UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

[neger psykolog]

I just wanted to make a general observation: I think this incident is going to have more of an impact on the US and the entire world than the outcome of the election or any future elections.

 

[Adolf Kotler]

You could also view it as demoralization taken too far. Once a man feels like everything is pointless and there is no hope for the future or for things to get better, they might just say "fuck it" and do unexpected shit.

100%... the saying that the most dangerous type of person is someone with nothing to lose is definitely true.

 

[Space Faring Marsupial]

I just wanted to make a general observation: I think this incident is going to have more of an impact on the US and the entire world than the outcome of the election or any future elections.

Dude you just sound like the killer trying to stroke your ego.

 

[Sho'nuff]

On this pistol being a Welrod.
I doubt it. The way this guy is operating the pistol seems nothing to me like it's a welrod or a modern day variant. A few notes about welrods. They are a bolt action pistol. The casing is ejected from the bolt housing which is what you need to manually pull back to reload. The bolt housing locks in a forward position and stays there, I've looked at a bunch of modern equivalents and they all look nothing in operation like what this guy was operating.
What I think is happening.
Guy operates the pistol well enough to likely know about subsonic ammo. Issues with subsonic ammo is it provides less back pressure for cycling a pistol which the suppressor also causes. Whether this is a home made suppressor or something he acquired, not all suppressors work great with all ammo types. While watching the it appears this guy isn't simply releasing a slide bolt that's locking to the rear, he is pulling the slide significant distance to the rear. As if he is not getting a full cycle and/or the slide is coming down on an ejecting shell casing. At one point he has to actually clear a jam which point more to a modern pistol misoperating.
You can also add to this being a cold morning which would also potentially further lower gas pressure.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Pretty sure it wasn't cycling with the suppressor. If that's the case dude pretty calmly handled 3 consecutive malfunctions in the middle of a hit.

Not a pro, pros don't really exist in the civilian world, but he pretty much nailed what he intended to do.

Wild times.

The dude practiced methodically with that suppressor so that he could manually cycle each round calmly and efficiently. He knew it would not cycle with the DIY suppressor.

They say he took a bus from Atlanta to NYC last month. I have little doubt he was in the region practicing with that pistol and silencer. The south is where you want to be if you want to practice shooting off a pistol with a DIY silencer, for a few weeks. You’re just engaging in a pastime of half the adult male population.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker 2.0]

Idk who the guy was but he clearly was not some mad dictator, maniac, or killer. The fact that the whole Reddit cheers at his death makes me recall one nigga junkie made into a martyr. You would get a site ban even now if you dare not to show your "obligatory mourning".

 

[neger psykolog]

Dude you just sound like the killer trying to stroke your ego.

I don't really think it matters at this point who the killer is or even if he gets caught - the fact other health insurance companies are starting to hide their "senior leadership" pages and basically almost all spectrums of the political world are applauding this speaks volumes.

 

[Space Faring Marsupial]

I don't really think it matters at this point who the killer is or even if he gets caught - the fact other health insurance companies are starting to hide their "senior leadership" pages and basically almost all spectrums of the political world are applauding this speaks volumes.

They will just get more security and make sure the same does not happen again. It will take a whole lot more than this to change things.

 

[just Reading a post]

On this pistol being a Welrod.
I doubt it. The way this guy is operating the pistol seems nothing to me like it's a welrod or a modern day variant. A few notes about welrods. They are a bolt action pistol. The casing is ejected from the bolt housing which is what you need to manually pull back to reload. The bolt housing locks in a forward position and stays there, I've looked at a bunch of modern equivalents and they all look nothing in operation like what this guy was operating.
What I think is happening.
Guy operates the pistol well enough to likely know about subsonic ammo. Issues with subsonic ammo is it provides less back pressure for cycling a pistol which the suppressor also causes. Whether this is a home made suppressor or something he acquired, not all suppressors work great with all ammo types. While watching the it appears this guy isn't simply releasing a slide bolt that's locking to the rear, he is pulling the slide significant distance to the rear. As if he is not getting a full cycle and/or the slide is coming down on an ejecting shell casing. At one point he has to actually clear a jam which point more to a modern pistol misoperating.
You can also add to this being a cold morning which would also potentially further lower gas pressure.

Ian from Forgotten Weapons says it is not a Welrod. Backs up your points. He claims it is a semi auto that has been modified and has a mechanical failure so the guy is stuck having to clear after every shot.

He has shot and done videos on the Welrod. The media got duped by a meme gun really. Like how every rifle is an AR-15.

 

[Pussyfarts]

That was specifically Veteran's Affairs. They've got a long history of treating their veterans like shit. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't even a doctor who suggested that to the woman, if it actually happened.
There's no one going into a doctor's office asking for help getting a chair lift and being asked by their doctor if they'd rather kill themself instead, the program just doesn't work that way. The doctor would have literally nothing to gain by trying to offer suicide in cases where other options made more sense. There's no incentive, and the MAID program requires multiple assessments and wait time over months so if it was a lazy doctor they'd be making more work for themselves when they could just fire the patient. I understand people being concerned the program would be overused, but the nonsense some people come up with is tiresome. Doctors aren't handing out signups for suicide with flu shots.

