Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Trapper]

The general public at large are finally realizing just how bad this shit is thankfully and now is the time while these fanatics are on the backfoot to step up the pressure, because if the majority of people knew the reality of this shit it would have never gotten this bad.

It’s a difficult line to walk, because very quickly you can end up looking like a crazy conspiracy theorist. If there’s a news article that mainstream media hasn’t covered, its “fake news”, so you have to wait until a respectable publication covers it. Eg in the UK, Daily Mail / GB News = bad. Even then, the source will be deemed as a right-wing news source, eg The Times, and unless the BBC covers it, it isn’t a big enough issue. On top of that, most people just don’t care, and see it as a fringe issue until it affects them or someone they care about. Even if they do care and do trust what you have to say, they don’t want the gory details and default to “we just need to be kind to everyone”.

 

[SimplyScrumptious]

They believe gender is this magical thing that everyone possesses. The reason you cant figure out what gender you are is because theres no way to do that. It is madeup

They seem to forget that normal humans do not feel their gender. By their definitions I, and a lot of other women I know, are trans. Most women don’t care about makeup or looking pretty, and prefer baggy clothes as form fitting tops bring unwanted attention. We don’t spend everyday thinking about how we are women. I don’t think I’ve ever felt my gender, I just am. I doubt men feel like men either. This obsessive thinking alone makes it obvious how fucking crazy they are (anxiety obsessive compulsive thoughts and behaviours?)

Just disliking your body and not enjoying attention from the opposite sex is enough for them to deem you trans though. Throw in hating your period, or general female worries about being ugly? And then the unease about being gay? Sigh. A lot of these women never stood a chance against the cult.

Surgeons definitely bullshit the prices, although it’s insane to see just how much the us is charging. A quick peek at private uk costs, allegedly last updated in 2020…

Phallo £40,000-£70,000. I’m not sure if this is all stages or just 1.

Some other costs associated with transitioning include:

• Gender therapist consultation: Can cost around £200 for an hour
• Top surgery: Can cost between £5,000 and £10,000
• Hysterectomy: Can cost between £7,500 and £12,500
• Metoidioplasty: Can cost between £10,000 and £15,000

Add on testosterone, which is cheaper than I thought, £10-£25 a month.

The majority of this is covered by the nhs, including fucking hair removal lol.

 

[JohnnyG]

I don't really understand why Gruffin's SRS cost that much either

Theres no way this shit should be costing multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Phallo £40,000-£70,000. I’m not sure if this is all stages or just 1.

So a couple more anecdotes from going down the rabbit hole:
- FtM quotes a Stage 1 (of 3) phallo as $70k. With complications, first surgery ballooned to $93k (38:50, 42:10 at that link), plus $40k for extended hospital stay. With "wound separation" that needs corrective revisions, just to complete Stage 1. But don't worry, it's on her parents' insurance so you're paying.
- Another FtM quotes a 12.5 hour surgery, also just for one stage. So multiple specialists, anesthesiologists, shifts full of support teams, not to mention the drug, equipment, and surgical theatre costs.

After watching a variety of these it seems "revision" surgeries in between stages are the rule rather than the exception, so I have no doubt that half a dozen surgeries, involving multiple specialists and a half- to full-day of OR time, can easily exceed a half million dollars.

It’s a difficult line to walk, because very quickly you can end up looking like a crazy conspiracy theorist

The Trump campaign had to dial back their troon ads because when they discussed the actual policies and practices of the Biden/Kamala regime, normies in focus groups wouldn't believe it. And I can't imagine trying to explain some of the horror shows covered here or in the TransTokkers' own accounts.

Think about how LibsOfTikTok was attacked for simply reposting videos Lefties shared publicly (albeit in their censored hugboxes) without additional commentary.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

If you ever need to fast and are hungry look thru this thread it's a fkn puke inducing nightmare. Horror movies should showcase this shit

Genuinely wish this worked for me.
Sometimes it makes me hungry…

 

[Paper Machete]

I never thought I'd say these before being exposed to poonerism but rotdogs really make you appreciate actual natal penises. Holy shit.

They're all so...doughy looking. Aside from everything else. The Pilsbury doughboy quality of them is so offputting.

