

[The Last Stand]

It's rather interesting how after the playerbase exposed how XP is divided between maps and modes, Treyarch announces a "battle pass loyalty program" that increases your XP turnout when you buy battle passes. You have to PAY to get more XP.

 

[iceteayo]

Am I the only that that doesn't like Black Ops II like that?

Raul Mendenez is an interesting villain, love that they provided him with a backstory unlike MW's villains. To me, the story makes no sense when it goes to the future. The Strike Force missions are tedious to go through. Multiplayer is serviceable. Zombies only improved from DLC; TranZit was a slog to proceed through.

Raul is a shit villain, I understand making a villain one step ahead but Raul is an anime tier villain of absurd angles. He’s a drug lord by 16 with connections everywhere, he out smarts the CIAs best black ops soldiers, and then grows up to be a giga hacker in 2026?! Im not even mentioning his giga rage powers either.

 

[The Last Stand]

Raul is a shit villain, I understand making a villain one step ahead but Raul is an anime tier villain of absurd angles. He’s a drug lord by 16 with connections everywhere, he out smarts the CIAs best black ops soldiers, and then grows up to be a giga hacker in 2026?! Im not even mentioning his giga rage powers either.

I think it had something to do with the United States being dependent on technology while waging war on a country that MAKES that technology. I have to replay the game again.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I think it had something to do with the United States being dependent on technology while waging war on a country that MAKES that technology. I have to replay the game again.

Correct, also CIA being corrupt and him being charismatic enough to become a worldwide e-daddy to the point where he can just summon riots in North Korea and Iran with a single video. He pretty much exploits the weaknesses of the system to tear it down, in a single minded drive to take revenge on America. His connections and his mercs let him have some of the most advanced prototype technology available(which he uses to hijack USS Obama, for example), and his money lets him equip all these lovely young rioters with state of the art military weapons, with the aid of his paid mercs, of course(who are shown off to be better trained than most soldiers in this universe). He is also known to hit strategic targets to make his men's job easier or to cripple his enemies. The only way to get the good ending and to put him behind bars is to kill off his most trusted men and forge an alliance with China, otherwise he just causes too much damage and the world turns into endless Floyd(or in this case, Menendez) Summer of Love 2025. The ending where the White House burns down with Cordis Die protestors of peace is pretty telling.
He's pretty much about as good of a villain as COD can have. Otherwise, you have someone who isn't very memorable or someone like Rorke from Ghosts who is just a baneposting meme.

Raul is a shit villain, I understand making a villain one step ahead but Raul is an anime tier villain of absurd angles. He’s a drug lord by 16 with connections everywhere, he out smarts the CIAs best black ops soldiers, and then grows up to be a giga hacker in 2026?! Im not even mentioning his giga rage powers either.

The game takes place in 2025. Outsmarting the CIA isn't difficult, not in this game or in the real world, you are severely over estimating these horsefuckers. Lastly, implying that Menendez Doom 2016 esque level where he just goes full rage pig isn't the best mission in the game(you even get to play it in reverse from Black Ops side to see how much damage he caused).

 

[The Last Stand]

He's pretty much about as good of a villain as COD can have. Otherwise, you have someone who isn't very memorable or someone like Rorke from Ghosts who is just a baneposting meme.

That one ending where he breaks out of prison to confront Woods for killing his sister followed by burning himself on her grave was quite dramatic. That proved that Menendez was not somebody to be messed with. All it takes is the will of a single man.

 

[30+GameOvers]

All it takes is the will of a single man.

Don't remind me how they ruined my man Makarov in the nu-trilogy

BTW, seeing the absolute state of Europe right now, I can't even blame him for wanting to glass it in MW3. It's still stupid how Russia was able to do even half the damage they did in US, considering the conflict in Ukraine right now.

 

[The Last Stand]

Don't remind me how they ruined my man Makarov in the nu-trilogy
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BTW, seeing the absolute state of Europe right now, I can't even blame him for wanting to glass it in MW3. It's still stupid how Russia was able to do even half the damage they did in US, considering the conflict in Ukraine right now.