What happened was the woman made an offhand comment (on the phone to a gov consultant or whatever, not a literal dr. Not sure where this narrative comes from. Maybe it sounds more salacious if a doctor said it?) that she "couldn't go on like this any longer" in reference to not having her accessibility accoutrements installed in her house as a disabled veteran in Canada. The representative was probably half checked out (what the fuck can they do??) and heard one of their flowchart phrases "can't live this way, can't keep going, can't live like this", etc, her ears perked up, and replied with the offer of assisted suicide. It's like the McDonald's coffee thing. It's simultaneously as bad as and not as bad as people say it is. Very weird country, I will say.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Unless I missed something, I refuse to believe this is the same person. Didn't the police call him "a person of interest"?

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I don’t trust various security camera stills from various angles, but he could have been smart enough to get other guys to use whatever IDs or devices he had to ensure they had conflicting images and attempt to send them on a wild goose chase.

They also “found” a cellphone near his citi bike, which I think was done on purpose. It might be a phone with misleading data or it was just a burner with nothing but some totally random guys fingerprints.

I might be giving him too much credit, but he obviously understood how cameras and devices were going to be used to try and ID him and it could be used to his advantage. A hostel is a great place to meet broke young people who will do odd things for you for free or not much money. Any junkie in NYC would wear a mask, put on a backpack (with your burner phone) and use a CC to buy something for if you paid them $50.

He may have also had friends assisting him, knowingly or not, with the plans. You could find a few smart, trustworthy people also very keen on striking a blow at the health insurance industry, esp if one guy had volunteered to do the hard part and you were just asked to help with logistics or disinfo.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

Sad to hear he trusted a foid and thats what got his face revealed

What a faggot you are

 

[Sho'nuff]

Ian from Forgotten Weapons says it is not a Welrod. Backs up your points. He claims it is a semi auto that has been modified and has a mechanical failure so the guy is stuck having to clear after every shot.

He has shot and done videos on the Welrod. The media got duped by a meme gun really. Like how very rifle is a AR-15.

It's very possible. I haven't watched this video so I don't know if he goes over it; I'm fairly certain the shooter knows the pistol jams or is used to clearing jams. He doesn't act surprised when it jams. What strikes me is the way he uses the pistol and clears the jam is very firing range. He's almost certainly test fired this gun and he either taught himself or some boomer taught him the rear pinch and that tilted wrist up to look at that ejection port area. In the military, we don't teach or see very many people clear jams or shoot in this style.
Not saying he isn't military, he may be, but the pistol was certainly not apart of his military training.

These are the things that stuck out to me in the video.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

I saw a lot of posts here mentioning Occupy Wall Street and how it was a failure and I guess it was. It was a social/protest movement against banks but didn't exactly offer up any alternative system (besides protesting about it).

a year or two after the main OWS fracas, a subgroup started buying mortgages for pennies on the dollar and forgave them.

the gun looks like any striker pistol.

 

[BikeLock]

Issues with subsonic ammo is it provides less back pressure for cycling a pistol

I keep seeing this, and as a gun sperg, it pains me every fucking time.
SUBSONIC 9MM AMMO IS STANDARD PRESSURE, IT CYCLES ALL 9MM SEMI-AUTO PISTOLS JUST FINE, I WOULD KNOW, I HAVE SOME ON HAND.

The Subsonic rounds are Heavier than standard ammo, the rounds are slower at the same pressure because the fucking bullet is heavier.

THE GUN DID NOT CYCLE BECAUSE THE ASSASSIN IS A FUCKTARD WHO DID NOT USE A BOOSTER FOR HIS CAN, AND DID NOT CHECK TO MAKE SURE HIS EQUIPMENT ACTUALLY WORKED PROPERLY.

Most semi-auto pistols (pretty much all, honestly) use the Browning style tilting barrel lock-up. This means that the barrel is not fixed to the frame of the pistol, it has to move a bit with every function of the pistol. When you hang a long, heavy object off the barrel of such a pistol, it tends to interfere with the operation of said pistol. What is required is a "booster" which takes some of the wasted gasses (which are being trapped and cooled by the suppressor) and uses that energy to help cycle the pistol with the extra weight on the end. If your Browning style lock up pistol does not have this booster, its going to be a bolt action pistol as there is not enough energy to cycle the weapon with the extra weight on the end of the barrel.

Pro Tip: 45 ACP is already a subsonic round, which is why they're so popular to suppress, you don't have to look for "subsonic" ammo for them, as the standard .45 ACP load is well under subsonic.


I am a gun sperg, and this has been a short Ted-talk about how suppressors and sub-sonic ammunition works.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

How does a guy making $10M a year have such an ugly wife? He deserved to get murked for that if nothing else.

I’d pop it in her and she’s got a decade on me.

She’s got that look like “attractive 60 year old, but could be anywhere from, 40 to 70 years” look. That’s not exactly undesirable in todays white woman market.


Hey, she’s single now…. But it also looks like they were separated so Jim Tryanor might already have had moved in previously.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Man, murder sounds so easy in NYC. You just have breakfast, shoot a nigger, and then be like “LMAO!” As you run into a park on your bike. Maybe view a tourist spot or two. Then just drive out.

