The Game Awards 2024 (December 12) - Its 10 year anniversary

[ZMOT]

Im looking at my cart and I am still waiting for the inevitable discounts to ACVI, Space Marine II, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, Frostpunk complete version, the old og Stalker games, OG XCOM UFO Defense and og Dead Space.

check ITAD if there's a deal somewhere else.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Twitch Influencers and the "they're dumbass kids/teens" effect

Everything is the greatest when you're a kid. It just sucks that since about 2012 everything has actually been almost irredeemable dogshit cause they'll never figure it out.

Give it 5 to 10 years and you're going to have people saying Starfield is a great game because it's what they came to age with.

Yeah but we always had shitty games and could identify them even as kids, I can't imagine growing up thinking Dragon Age: The Veilguard is good just because I had it. I guess that's what makes woke propaganda so powerful and dangerous.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Yeah but we always had shitty games and could identify them even as kids

I saw enough legal adults last year praise Cyberpunk 2077 and The Outer Worlds as "great" games on here to make me question that.

And it's easy to think you'd be able to identify shit games, but that's because you grew up playing good games. I would argue that a solid 50-75% of active gamers today have no played anything from before the PS4 now. And thanks to Sony and the AAA gaming industry conditioning people (even adults) that anything that hasn't been released or remastered in the past 4 years is garbage, they probably won't even try games from before 2014.

 

[Broseph]

The only thing I'm looking forward to is FFVII Rebirth hopefully getting it's long overdue PC port announced because I really want to play this game with mods that remove all the gay nigger npc's and also have it on my Steam Deck because the game looks like fucking shit on the PS5. Also RE9 trailer dropping would be pretty dope too, just as long as they don't have that faggot spherehunter come out on stage to shill it, given TGA's proclivity towards simping for troons...

 

[Soycast Guy]

I really want to play this game with mods

Any other mods?

RE9 trailer

lol that won’t happen.

 

[Judge Dredd]

I feel very strange when I look at these events and see what passes for goty material these days. I am alienated from what people seem to expect and be satisfied with. I don't even give these games a try anymore.

It's not people, it's corporations, shills, and twitter arguers. That's why they had to make public voting count for 10%, and judges vote count for 90%.

Likewise, GOTY is exactly that. Game of the year. It's not a list of the best game to ever exist. Yet people keep treating it like it is. This was a shitty year for games, and it looks even worse once you cut out games like Halldivers 2 and Palworld. ie. Games people actually like but are considered "problematic" to the corpos, shills, and leftie culture war people.

There's also the simple fact that games aren't just released now, but are constantly updated. The argument could be made that one of the nominations for GOTY should be the Half-Life 2 20th anniversary update.

Everything is the greatest when you're a kid. It just sucks that since about 2012 everything has actually been almost irredeemable dogshit cause they'll never figure it out.

Give it 5 to 10 years and you're going to have people saying Starfield is a great game because it's what they came to age with.

Strongly disagree. The kids today aren't playing dogshit, that's why it's failing. There was a survey or study that said the vast majority of young people are playing games more than 10 years old. This sent AAA into a panic. We can argue about the specifics (lots of people did at the time) but I'm of the opinion that modern AAA slop will be remembered the same way we talk about shit like Rise of the Robots and Superman 64.

 

[Wodanaz]

It's not people, it's corporations, shills, and twitter arguers. That's why they had to make public voting count for 10%, and judges vote count for 90%.

Likewise, GOTY is exactly that. Game of the year. It's not a list of the best game to ever exist. Yet people keep treating it like it is. This was a shitty year for games, and it looks even worse once you cut out games like Halldivers 2 and Palworld. ie. Games people actually like but are considered "problematic" to the corpos, shills, and leftie culture war people.

There's also the simple fact that games aren't just released now, but are constantly updated. The argument could be made that one of the nominations for GOTY should be the Half-Life 2 20th anniversary update.


Strongly disagree. The kids today aren't playing dogshit, that's why it's failing. There was a survey or study that said the vast majority of young people are playing games more than 10 years old. This sent AAA into a panic. We can argue about the specifics (lots of people did at the time) but I'm of the opinion that modern AAA slop will be remembered the same way we talk about shit like Rise of the Robots and Superman 64.

