🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[Osama Bin Laden]

alright guys i'm up to the second week in terms of burt content but I've hit a point where I'm too tired to work on it. i will work on the morning, but it will be finished pretty soon at the current pace I'm at

 

[Character]

Now that the show is over, I gotta say I still think people overreacted to the Brandon shit. Not saying it's not disgusting, not saying he shouldn't have been kicked off the show, just that it was unreasonable to expect the fish to react to the situation in any other way. Just hear me out.

I keep thinking about the same situation but flipped politically. What if the show was made by left-leaning people for a libtard audience and the contestants were mostly edgy internet people? What if they revealed one of the contestants had said "nigger" on the internet? From the perspective of the host and the audience, that would be a absolutely unacceptable and that contestant would need to get kicked immediately. How would the other contestants react though? From their point of view, even if he did say that, it's not a big deal, a bit cringe maybe but who cares. Of course, the socially intelligent ones could realize what the audience wants and act accordingly (while alienating themselves in the eyes of the other fish so not a total non-brainer) but most people would probably react just like the fish in S3 reacted to Brandon. For them, it's not so serious and people getting mad at it are just politically sperging. From their perspective, child drag shit isn't a slippery slope towards child abuse, it's just self-expression, just like from our perspective saying "nigger" doesn't have to mean anything bigger than that. In this mirror universe the audience would be sperging about the contestants literally advocating for genocide etc. just because they didn't instantly behead the retard after seeing a screenshot of some edgy language.

Once again, I don't like child drag shit. I'm not defending Brandon. I just don't like it when people can't see things clearly because of their beliefs, regardless of their validity. This has nothing to do with the link between gay shit and pedophilia (very real) or any other ideological stuff, this is just about seeing things from someone else's persepective and understanding their actions.

 

[ye's Official KF Burner]

I think there were a lot of good folks this season. Hope to see a number of them back as freeloaders. La'Ron, Turbo, Mizzy, Kawan, and Star would be so cool to have come back. No more Fatty PLEASE.

 

[Blackstar]

Tayleigh, Greg, and Shinji were all paid what they were promised. What are you talking about?

Tay had 4k deducted from her winnings and split between TJ and Shinji because of the money stealing challenge. At the end they brought Shinji to the attic where he was presented the golden beetle which was previously announced to have been worth money only for him to get nothing for it. And Greg stayed on until the end after he wanted more money and they agreed to it only to pay him much less (he wasn't supposed to be there more than a couple hours in the first place).

 

[Lowercase I internet]

Remember when we referred to season 2 as being the highest of highs and the lowest of lows? Now it doesn’t even have that title lol. Season three dwarfs it in that aspects and season two has been outclassed in just about every metric now.

As for casting fans as fish people have pointed out why it’s not a good idea. Unfair advantage, inability to be shocked, and a desire to be artificial to appeal to the audience. The best fish of season two weren’t great because they were fans, they were great because a part of their real personalities couldn’t be hidden. In other words, they were very mentally ill and that made them unpredictable despite them being “in” on the joke.

They’d possibly work as plants or as freeloaders. Normal fish not so much. They are far less susceptible to gaslights. Things like the Hulu gaslight or utilization of old freeloaders will not work with fans.

 

[Kitty Cat Man]

so what ended up happening with FH2, did they ever speak on why they were kicked from the house?

i don't buy "zoning issue" tbh.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

I would also like them do something with more bro type idiots. I liked Tony and Kwan from FH 2.0 because they were just moronic horny bros who were just getting into stupid drama.

I liked Kuwait, but I didn't like Tony, because Tony was just too dumb. He'd get stuck in a loop and not absorb what anyone else was saying, just like Ian did with Jobe over the word "nigga". Only when Ian did it, it was funny, because of Jobe. And "nigga".

I just don't like it when people can't see things clearly because of their beliefs, regardless of their validity.

I understand what you're trying to say here, but I disagree with it. You dislike Overton window swings that go from one evil, towards a center of rationality, and straight back to evil, just on the opposite side of the spectrum. I can agree with that, and I hate to see it happen too.

I just don't agree with you about the Brandon thing, because this year's cast WAS liberal. Smaack had an hours-long tantrum over Alex saying nigga. The liberal show you're talking about would crucify anyone who said nigga. Supposedly, Luke got kicked off of Big Brother for that same reason. But they were all fucking fine with Brandon, because LGBTQWTFBBQ people are the liberals' darlings no matter how terrible or predatory they are.