How embarrassing for NYC. If I was NYC, I would be like “look. I know migrants are entering my ass and stealing shit and you can get away with murder with ease and we have faggots like Bragg and I’m a total gay rat city that smells like ass… but did you see home alone 2? That was ok.”

Idk who the guy was but he clearly was not some mad dictator, maniac, or killer. The fact that the whole Reddit cheers at his death makes me recall one nigga junkie made into a martyr. You would get a site ban even now if you dare not to show your "obligatory mourning".

Imo just nationalize all healthcare so Reddit people meltdown after the first tax increase shown on the paycheck and find out the feds will schedule you in for that kidney disease in 2028, because Latshia needs her sickle cell looked at, but dedicate the program under the UHC insurance leads name so he can continue to piss off people after death lmao.

I’d pop it in her and she’s got a decade on me.

She’s got that look like “attractive 60 year old, but could be anywhere from, 40 to 70 years” look

Gross. I would rather fuck pixyteri.

 

[Paul Lives!]

Ian from Forgotten Weapons says it is not a Welrod. Backs up your points. He claims it is a semi auto that has been modified and has a mechanical failure so the guy is stuck having to clear after every shot.

Ian looking like he rolled out of bed to hastily compose a YT short just to debunk the slacktivist gamer crowd whose dilapidated, cum encrusted neurons fired when they saw the mechanical failure and immediately assumed it was the gun featured in their favorite, most based Nazi Testicle Destruction Simulator is an unexpected personal highlight of this saga. I just can't imagine any serious gun enthusiast or even armchair historians thinking this dude was carrying out the murder of a lifetime with an experimental WW2 bolt-action pistol, which narrows it down to a pretty specific autistic audience that would even be aware enough of the Welrod or VP9 to have this thought occur to them.

 

[Sho'nuff]

I keep seeing this, and as a gun sperg, it pains me every fucking time.
SUBSONIC 9MM AMMO IS STANDARD PRESSURE, IT CYCLES ALL 9MM SEMI-AUTO PISTOLS JUST FINE, I WOULD KNOW, I HAVE SOME ON HAND.

The Subsonic rounds are Heavier than standard ammo, the rounds are slower at the same pressure because the fucking bullet is heavier.

THE GUN DID NOT CYCLE BECAUSE THE ASSASSIN IS A FUCKTARD WHO DID NOT USE A BOOSTER FOR HIS CAN, AND DID NOT CHECK TO MAKE SURE HIS EQUIPMENT ACTUALLY WORKED PROPERLY.

Most semi-auto pistols (pretty much all, honestly) use the Browning style tilting barrel lock-up. This means that the barrel is not fixed to the frame of the pistol, it has to move a bit with every function of the pistol. When you hang a long, heavy object off the barrel of such a pistol, it tends to interfere with the operation of said pistol. What is required is a "booster" which takes some of the wasted gasses (which are being trapped and cooled by the suppressor) and uses that energy to help cycle the pistol with the extra weight on the end. If your Browning style lock up pistol does not have this booster, its going to be a bolt action pistol as there is not enough energy to cycle the weapon with the extra weight on the end of the barrel.

Pro Tip: 45 ACP is already a subsonic round, which is why they're so popular to suppress, you don't have to look for "subsonic" ammo for them, as the standard .45 ACP load is well under subsonic.


I am a gun sperg, and this has been a short Ted-talk about how suppressors and sub-sonic ammunition works.

Isn't this a 9mm? They are supersonic normally. That's what I'm basing my comment off of.
And you hit on what I'm saying, subsonic plus an overly long suppressor needs a booster to help cycle the pistol. The suppressor by design is dissipating the gas and pressure, too long and you may have this issue, it's secondary to weight.

Also as I said in another post, the shooter likely knew the gun did this. He wasn't surprised when it jammed.

 

[RussianBlonde]

I don’t trust various security camera stills from various angles, but he could have been smart enough to get other guys to use whatever IDs or devices he had to ensure they had conflicting images and attempt to send them on a wild goose chase.

They also “found” a cellphone near his citi bike, which I think was done on purpose. It might be a phone with misleading data or it was just a burner with nothing but some totally random guys fingerprints.

I might be giving him too much credit, but he obviously understood how cameras and devices were going to be used to try and ID him and it could be used to his advantage. A hostel is a great place to meet broke young people who will do odd things for you for free or not much money. Any junkie in NYC would wear a mask, put on a backpack (with your burner phone) and use a CC to buy something for if you paid them $50.

He may have also had friends assisting him, knowingly or not, with the plans. You could find a few smart, trustworthy people also very keen on striking a blow at the health insurance industry, esp if one guy had volunteered to do the hard part and you were just asked to help with logistics or disinfo.

Yeah. I mean to me it's clearly a different face, I know the angles / lightening can make two people look different but the guy with a mask off looks like he has a unibrow, the other one doesnt, also eyes look completely different. Also the backpack color.

It is however interesting that their attire and accessories seem to be almost identical.

As for the cellphone, it also seems to me like he dropped it on purpose.