I don't necessarily agree. No one in their right mind would consider Palworld to be a goty contender. If they did, it would only further prove my point: That I am alienated from what people seem to expect and be satisfied with. The game is not finished. Early access has been a blight on the industry ever since it reared its ugly head, and yet people keep buying these unfinished piles of shit, so developers keep letting people play their games when they are in their shittiest, most unfinished forms. It has been normalized with a thousand different cope arguments. For every instance of a game actually improved by early access feedback, there are ten instances of Dead Cells - a confused tale of schizophrenic development as the studio flip flops on what incredible "community ideas" they should implement (almost none of them are good). I don't want to play an unfinished buggy version of pokemon with guns, I want to play pokemon with guns.

But contrast this with the other game you mentioned that also had massive problems which turned me off of even playing it (I did pirate Palworld). The Helldivers 2 team is seemingly almost as retarded as the teams who want you to play their early access shitpile. Starting with bizarre region blocking due to SNOY's meddling, and from what I've heard from people I trust, the balancing and general management cannot hope to compare to something like Deep Rock Galactic (which actually is goty material and a masterpiece). Not to mention performance issues and the like.

But I don't think we have to go past the first point - the region blocking. Why are people still playing this game, when the developer's parent company just treats everyone like shit? Why do people just accept SNOY's unacceptable premise that they shouldn't be allowed to play this game with people from countries who don't have PSN? It's because the standard has been set that low, and people see it as completely justifiable, or not worth caring about. It makes no sense for a PC game, distributed on Steam to be region blocked just because SNOY doesn't offer their wondrous and benevolent Faggotstation network services in those countries. 30 thousand peak players on steam today. Disgusting. Game of the year? Nah.

None of this occurs to the average person that plays these games. They just slop them up and never question any of it. Whether you're playing early access garbage or "finished" games with massive design issues and straight up riddled with bugs, the standard is in the toilet, and I am alienated from it.

I do have hope that the industry will crash soon, and we will witness another golden age rebith, like with the NES in the 80s. I have been hoping that for a good while now. But I can only hope beyond hope that more people come to the realization that the original Resident Evil 4 completely shits on the remake, which is trash and made me feel ripped off for even wasting bandwidth and time pirating it.

 

[Judge Dredd]

I do have hope that the industry will crash soon

It already has.

we will witness another golden age rebith, like with the NES in the 80s

That really depends on your expectations. I've heard Nintendo doomsday cultists hoping Nintendo will swoop in and bring back pixel art platformers. Not going to happen. Nintendo is moderately pozzed and is currently focused on suing palworld and taking down ROM sites.

However, we are seeing the rise of indies and the slow return of AA. Yet I see people reject that, screaming that they don't count because reasons. It has to be reboots of AAA franchises they grew up with, even though time and again they're rebooted as slop for "the modern audience".

I can only hope beyond hope that more people come to the realization that the original Resident Evil 4 completely shits on the remake, which is trash and made me feel ripped off for even wasting bandwidth and time pirating it.

I thought that already happened?

No one in their right mind would consider Palworld to be a goty contender. If they did, it would only further prove my point: That I am alienated from what people seem to expect and be satisfied with.

I'm going to give a metaphor using film, even though they're not all the same year, it will hopefully illustrate what I'm trying to say.

The Game Awards is purely AAA advertising. This would like the Oscars giving awards to slop like The Last Jedi and Ghostbusters Answer The Call. They don't reflect films people actually like.

Then there's films like Extraction and John Wick that, even if you personally don't like, are more deserving of an award than the crap above.

Extraction and John Wick don't match the standard set by classics like Die Hard, The Matrix, or Indiana Jones. I might agree, but it doesn't really matter. They are the best of a bad crop. Not every year in gaming is going to be 1998 or 2008, in the same way not every year in film is going to be 1984.

Going back to games. You say Helldivers 2 and Palworld shouldn't be GOTY contenders. What should be?

 

[Soycast Guy]

There was a survey or study that said the vast majority of young people are playing games more than 10 years old

To be fair this is mainly referring to fortnite, Minecraft, or gta5. Young people aren’t playing your usual slop title but they aren’t exactly playing the great games of the past. The most “hardcore” they get is Elden Ring.

 

[Wodanaz]

It already has.

