Supreme Court Arguments Devolve Into Weird Panic Over Trans Kids’ Fertility - During Wednesday's oral arguments for U.S. v. Skrmetti, Brett Kavanaugh and an attorney for Tennessee talked about trans children’s future reproduction. Weird weird weird!

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There’s a reason Tim Walz’s now-famous “weird” line of attack against conservatives once resonated, and it’s that conservatives and so many of their core fights are deeply fucking weird! That was very much on display Wednesday morning at the Supreme Court when the Justices heard oral arguments for U.S. v. Skrmetti, a case involving trans children’s access to life-saving gender-affirming health care that challenges Tennessee’s current ban.

Some background: In March 2023, Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) signed SB 1, which prohibits health care workers from providing gender-affirming health care to transgender youth, including puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapies. However, minors who aren’t trans are still allowed to receive these treatments for varying reasons. SB 1, which forced trans youth to end their care by March 31 of this year, also allows minors or their parents to sue trans health care providers if they’ve suffered “harm” following treatment. In response to SB 1, trans children and their families sued the state of Tennessee. They’re represented by attorneys for the Biden administration, Lambda Legal, and the ACLU — specifically, the ACLU’s Chase Strangio, who became the first known transgender person to argue before the Supreme Court on Wednesday.

In June 2023, a federal judge issued a decision that would have blocked SB 1, but Tennessee immediately filed a successful appeal at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit. The plaintiffs appealed to the Supreme Court, which announced in June that they would hear the case. And now, here we are!

While Strangio and Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar argued SB 1 amounts to sex-based discrimination, at different points, conservatives tried to hurl the court down a junk science rabbit hole over how gender-affirming care could supposedly impact trans kids’ future fertility. First, Kavanaugh raised to Prelogar that gender-affirming care came with risks of fertility loss, which Prelogar pointed out is untrue: Puberty blockers don’t affect fertility, and even if that were the case, a wide range of medical treatments that do affect fertility aren’t banned.



“Critically, puberty blockers have no effect in and of themselves on fertility, so I don’t think that concern can justify the ban on puberty blockers, which is just pressing pause on someone’s puberty to give them more time to understand their identity… There are other treatments for adolescents that likewise affect puberty including… [for] intersex individuals who often have surgeries as infants that might permanently affect their fertility.” Prelogar also raised that even if impacts on future fertility were a concern for gender-affirming health services, that still doesn’t warrant a ban: “If you are concerned about fertility there are measures the state could undertake like requiring warnings, more informed counseling, trying to ensure there’s informed consent in this area” instead of sweepingly banning medical treatments that can be a lifeline for trans kids.

Later, Tennessee’s solicitor general, Matthew Rice, raised this same, baseless, fearmongering claim when he made his case on behalf of the state. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson aptly pointed out that the case actually has nothing to do with speculation about fertility, but the discriminatory nature of policing some children but not others’ access to certain medical treatments.

I’m genuinely impressed at Prelogar and Jackson’s ability to maintain composure amid such astoundingly creepy conversations. Thinking about anyone’s fertility, let alone the fertility and future reproduction of children, is both invasive and perverted. And yet, the arguments from Kavanaugh and Rice closely reflect the gross talking points I’ve increasingly been exposed to while following terminally online right-wingers and transphobes like Elon Musk, as well as anti-abortion extremists, for years.

Musk, specifically, is famously obsessed with the birth rate — an obsession that’s manifested in supporting anti-abortion politicians and trying to impregnate every woman within a three-mile radius of him. In recent years, Musk has become one of the most visible anti-trans talking heads on the internet, even writing off his own trans daughter as “dead” to him for transitioning. In 2023, his ex-partner, Grimes, tried to explain Musk’s transphobia, explaining that he’s simply, benevolently concerned about the birth rate and survival of the human race. Ew.

Meanwhile, just as conservatives speculate about whether trans kids could still birth biological children, they’re also increasingly arguing that child rape victims should be denied abortion and forced to give birth. Anti-abortion Dr. Ingrid Skop testified before Congress in 2021 that child rape victims as young as nine or 10 could safely give birth (false), and in May of this year, Texas appointed her to the state’s maternal mortality committee. In 2023, an Ohio anti-abortion leader testified before the state legislature in support of the state’s abortion ban, referring to a 10-year-old child rape victim as a “woman,” and insisting that “a woman’s body is designed to carry life.” One Texas-based anti-abortion leader proudly argued to the Washington Post in 2022 that 13-year-old rape victims make for “phenomenal” parents.

There is so, so much about the Skrmetti case that’s deeply upsetting — the dehumanization of trans kids, the risk this poses to gender-affirming care for trans people of all ages, or how Tennessee is invoking the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health ruling as justification for SB 1. But on top of being infuriating, let’s not lose sight of how singularly fucking weird it is to be this fixated on trans children’s genitals and their “future fertility.”
 
Just be an eTHOT like you so desperately want to be Ms. Kylie Cheung. Jeez. You aren’t a very good writer.
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There’s a reason Tim Walz’s now-famous “weird” line of attack against conservatives once resonated, and it’s that conservatives and so many of their core fights are deeply fucking weird!
Touchy Tim guzzles horse cum and is friends with school shooters, these people want to chemically castrate and physically mutilate children. They call mass infant sacrifice “reproductive healthcare”, I consider it a mark of good character if they think I’m weird.
 
Not weird: Stopping a child's genitals from developing using a long-term hormonal implant, putting a child under general anesthetic and exposing their private areas, removing a child's breasts and detaching and reattaching the nipples to the new flat chest, castrating a child, inverting a child's penis into a cavity after taking out the sensate tissue. As long as you say the magic words "trans health care," this is all normal. Lifesaving. Not weird at all!

