UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

[neger psykolog]

more backpage autism:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/06/nyregion/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson

 

[General Emílio Médici]

How? he was just talking to his girlfriend, or his mom, or his friend dave. Not every phone call is nefarious.

If he was in a call at all and not just listening to something or faking a phone call.

 

[Moms New Boyfriend]

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I guess of interest is the shooter was on his phone to someone 15 minutes before the shooting happens. This somewhat lends credibility to him perhaps having someone that was feeding him information.

Now that "someone" could either be someone within UnitedHealth itself or a handler/hacker who has paid for location information of the CEO (yes - this is a thing, you can pay for location information for people if you know what you're doing and depending on what device they're using)

Disappointing if he took a cell phone with him to the scene, if it's a smart phone authorities will likely be able to de-anonymize the user based on multiple publicly available data points. The New York Times was able to do this to Trump in 2019 because he insists on using his own personal phone instead of one that is heavily locked down:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/20/opinion/location-data-national-security.html

 

[neger psykolog]

How? he was just talking to his girlfriend, or his mom, or his friend dave. Not every phone call is nefarious.

That's absolutely true, but the police have stated that they believe he acted alone.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/06/nyregion/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson

And also it has been stated (although I'm not sure confirmed just yet) that this was a "burner phone"
This phone (or a decoy phone) was ditched near the scene of the shooting and the police haven't been able to cyberhack into it so far.

Would you really call your girlfriend or mom or your friend dave on a phone you plan to ditch at a crime scene? Most likely not.

 

[Captain Manning]

How? he was just talking to his girlfriend, or his mom, or his friend dave. Not every phone call is nefarious.

He was talking to his mom, who is in a hospital dying because United Healthcare won't cover a necessary lifesaving medical procedure.

General Population: "AWWWWW!"

Authorities and media: "No, God damn it, you're not supposed to feel sorry for him!"

 

[AnOminous]

Guess again, faggot. If you don't have a burger in one hand and a gun in another, you might as well have one dick in each hand and like five in your mouth.

Words of wisdom.

 

[Terfmaster9000]

This didn't 'own' or take down the company and it's evil practices. All it did was rob someone's family from a loved one at most.

It made a lot of fuckers with no morals very, very afraid. And that's enough for me.

 

[gachadegenerate451]

Apparently David Joyner is trying to delete his Wikipedia. The edit page has this exchange.

 

[AnOminous]

I can understand why people are happy about this, but I can't bring myself to be. A man was murdered for nothing; he'll quickly be replaced and they'll continue what they were doing. This didn't 'own' or take down the company and it's evil practices. All it did was rob someone's family from a loved one at most.

A guy who killed a lot of other people's loved ones.

You can't just take down a whole company by taking out it's CEO, realistically speaking.

No, you can't. But maybe you can make the next guy who takes that particular corporate position think a bit about doing the vile things these evil corporations do for profit and just shitting on other people's loved ones.

Is assassinating CEOs "good" in some moral sense? No, it's evil.

But it's an inevitable result of the things these corporations do. They kill people. Kill enough people and they start killing back.

 

[Heed Not]

All it did was rob someone's family from a loved one at most.

Almost like he worked all his life pay into a system that didn't protect him. Good thing he never put others in that situation.

 

[JustSomeDong]

It made a lot of fuckers with no morals very, very afraid. And that's enough for me.

Drink to the little victories that help us get by.

 

[Moms New Boyfriend]

Would you really call your girlfriend or mom or your friend dave on a phone you plan to ditch at a crime scene? Most likely not.

I don't know who you call before an assassination, but it creates multiple points of failure is my point. Is the number he called a burner? If it's not the authorities can triangulate it between three cell towers as long as it has a battery in it, even if it's off. That's partially how they found Mitnick in the 90s.

Once you isolate the device that was in the area and its number, telecoms can see who you called and when. If it's a smart device they'll likely be able to track a travel path of the device and potentially find more evidence. That's my point.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

As someone earlier in the thread mentioned, maybe these retarded high school shooters will start going after the C-suite of evil companies.

Funny as fuck, hope the shooter gets lots of press precipitating a pivot in the targets of angry virgin murder-suicides from now on.