Starfield: $657m sales
Call of Duty: 500m total units sold
Black Ops 6: Sales up 60% from last year
Diablo Immortal: $525m in 12 months
Fortnite: $5.6b in 12 months
Genshin Impact: $1.5b in 12 months
Fifa: $1.1b in 12 months

Resident Evil 4 remake: 8m total units sold in 18 months

Resident Evil 4: 3.6m total units sold in 24 months, 12m total sales accounting for all 20 versions over the last 15 years

This is not a crash, it's the direct opposite of a crash. The gaming industry has eclipsed the film industry in terms of profits. A crash is when Atari fucks up so badly that it is undeniable to even the most slack jawed idiot, leading to massive losses and eventually the total collapse of the gaming market.

That really depends on your expectations.

Very simple. It will be when the majority of developers are people like Satoru Iwata, as opposed to people like Neil Druckmann.

 

[30+GameOvers]

But I can only hope beyond hope that more people come to the realization that the original Resident Evil 4 completely shits on the remake, which is trash and made me feel ripped off for even wasting bandwidth and time pirating

Nobody ever praised RE4 Demake over the original aside from journos, paid shills and crapcom fanboys(so subhumans who shouldn't be taken seriously).

Give it 5 to 10 years and you're going to have people saying Starfield is a great game because it's what they came to age with.

lol, lmao even
Even the most dedicated Bethesda cultists dropped this game months ago. Nobody cared about it when the DLC came out. I would know, I got banned from that thread because I bullied the few people still talking about it too hard. Nobody is ever going to remember Starfield as anything but a flop, you can't even fix this game with mods. If you picked a different game as your example, I might be inclined to agree with you, but oh boy this was a bad game to prove your case.

 

[Wodanaz]

Nobody ever praised RE4 Demake over the original aside from journos, paid shills and crapcom fanboys(so subhumans who shouldn't be taken seriously).

That's... my point... bro...

 

[30+GameOvers]

That's... my point... bro...

I know, I just want to make it clear to people who weren't there that there was a genuine belief that this was a common criticism from gamers. IGN and the like tried to normalize it, by talking about how the original is "outdated" and praised the 10/10 demake for "updating" the game. Of course, with time(around when Crowbcat released his video), people who actually played the original made their case louder than the paid shills or delusional capcom fanboys, and I haven't really seen anyone talk about the game since unless it's to criticize it. You still see some cocksucker trying to push this false narrative that everyone loved the demake over the original from time to time, so it's best to post a reminder that they're full of shit. Especially for people who weren't there when this shitstorm was going down.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Starfield: $657m sales
Call of Duty: 500m total units sold
Black Ops 6: Sales up 60% from last year
Diablo Immortal: $525m in 12 months
Fortnite: $5.6b in 12 months
Genshin Impact: $1.5b in 12 months
Fifa: $1.1b in 12 months

Resident Evil 4 remake: 8m total units sold in 18 months

Resident Evil 4: 3.6m total units sold in 24 months, 12m total sales accounting for all 20 versions over the last 15 years

You mention Resident Evil 4 Remake, which has still sold less than Resident Evil 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. Unless I'm missing something.


It's interesting what you leave out of that equation. Budget and install base.

It's like when journos were praising the success of Dragon Age Veilguard because it sold a million copies, failing to mention that the game cost 300 million to make.

 

[Wodanaz]

I know, I just want to make it clear to people who weren't there that there was a genuine belief that this was a common criticism from gamers. IGN and the like tried to normalize it, by talking about how the original is "outdated" and praised the 10/10 demake for "updating" the game. Of course, with time(around when Crowbcat released his video), people who actually played the original made their case louder than the paid shills or delusional capcom fanboys, and I haven't really seen anyone talk about the game since unless it's to criticize it. You still see some cocksucker trying to push this false narrative that everyone loved the demake over the original from time to time, so it's best to post a reminder that they're full of shit. Especially for people who weren't there when this shitstorm was going down.

Well now that you've laid it all out, I no longer feel alienated from current year videogames! Thank you, my greatest ally

>looks at re4 remake sales figures

Um bro, are you just deliberately ignoring what I'm saying? People are buying this slop, so it will continue to be made. See E;R's rant. RE4 remake's fate was sealed when millions of people slopped up RE2 remake. The formula continued to profit them to the tune of 8 million fucking sales. They will keep producing shit like this, and not give a fuck about the vocal minority of autistic spergs that recognize how much worse it is than the shit they used to make.