 

[Dilatortron3000]

Heres a pooner getting her tits cut off. A very uncomfortable video

Heres an AGP who just got vocal feminisation with his wife

 

[kyonara]

I'm noticing more of these posts from people who appear to be experiencing actual dysphoria after transition. I wonder if these posts just aren't being censored as hard as before or if it's genuinely a sign that regret is up because all these idiots jumped on a bandwagon they don't belong on.

Spoiler: actual dysphoria PL

On the topic of actual dysphoria, I can vouch for how frightening it is. I am not trans, and have never had elective cosmetic surgery, but I have had to have three major reconstructive procedures done on my face, because cancer is the world's biggest bitch.

I won't say too much in case it could identify me, but there were entire weeks where I felt genuinely insane, or like I was wearing a face that belonged to someone else. (It didn't help that it was objectively gross to look at while it healed.) I was told by my doctor to let him know when I needed antidepressants to combat the dysphoria. Not if! When.

I still feel it a little to this day. The sound of my own voice inside my head has changed, though my friends and family say that I sound the same to them. So when they talk about this frightening post-surgery dysphoria, I understand it, and it is genuinely terrifying that people are doing this to themselves. On purpose. For no reason.

 

[JohnnyG]

The sound of my own voice inside my head has changed, though my friends and family say that I sound the same to them

If you haven't heard your voice outside your head in a while (ie a recording), maybe give that a try. Not because it'll necessarily sound better (I remember being unpleasantly surprised at my own voice), but just as a reminder of how wildly differently you sound to other people vs. what you hear.

 

[Trapper]

Heres a pooner getting her tits cut off. A very uncomfortable video

Heres an AGP who just got vocal feminisation with his wife

The first video is tragic, she seems so young and doesn’t “act like a man” at all. She starts crying at one point, then very quickly says it’s not sadness. The whole thing is like getting another tattoo to her. I don’t understand how the nurse attending to her is ok with this.

 

[TexasRanger]

Heres a pooner getting her tits cut off. A very uncomfortable video

Heres an AGP who just got vocal feminisation with his wife

Imagine how these freaks will look when they hit their 50s. I don't have any tattoos (PL: sometimes I use Jagua to look inked for 1-2 weeks) yet I find them disgusting on old skin. How about you, am I being too judgmental? Even worse if the person is a former skinny person. Bonus points if it's some juvenile crap on sagging tights.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Spoiler: actual dysphoria PL

On the topic of actual dysphoria, I can vouch for how frightening it is. I am not trans, and have never had elective cosmetic surgery, but I have had to have three major reconstructive procedures done on my face, because cancer is the world's biggest bitch.

I won't say too much in case it could identify me, but there were entire weeks where I felt genuinely insane, or like I was wearing a face that belonged to someone else. (It didn't help that it was objectively gross to look at while it healed.) I was told by my doctor to let him know when I needed antidepressants to combat the dysphoria. Not if! When.

I still feel it a little to this day. The sound of my own voice inside my head has changed, though my friends and family say that I sound the same to them. So when they talk about this frightening post-surgery dysphoria, I understand it, and it is genuinely terrifying that people are doing this to themselves. On purpose. For no reason.

Makes sense, what you hear, is affected by the resonance within your body parts that don't actively make the voice, while other people only hear what leaves the voice apparatus and mouth.

 

[Hepativore]

Heres a pooner getting her tits cut off. A very uncomfortable video

Heres an AGP who just got vocal feminisation with his wife

Heres an AGP who just got vocal feminisation with his wife

I am guessing we are witnessing a trans widow in the making. There is also a pretty good chance that the troon's vocal cords will never recover so he might be either left mute or barely manage a whisper. The upside is that he will not be able to scream "TERF!" at people if he does have permanent vocal damage.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Spoiler: More

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3219pp7wgo

Forgive me for being a touch off topic, I just have only heard of this case today-
Some psycho at the Great Ormond St (Childrens, NHS) Hospital, where some nutter was doing those totally fucked leg lengthening procedures*, but on kids with deformitites, whose parents basically thought that was the actual standard procedures he was following, and am fascinated by this part of it.

https://www.thompsons.law/support/legal-guides/yaser-jabbars-limb-lengthening-surgery

How the fuck can this stuff get to this situation in the first place? You hear about surgeons being treated like gods and ig they are way up there in terms of directing the way things go but you'd think such an established, gov ran health service would have safety structure upon structure to make sure things go the right way. There's certainly a vast layer of managers who do fuck knows what at great expense.