School shootings are a tragedy that everyone dreads. CEO shootings are based and a great way to immortalise your name. Think about it schizos.

This is nothing new. Look towards the era of the Gilded Age and thereafter until the Great Depression. Instead of shooting up schools, the common mode was for lunatics, disgruntled losers, and awkward autists to find the nearest big politician, financier, industrial magnate, or failing that, a family member of theirs and target them for violence or ransom.

Part of me believes the conspiracy that MKULTRA was less about mind control and more about redirecting social violence derived out of deranged anger against "the system" from "justice-seeking" targeting of high profile individuals, to nihilistic rage against "the masses". In short, moving the locus of anger away from the people controlling society, to society at large.

The longer he doesn't get caught the more I'm leaning towards him being political. You'd think some pushed-too-far killdozer type guy wouldn't have bothered with a serious plan for getting away with it.

It should terrify them. This little incident has woke people up to the fact that they can just kill the people who’ve been fucking them over for decades and they’re outnumbered a million to one. If this keeps up we could see real change for the better. The glow boys and their deep state handlers are terrified that their demoralization is wearing off.

I just wanted to make a general observation: I think this incident is going to have more of an impact on the US and the entire world than the outcome of the election or any future elections.

No problem. You can tell it's scaring the shit out of Elon.

Here's the big secret that's making all the billionaires from Elon, to the media bosses, to the shitsuckers running HMOs act like they're running scared is because they *are* running scared.
The veil of invulnerability has been pierced. The long and short of it is that what this guy did in killing the CEO isn't difficult. Now getting away with it? Yeah, he'll be legendary status if he pulls it off over the long term. That being said, shooting someone rich and powerful dead and then immediately being filled in with lead yourself still leaves the rich and powerful guy dead, which may not dissuade some people from trying, and certainly doesn't assuage the fear of the rich and powerful. Whenever you see a paparazzi photo of some rich asshole on a boat doing something embarrassing, mentally swap out him and his camera with some angry dude with a sniper rifle, and you'll get what I mean when I say Pandora's Box has been opened.

But some of you might say "but what about executive security teams"? Well, for one they're expensive as fuck. Two, they mostly work on the same principles as mall cop security. Observation, situational awareness and visible deterrence. Unlike the sort of governmental protective services, they're restricted in the amount of control they can wield over a public area which caps their efficacy. Oh and here's another dirty secret. Most executive security? It's not like they have deep knowledge of the subject, or backgrounds directly in it. Sure, lots of ex-military, ex-cops, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they were in Iraq busting down doors in Sadr City or on the third watch beat in Chicongo. They've all been trained by their employers, but in the end, most of the time 90% of these dudes are standing in suits at a high end jewelry stores, or replacing the pool covers at Oprah's Maui estate just in case she decides to be there for the weekend (ask me how I know).

In the end, the security isn't about the big buff dudes carrying cheap pistols in their not so well concealed holsters, it's about the protocols and practices, which most of the wealthy and famous are loathe to follow because it really restricts your freedom. You can't just pop down to the beach for a swim, or to McDonald's for a burger. You can't develop routines because routines are the patterns other people are looking for. And most of all, you lose your privacy, particularly when you want it the most. The goons following you everywhere better be following you to your mistresses place, because damn if that ain't a prime target. Oh, same goons are also on the team when your wife and kids go out? Well, that's awkward.
Ever wonder why the rich and powerful from shithole nations send their kids to private schools in First World nations? For their own safety. Teenagers really chafe at having to live in the gilded cage and do stupid shit, particularly if they are spoiled.

For all the wealth, power and comfort you already have, living in a series of walled gardens and hopping between them via armored cars or helicopters takes away something the beggar in the barrio has and rich First Worlders are loathe to give up. They know how Mexican and Brazilian billionaires have to live. They regularly meet with them.

I don't want to power level too much. I have buddies in law enforcement. I work a lot with the prison system. Blah blah. Not relevant. But let me tell you. I believe you. Even the fucking cops in my bumfuck nowhere town that I'm friends with are even bragging on this dude and pretty much clapping. I can't think of one person I know that is sane who isn't saying he had it coming.