The only excuse I can make for this year's cast is, maybe the wiggers didn't impress on them how bad Brandon really is. I also think that some of the worst shit about Brandon didn't come out until later. it's unclear which fish really knew, and how MUCH they knew.
The wiggers should have taken their time, put together a video, shown it to the whole house in front of Brandon so everyone was on the same page. THEN they should have told them privately, "Open season on Brandon". I don't think Sam could have tolerated him for a minute longer than he did though.

 

[jallsballs]

rewatching daily recaps and tbh i don't think production really fucked that much up, the only massive misstep was leaving the house and (supposedly) they had to do that

 

[Character]

I just don't agree with you about the Brandon thing, because this year's cast WAS liberal. Smaack had an hours-long tantrum over Alex saying nigga. The liberal show you're talking about would crucify anyone who said nigga. Supposedly, Luke got kicked off of Big Brother for that same reason. But they were all fucking fine with Brandon, because LGBTQWTFBBQ people are the liberals' darlings no matter how terrible or predatory they are.

I don't see how that's disagreeing with my point. The cast being liberal, getting offended about "nigga" and being fine with Brandon is exactly what I said, just as the imaginary liberal show's chud cast would get offended about Brandon but be fine with "nigga". My point is that nobody should be surprised that this was the case.

it's unclear which fish really knew, and how MUCH they knew.

All the more reason to not lose your shit at the contestants. Casting liberal people, putting them in a situation where social pressure is on them to conform and expecting them to reject all of their programming when Sam shows them a screenshot is retarded. Keep in mind, the link between drag shit and child abuse isn't a universally known fact and to their knowledge, all Brandon did was make a dress that someone ordered. The most annoying thing to me is painting the fish as pedo supporters or enablers, disregarding the fact that the fish don't see it that way. Even if (when) the link between child drag and child abuse is real, the people you're losing your shit over don't know that. In their minds, they're supporting human rights. I'd be completely on board the hate train if the fish were actually knowingly supporting a pedophile.

 

[Didnt Use Real Email Once]

Are there any tow company youtubers that operate in the Las Vegas area? I wonder what the chances are for a crossover epilogue being uploaded in a week or two.

 

[Cactus Concerto]

What if they revealed one of the contestants had said "nigger" on the internet?

Still harping on about this when I intended to make a post about the show being over checks with the thread, I guess. I've let sleeping dogs lie on this topic but this is an inherently broken comparison.

What does says nigger directly lead to? Hating black people? Grooming black children? The slaughter of Africans? The answer is nothing. Nigger. Nigger, nigger, nigger. Nothing fucking happened. When I scream nigger in an empty room, it leads to nothing. When I scream nigger on the street, reactions will vary but every action taken by outside parties is purely their own and has nothing to do with me. If a black man whips out a knife and stabs me to death because I yelled nigger at the sky, he's a fucking psychopath who had likely been looking for an excuse to stab somebody. This is before we bring in details like outward appearance, gender, time of day, location, and so on. But even in a situation like that, the likeliest victim is not a black person but whoever said nigger in the first place.

Saying nigger is not even a crime, my nigger, especially on the fucking internet. Being scared of people saying nigger and treating it like violence is fucking retarded. Anyone who pearl clutches over the use of nigger in any context based purely on the race of the vocalizer does not give a fuck about black people; it is performative hogwash that demeans African-Americans and paints them as waifish, thin-skinned idiots. If the black people they were protecting from this word lived in such a harsh world, a mere word would not phase them: they'd have bigger fish to fucking fry in life, like providing for their families and staying alive. If things were really bad, I think they'd be more concerned about getting a bullet in their skulls than a scary anonymous figure saying the no-no word on Twitter.

This is why saying nigger is not a big deal and anyone's alarm over it being said on the internet at some point is ridiculous.

Now, what is the purpose of children in drag?

The left claims it is for self-expression. The child is not expressing themselves by wearing what their parents bought for them. The child is not expressing themselves by going to shows, events, and participating in activities their parents specifically chose to take them to. The child has no agency in a situation where mommy or daddy buys them a drag costume from an online merchant and tells them to wear it.

Self-expression or sheer childlike curiosity would be taking what they already have at home and putting it on themselves. Rummaging through mom's closet and throwing on a dress to pretend they're a princess, parading down the hallway at home wearing dad's top hat whilst in their diapers and claiming they're Stooge. The reason this is okay at home is because if the child is actively looking to present themselves in some or other way in the safety of familiar faces, this shit is fine. To the child it's not about drag, it's not about gender politics, it's not about sexuality: it's a child experiencing the world and being a child.

