Off my chest: Why should I give a fuck about learning French/German/Spanish etc

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As a Brit and addressing the topic of the fact most of us know fuck all except English and kids all over Europe can speak 3 or 4 languages fluently by the time they are 5.

To start with European schools teach foreign languages to kids as soon as they start school- the best age to learn, it's easy for kids to learn anything. British schools it isn't an option until you reach secondary at age 11 or 12, where you study it a little for a couple years then you have a choice what subjects to study for your GCSEs where you can drop it if you want. Once you reach adulthood, learning something like a foreign language to fluency from either scratch or very little takes a lot of time and effort (this has to include immersion and speaking it with other speakers, not 5 mins on an app every other day).

Depending where you live in the island of Great Britain- yes we all know London and the big English cities are multi-cultured as fuck, but live in a small town in the North there isn't so much. And in Scotland there are more sheep than people. So if you live in a town with little multiculturalism who are you going to speak your French to? There's probably a French person there somewhere if you go out of your way to seek them out, and they're going to wonder why the hell you are stalking them.

What about online to try out your foreign language? Isn't the internet English? Where the fuck do you even find French or German websites, again you'd have to intentionally seek this shit out.

Schools teach us French to speak it in France right, what if we visit Paris on a holiday (vacation) and want to order in a French cafe or ask for a ticket to the Louvre? Little snag there- the Parisians can speak English much better than most Brits can, and at any tourist attraction (the areas you would be going to) people will be fluent, so you aren't going to actually need any French. Not to worry, you can still try out your French so all those dozens and dozens of hours learning it didn't go to waste right? If you mangle it and say it in your own accent (which you probably will) then even if you are understood chances are they will just reply to you in English. Yes a waiter here and there might entertain you by acting impressed you can ask fpr l'addition svp but most people are busy and can't be arsed being your personal French tutor.

You trying to speak French in Paris: Excuse-moi, ou sont la magasin pour les nouritture j'ai suis la faim pour le mangez sil vous plait et merci beacoup [said in heavy Scouse accent]

French person: For the love of Christ please just speak English. If you're hungry there's a bakery around the corner there

If you didn't learn French properly at a very young age and your knowledge comes from one year of seconday school from 20 years ago topped up by a couple of Youtube videos and a few rounds of Duolingo, that's what you're going to sound like.

I've had people (including older than myself) learn x and y on DuoLingo and ask why am I not learning French or German? I don't know any French or German people, I'm an adult and if I go on holiday(vacation) it will be to a tourist area where people speak English and only want to speak English to non-locals. It's a lot of effort for fuck all other than the novelty of telling people I have a higher leaderboard score on duo fucking lingo.

One more point- French looks similar to English and if you are navigating your way around Paris with zero knowledge of French you could easily use context to work out what French signs mean.

I'm not saying knowing a 2nd language is bad (it's not, it's great), I'm saying for a lot of people who are adults there isn't any point.
 
I get the impression that French people will definitely spit in your food if you try to speak -and butcher- their language.
I heard Italians get somewhat get of a kick out of tourists trying to.
About Italians and Italy, if I go there should I move my hands when I talk like they do? Do they just move them randomly or do they move according to emotion and what is actually being said? If I move my hands "wrongly" are they going to notice and silently laugh at me?

are you in high school or something? faggot

I learned 2 years of French in high school topped up with some Youtube and Duo Lingo. I know a load of random French (my fav words are congélateur and cauchemar (freezer and nightmare), still waiting to fit them into conversation though), been to Paris a few times and can get by with ordering in a French cafe or restaurant without having to resort to English. Sometimes the whole dialogue is in French which is satisfying but sometimes they reply in English which makes me continue speaking in French to be stubborn (often leads to a "game" where I'm speaking bad French to them while they speak bad English to me to see who will "break" first).

But I'm a very long way from anywhere near fluency and I'm frustrated I wasn't taught at school at a much younger age where I would have much greater competency. Yes that's why I typed all this out. I'm frustrated my country doesn't teach foreign languages to you when you are 4 years old, they wait until you are 12.

I may also be under the influence of something
 
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My brother in Christ why are bothering with europoor languages that are useless in trade . Try egyptian arabic most popular dialekt for arabic movies, also maybe you should try Urdu or Hindu the language of your colonisers and future masters . Far better choice than anything else.
Learn Latin like a real man.
 
Pashto & Urdu are worth learning far more than a European one.

I get the impression that French people will definitely spit in your food if you try to speak -and butcher- their language.
I heard Italians get somewhat get of a kick out of tourists trying to.
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I've tried learning other languages but just really hasn't taken. I can admit that I probably wasn't trying hard enough but at the same time with just speaking English you can make it around pretty much any where in the world.

The purpose of language is to communicate with each other, so having multiple languages just fucks all of that up. Con-lang fags tried making a universal language with Esperanto, which ironically for its original purpose no one, except nerds that would also learn Elvish and shit, speaks it.
 
I've tried learning other languages but just really hasn't taken. I can admit that I probably wasn't trying hard enough but at the same time with just speaking English you can make it around pretty much any where in the world.

The purpose of language is to communicate with each other, so having multiple languages just fucks all of that up. Con-lang fags tried making a universal language with Esperanto, which ironically for its original purpose no one, except nerds that would also learn Elvish and shit, speaks it.
Yes, but a lot of interesting information doesn't ever cross the language barrier, and because of that you lose out of a lot that the internet has to offer. I'm a true crime buff, and I've had to look into the primary sources of some foreign cases because the anglophone internet leaves out chunks of info. Of course machine translation helps greatly, but it isn't the same as actually knowing the language
 
I had to learn French starting some time in elementary school because, Canada. None of it really stuck because I've only ever met a handful of French people in my life and never really had any need to speak French. I can read it and get a general sense of what something means. I can kind of understand it if I listen closely enough when it's being spoken. Enough to get a general idea of what's being talked about and I remember some of the conjugation and grammar rules but that's about it. As far as speaking it goes, I can cobble together a few phrases but not enough to carry on a conversation or communicate anything. In the end it's probably useless information that's just taking up space in my brain. I feel like learning Chinese would have been a lot more useful because the opportunity to talk in Chinese has come up a fuck of a lot more in my life than French ever has.
 
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