Weird: Saying any words about what's actually being done.

I mean this, the Nazis should have tried this. "You're so WEIRD talking about people being put in ovens or starved or whatever! Do you get a sick thrill of enjoyment from talking about people clawing at the walls while dying from poison gas? Only a pervert would speak of such things."
 
It's pretty devastating to most women if they find out they can't have children.
I think the larger problem is very few 14-18 year olds, of either gender, have any grasp on being parents or what their adult self might want in life.

Many 19 year olds think they never want kids, only to change their minds a few years down the road. Maturity and life change your pov and desires.

The greatest irony to me is I knew a few “never want kids” types in my 20’s, male and female, and neither could find any doctors that would perform vasectomies or tie their tubes at that age. It was forbidden and against medical ethics because the consensus was even a 22 year old could/would change their mind on the issue in the future. They were not permitted to make an unalterable decision on their future fertility. I still hear women in their 30’s, with several kids, being told by their doctors they won’t tie their tubes for similar reasons.

Yet, simply declaring you feel like another gender magically erases all these safeguards and they will happily remove the healthy uterus or testes of a 18 year old on demand
 
I really find it depressing how we undid all the progress on tolerating gender non-conforming behavior to essentially coming up with a tortured rationalization for conversion therapy.
It's disproportionately gay kids and autists who get groomed into trooning out. We're doing what Iran does to them now. And the people most responsible, rather hypocritically, hate Iran and would have protested the fuck out of this if it were Christian conservatives doing it stateside, like they did 15 years ago.
 
How does someone get like this? To unquestioningly believe something as fundamentally ridiculous as "drugs that disrupt puberty - the process by which you become fertile - have no affect on fertility"?

No, seriously. Research needs to be done on what happens to the human brain to make them into literal NPCs who simply obey their programming, because it's genuinely terrifying watching an erstwhile human being behave like a single celled organism.
It's literal cult thinking and behavior.
 
This is weird, but the Jennings openly talking about Jazz's penis during dinner and school books depicting oral sex is perfectly normal.

Progressives love to talk about sex except for the part where produce babies and do everything they can to remove that from the act with birth control and abortion. Reality is, kids are fertile since they're around 10 (and even earlier and that's a problem), so we need to talk with them about it, but that discussion ain't through pornography and doesn't include these degenerates. We talk with kids abou sex to avoid early pregnancies, not to train them into promiscuity or to chop their genitals.
 
Instead they have a screeching activist showcasing the end game for people led down this path...I guess their echo chamber made them that delusional?
She looks like she is high on something all the time.
I love that they brought kids to testify and not adults that have gone through child transition, makes you think why huh.
One of the kids started blockers as a 9 year old btw.
 
However, minors who aren’t trans are still allowed to receive these treatments for varying reasons.
Because puberty blockers are intended for a very specific edge case where people way too young start suddenly going through it, and you block that until puberty would normally start. I'm sure there are some other edge cases where kids get sex appropriate hormone therapy for specific medical conditions but I'd guess they typically are not accompanied by puberty blockers.

"Trans" kids get puberty blockers during normal puberty, and then pumped full of the wrong hormones, leaving them with under development that can never ever be reversed. You don't do one without the other, and even if you never get to HRT, if you stayed on the blockers past puberty's normal course I'm pretty sure puberty never happens...and this doesn't even touch on surgery.

These two scenarios are not the same.
 
I think the larger problem is very few 14-18 year olds, of either gender, have any grasp on being parents or what their adult self might want in life.
Even worse, young kids, like 8 - 10? Who they actively want to be able to consent to surgery? Not only have no concept of themselves in 20 years.... and what they might want reproductively. They don't even have the concept of "permanent harm" down.

You fall down, you get a boo-boo, you get a band aid, it heals.

That's how it works.

The idea that there's a way to cut yourself that DOESN'T heal is completely lost on them.

Or disregarded with usual childhood gleeful ignorance:

"Hey, quit playing around that running tractor! You get your arm caught in that PTO and you'll lose it just like Grandpa Dave!"

"Yeah, but, he got a prosthetic arm, so I can lose mine no problem!"
 
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"Ew, weirdo conservatives are worried about mutilating people at a young age with debilitating procedures, causing them to lose the opportunity to ever start a family in the future among other horrible effects, isn't that weird and awful, and also abortion, and also blah blah blah"

It's so tiring, just the typical antinatalist yet also ironically pro-pedophilia bullshit you only ever hear from the left about this topic.
The pro tranny people are coming from the premise that transexualism is a real thing that happens. People can be born the wrong the sex and it has a real biological permenance. so why would a transperson care about their fertility and why would you assume they'll have regrets about a permanent surgery?

Its a broken worldview.
 
It's literal cult thinking and behavior.
To unquestioningly believe something as fundamentally ridiculous as "drugs that disrupt puberty - the process by which you become fertile - have no affect on fertility"?
Like their lacking in Theory of Mind, shitlibs also have no concept of unintended consequences.

When you believe you are on the Right Side of History™️, you also believe that you can do no wrong and that you cannot fail. You can only be failed or sabotaged. Other people cannot have legitimate reasons to oppose you, they're just evil and apologists for the "oppressors".
If it's so "life saving" how come young people 15 years ago didn't need it?
"If you don't do this, I'll kill myself!"

In any other situation, this kind of emotional blackmail is considered abusive behavior. But now it's "life-saving" because not going along with it interferes with perverts' ability to goon.

The fact that these creeps can't accept "kids cannot consent, wait till 18" is proof it's all about normalizing their perversions. In a way, they're correct that denying them their "healthcare" is "trans genocide", because troons cannot reproduce without a steady stream of catamites.
 
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