 

[30+GameOvers]

You mention Resident Evil 4 Remake, which has still sold less than Resident Evil 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. Unless I'm missing something.


It's interesting what you leave out of that equation. Budget and install base.

It's like when journos were praising the success of Dragon Age Veilguard because it sold a million copies, failing to mention that the game cost 300 million to make.

It's telling when you see people discussing the OG game to this day but nobody really talks about the demake, except for a few normalfags and scorn fanboys who still play it. Even then, it's usually "welp, that exists" instead of talking about it with any sort of enthusiasm.

Well now that you've laid it all out, I no longer feel alienated from current year videogames! Thank you, my greatest ally

>looks at re4 remake sales figures

Um bro, are you just deliberately ignoring what I'm saying? People are buying this slop, so it will continue to be made. See E;R's rant. RE4 remake's fate was sealed when millions of people slopped up RE2 remake. The formula continued to profit them to the tune of 8 million fucking sales. They will keep producing shit like this, and not give a fuck about the vocal minority of autistic spergs that recognize how much worse it is than the shit they used to make.

Capcom makes slop, capcucks eat slop
Good, let them. I will continue to mock, then ignore them just like I always have.

 

[Wodanaz]

You mention Resident Evil 4 Remake, which has still sold less than Resident Evil 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. Unless I'm missing something.

It's interesting what you leave out of that equation. Budget and install base.

You are missing the fact that it took the original 15 years to garner 12m sales across every system imaginable (imagine the porting budgets), and at massively reduced prices, whereas the remake achieved two thirds of that in less than two years. We can assume the development cost was roughly 100m, let's say another 100m for advertising, which still leaves an estimated ~200-300m net profit for re4 remake. That is a clear indicator to Capcom that they should continue making games like it. They will do that, people will buy them, but I will not. That's all I'm saying.

Incidentally, re5 sucks, re6 is just retarded, and I don't care about the rest of the series. But I'm sure there are many who miss the classic ps1 games. I can relate.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Even the most dedicated Bethesda cultists dropped this game months ago. Nobody cared about it when the DLC came out. I would know, I got banned from that thread because I bullied the few people still talking about it too hard. Nobody is ever going to remember Starfield as anything but a flop, you can't even fix this game with mods. If you picked a different game as your example, I might be inclined to agree with you, but oh boy this was a bad game to prove your case.

I'm not even proving a "case", there's no case to be proven since I'm talking about how trends are and what will be 10 years from now. You could literally pick any shit game from today and you'll have people praising it because of the nostalgia/memories in 10 years.

If you want any proof of this, you can look at the Zelda cycle, you can look at the people who fondly remember 3D Mortal Kombat today. There's endless examples of this, Starfield wasn't a proof of a point but meant to be a hyperbolic example of what happens thanks to nostalgia.

The fact you ignore the point because of a hatred of a game is a great example of why I take Kiwifarms taste and opinions at arms length though. "I'd agree with you if you just picked a game I don't hate." lol, lmao even.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

There are two wolves inside me.
One wants xcom 3 to be announced.
The other knows it'll be woke slop when it does.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I'm not even proving a "case", there's no case to be proven since I'm talking about how trends are and what will be 10 years from now. You could literally pick any shit game from today and you'll have people praising it because of the nostalgia/memories in 10 years.

If you want any proof of this, you can look at the Zelda cycle, you can look at the people who fondly remember 3D Mortal Kombat today. There's endless examples of this, Starfield wasn't a proof of a point but meant to be a hyperbolic example of what happens thanks to nostalgia.

The fact you ignore the point because of a hatred of a game is a great example of why I take Kiwifarms taste and opinions at arms length though. "I'd agree with you if you just picked a game I don't hate." lol, lmao even.

I guarantee you that you're the only person on this site defending Starfield right now. Think about that for one second.

There are two wolves inside me.
One wants xcom 3 to be announced.
The other knows it'll be woke slop when it does.

Nu-XCOM is garbage. I just want Phoenix Point 2.