I think people were questioning on how Russia was able to completely storm the US, followed by the whole of Europe for the MW trilogy. From my understanding, the Ultranationalists from CoD4 managed to overthrow the Russian military after Marakov staged an American terrorist attack from No Russian.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I think people were questioning on how Russia was able to completely storm the US, followed by the whole of Europe for the MW trilogy. From my understanding, the Ultranationalists from CoD4 managed to overthrow the Russian military after Marakov staged an American terrorist attack from No Russian.

The joke here is that Russia can't even take over Ukraine in like 3 years now, with little to no interference, let alone start WW3(that includes invading USA en-masse, a country where just civilians pack more firepower than the entirety of Ukrainian military several times over).

 

[The Ugly One]

It's not just objective game types, it's certain maps or playlists that adjust their kill per XP rate without telling the player.

Regardless, seems like they're still trying to balance it so that one particular map & mode isn't hands down the best for getting XP, since otherwise you just get everyone piling into Nuketown all the time to try and fill their bars. I actually think it makes sense to scale XP depending on the map & mode. The massive tantrum this kid threw is just silly.

Another CoD Youtuber "being done" with Black Ops 6. They mention the battle pass loyalty bonus and desync issues.

This guy made a point I'd totally forgotten about. I partied up with some guys from Discord for MW2, since I finally accepted it's impossible to meet people in game lobbies. They were apparently 2-3 tiers higher than me in the SBMM, so all I did was die. It was terrible.

There's nothing wrong with taking creative liberties with historical fiction either to progress a story, time/research limitations, rule of cool. I'm sure nobody noticed or cared of the historical inaccuracies that WaW or Black Ops 1 had because the sum of its parts allowed for an engaging, believable experience.

The historical inaccuracies of WaW were the usual boring shit caused by someone not being obsessive enough, like, "The Marines didn't have that uniform yet in in 1943," and, "That's the wrong model Thompson."

He's pretty much about as good of a villain as COD can have. Otherwise, you have someone who isn't very memorable or someone like Rorke from Ghosts who is just a baneposting meme.

I remember when the CoD series was notable primarily for not being about action movie-style larger-than-life heroes and villains, and instead making you feel like you were just some guy taking part in events much larger than you. How the turns have tabled.

 

[The Last Stand]

I remember when the CoD series was notable primarily for not being about action movie-style larger-than-life heroes and villains, and instead making you feel like you were just some guy taking part in events much larger than you.

I think MW2 started the trend of you being a one-man army.

In hindsight, MW2 was a Michael Bay movie in all the right ways.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I'm still watching BT videos right now, but I just want to share a few since I haven't seen anyone talk about this stuff here:

Highlights include: Possible AI generated content(poorly made at that), taking away features of MWII and MWIII with launch of BO6, MW3 straight up not working for some people anymore at launch(What a coincidence, you can still buy BO6!), paying to get good audio(lol), and maps also possibly being generated by AI. Hell, there is another video which covers rumors of MWIII maps being cut from that game to release it sometime in BO6's life cycle, which would also explain why there were so few new 6 v 6 maps by the end. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised, this game looks even more disgusting than MW6 aka MWIII and Vanguard, and I bet the next COD is going to be even worse.
I'm sure there is more but I'm still catching up. Now BT is blowing his vocal chords over maps being extremely tiny, 3 lane bullshit for Shipment zoomers with brain rot, but we've seen that as far back as the leaks. SBMM being even worse than before and exciting new things being linked to the patented Activision algorithm isn't a surprise either.
Ironic that they took this fucking long to introduce shootdodging, none of these maps look designed for it in the slightest. Mind you, Max Payne 3 had this problem as well, but at least that game let you get some bullet time as well to make it more viable.
Also, can anyone explain to my why the fuck Vorkuta is here, aside from memberberries? This game takes place in the 90s, unless there is yet another flashback section in single player, Vorkuta shouldn't even be here, let alone looking like it did in BO1(which took place in the 60s).