Anway its just disgusting and sad. He's mutilated so many little kids. A lot have had amputations and now have legs of vastly different sizes. Awful, poor parents, poor bairns.

*as we know, these experimental procedures are in the more exotic end, but the same ballpark nevertheless, of Troon surgeries. Rich pooners, obsessed dysmorphic incels, and the same school of thought that cracks and reshapes collarbone in MTF linebacker shoulders.
It would be interesting to know who Mr Jabbars peers are, and see what he ends up doing, if/where in the world he ends up practicing next.

 

[Vulvalover1]

That blue haired top surgery Poon is a disgrace. I can’t feel sorry for her. I’ve watched her arrival at all this nonsense over some years on tiktok.
She’s a lesson in the incremental way this works on young people.. happily, bouncily leading each other down this dangerously self centred path. The mix of cheesy kids TV presenter, self diagnosed mental health problems (anxiety etc) and the FTM ‘look’ is so common to the Pooner (another one being my pet hate Jamie dodger) Why do they all do this cod children’s telly type content ? It’s almost certainly a perverse validation for them ‘helping people’ its all so perfectly aimed at young people. Weird mummy bwoys teaching / advising the kids, cosy armchair, silly in-jokes and disgusting stories of metoidioplasty.
Its so fucking weird.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

How about you, am I being too judgmental?

No. I find all tattoos off-putting, but they look best when they're on a normal-sized youngish person. Thing is, if you're a tattoo enthusiast or you have a (few) high quality tattoo(s), at least when you're old and saggy and they look ugly, it doesn't matter because you have the memories attached to them and they're meaningful to you (and perhaps to your partner/kids). Random cheap scribbles on your body are not meaningful, and they're already ugly when you're young, and just get uglier and dumber with age.

 

[Chieftain Coke Peanut]

All this troon surgery shit and the story of the guy whose organs were almost harvested while he was still alive have me rethinking my organ donor status. How many years until these cretins figure out how to transplant genitalia?

It wouldn't even have to work if SRS is anything to go by, no function, no blood flow, no problem! They'll sign up for it in droves anyways. I don't want my twig and berries slowly necrotizing on some pooners crotch after I die.

If there was a clause saying no gender related stuff I'd be fine with it but that would be "problematic". Hell, I'd even let some poor eunuch have what he needs after I die.

 

[merrybrandybuck]

All this troon surgery shit and the story of the guy whose organs were almost harvested while he was still alive have me rethinking my organ donor status. How many years until these cretins figure out how to transplant genitalia?

It wouldn't even have to work if SRS is anything to go by, no function, no blood flow, no problem! They'll sign up for it in droves anyways. I don't want my twig and berries slowly necrotizing on some pooners crotch after I die.

If there was a clause saying no gender related stuff I'd be fine with it but that would be "problematic". Hell, I'd even let some poor eunuch have what he needs after I die.

A day that ends in -y is a good day to remind people that vital organs cannot be taken from a clinically dead body as they become worthless within seconds of losing blood supply. The organ donors are called "beating heart cadavers" as they still breathe and have a heart beat and need paralytics to keep them from moving.

 

[Chieftain Coke Peanut]

A day that ends in -y is a good day to remind people that vital organs cannot be taken from a clinically dead body as they become worthless within seconds of losing blood supply. The organ donors are called "beating heart cadavers" as they still breathe and have a heart beat and need paralytics to keep them from moving.

I know you have to be brain dead not clinically dead, but if I am brain dead to me I am dead. I don't ride a motorcycle though so the chances of that happening are pretty low.

 

[merrybrandybuck]

I know you have to be brain dead not clinically dead, but if I am brain dead to me I am dead. I don't ride a motorcycle though so the chances of that happening are pretty low.

Brain death can and has been misdiagnosed numerous times and we still don't have an understanding of what it actually is. Up until recently it was believed that people in a coma had no perception of the world but this has turned out to be false. Most importantly though, once you sign up to be a donor, you sign your family's right away to request a repeat brain scan or a second opinion.

 

[Chieftain Coke Peanut]

People abusing a good faith system to their advantage and making people leave, hmm where did I see this one before...