Or everyone in the NYPD knows friends and loved ones who have been fucked over by health insurance companies and are fedposting in their private group chats while at work, doing nothing for this investigation and putting out a bunch of bullshit information to make it look like they care when they don't.

Every beat cop, if not knowing it first hand, knows at least several colleagues who have gotten screwed by them, usually for denying surgery for chronic injuries incurred from years of wrestling feral niggers and methheads onto the concrete and asphalt for arrest. For sure NYPD is slow-rolling this one.

I absolutely guarantee you the FBI and counterterrorism units are working on this. The shooter is not going to get away from this alive.

I think the glowies are a bit distracted by what a Mr. Kash Paytel has planned for them in a couple months to really focus on this.

 

[Buckaroo]

A man was murdered

Wrong, a parasite was removed.

All it did was rob someone's family from a loved one at most.

Also wrong, he was separated from his wife.

You can't just take down a whole company by taking out it's CEO

You can if he keeps happening.

I just don't find joy in murder

We get it, you find joy in licking corporate boot. I hope you never need health insurance to cover your expenses.

 

[parsnip]

What happened was the woman made an offhand comment (on the phone to a gov consultant or whatever, not a literal dr. Not sure where this narrative comes from. Maybe it sounds more salacious if a doctor said it?) that she "couldn't go on like this any longer" in reference to not having her accessibility accoutrements installed in her house as a disabled veteran in Canada. The representative was probably half checked out (what the fuck can they do??) and heard one of their flowchart phrases "can't live this way, can't keep going, can't live like this", etc, her ears perked up, and replied with the offer of assisted suicide. It's like the McDonald's coffee thing. It's simultaneously as bad as and not as bad as people say it is. Very weird country, I will say.

That sounds a lot more likely. There's a lot I'd change about the healthcare system, but the exaggerated stories just make people sound crazy. Hell, I've got one of the conditions that qualifies people to kill themselves apparently and I've yet to be offered the suicide booth by any of my doctors.

 

[quaawaa]

I have AAA, if my car breaks down AAA covers like 3 free tows each year and after that it's a reduced rate. Why can't Healthcare work the same? Mechanic shit can be 10x harder than fuckin medical garbage seeing as heart surgery doesn't include engineers making shit impossible for no reason.

That’s literally how healthcare used to be pre-Obamacare. You could get catastrophic insurance for cheap that paid for major surgeries but didn’t cover checkups.

 

[neger psykolog]

I don't know who you call before an assassination, but it creates multiple points of failure is my point. Is the number he called a burner? If it's not the authorities can triangulate it between three cell towers as long as it has a battery in it, even if it's off. That's partially how they found Mitnick in the 90s.

Once you isolate the device that was in the area and its number, telecoms can see who you called and when. If it's a smart device they'll likely be able to track a travel path of the device and potentially find more evidence. That's my point.

1. He threw the phone (or at least a phone away) once he did the shooting. As soon as he threw the phone away there is no more tracking to be done.
2. He could've had a wifi hotspot or been using public wifi
3. He likely didn't make an actual phone call and could've done it over something encrypted
4. It's NYC, there's probably 20 billion phones within a mile of him - Kevin Mitnick and others were tracked over days/weeks/months.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

If it's not the authorities can triangulate it between three cell towers as long as it has a battery in it, even if it's off.

Not necessarily. You can buy a Faraday bag which shields devices from incoming and outgoing singles at different strengths. Of course the protection ceases if you take that phone or device outside the bag.

 

[Pussyfarts]

That sounds a lot more likely. There's a lot I'd change about the healthcare system, but the exaggerated stories just make people sound crazy. Hell, I've got one of the conditions that qualifies people to kill themselves apparently and I've yet to be offered the suicide booth by any of my doctors.

Precisely, the story is bad enough on its own, showcasing the actual problem: just a lack of giving a fuck. People aren't paid enough to care. That's the reality of the world we live in. It's worse than a group of maniacal suicide doctors infesting the Canadian healthcare system.

 

[FieldPiece]

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If anyone should get slotted it's the Sackler family. Honestly punishment of previous scumbags is more likely to deter future scumbags than current scumbags. Even the golden parachute won't protect you.