The moment mommy opens her purse to make her son dress like an older man pretending to be a woman, this stops being about a child being a child. Maybe mommy is taken by the mind versus and doesn't know any better and truly just thinks their child in a dress would look cute, maybe the child really did want a pretty dress and mom is just fulfilling the child's wishes and plans to have the kid parade around at home this Christmas. That's sketchy and a bit weird but somewhat harmless if we assume the absolute best of the mother in this scenario; I assume this is what the bulk of the people in the house believe or want to believe child drag is: a woke label for the simple act of dress up and playtime. As far as they knew, Brandon was a designer, sold a product, and caught flack for it.

I agreed to disagree with the cast for this. I really enjoyed Star and did not like her fanning the fag's farts and tears nor worrying over his safety near Burt considering Brandon was the one making an effort to look younger and appealing towards potential mates (TTD), but I let it go because she had not been shown anything from production and everything she knew, as far as I could remember, came directly from Brandon himself as a counter to what Luke said.

I took issue with Tony and Kawan because they loudly proclaimed to have an issue with what Sam showed them then pussied out for the sake of social points with the women. That's flaky and dumb, but they were flaky and dumb bros, which added to their personalities and made me want to watch them suffer even more. Having their opinions on something like this added to the experience of watching them on the show and painted a broader picture of how they at least wanted to come across to different people.

It was largely Brandon, Payton, and Brandon's bodysuit wearing fag hag that seemed to know about the slippery slope of children in drag. However, two of them were villains (Breezy had been conspiring and acting up since she got there, she was ready to Head Bitch her way through this show if she had the chance) so them having morals that counted those of the audience was a bonus: now we are even more invested in watching these people sufferer, awesome! Slimeball was in a similar boat, where he was presented a continued path to redemption and instead went all in for a pack of hyenas that tossed him out the moment he outlived his usefulness. From an entertainment perspective, I ate that shit up. It was poetic watching the lion put to sleep that night.

Payton, Burt, and Binx were the only people whose opinions on this issue truly mattered to the audience because these were the fuckers we had been rooting for since day one, AND because they were given the opportunity to see and learn more about this situation.

• Slimeball got put into the villain category with Luke on day one and had only really started to garner respect despite his villain status during FishTank Proper, so him falling back to his old ways wasn't a surprise.
• Binx torpedoed her popularity with audience members that weren't simps because she failed the assignment despite getting a head start with Sam giving her instructions to make Brandon an outcast; her stupidity and insistence to continuously go to bat for Brandon painted a portrait of a woman who was fine with this shit even outside the scope of "playing the game".
• Burt did what everyone assumed Burt would do: fawn over the nearest white male in the hopes he could shove his cock inside an asshole. The details around him were foggy at the time but he's an overtly sexual sex-crazed autist who jerked off within hours of being in the house and openly stated he wanted to play a rapist and didn't do back shit largely because of the consequences attached to such actions; I don't think anyone is really looking for Burt to be the moral guide here. Burt was content and throughout the Brandon fiasco, he provided content.
• Payton was on the cusp (again) of growth and then reminded everyone she was the boring girl doing nothing most of the time who considered herself a lesbian and was a model in an industry basically controlled by gay men. Cue shock, disappointment, and becoming irredeemable in many eyes because she tattled on Sam and clearly did not see what was wrong with the situation despite arguably knowing the most from the remaining contestants. Fucking Ron knew this shit wasn't right; the bar was not high, Payton.

When production shows you an image with a child's head uncomfortably close to a man's penis and alarm bells do not start ringing, there is no saving you. Context? It's a child in drag standing next to someone from the drag community with his head near the man's penis. The 'drag' in this situation doesn't even become the focal point: THERE IS A CHILD'S HEAD SUSPICIOUSLY CLOSE TO A GROWN MAN'S PENIS. WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE FUCKING WOO.

Brandon posted this and was okay with it. Alarm bells. That's it. That's how deep it needed to get for these people to get the switch to turn on and it did not. Everything else, like the slippery slop and the abuse and the horrors and the multitude of connections Brandon has to vile and despicable people, did not need to be brought up for the picture to be incriminating. The issue is this: a grown man was being creepy with a child, Brandon does not see why this is creepy. The fish failing to see why themselves is what caught them flack.

Again, La'Ron is as gay as the nine flaming hells and chimped out over the word nigga but my nigga knew Brandon's shit stank. The rest of them did not have an excuse. Period.

To circle back to an earlier question: what is the purpose of children in drag?

Entertainment. Who is being entertained by the thoughts of young boys and young girls dressing up as flamboyant and overly exaggerated examples of the opposite sex? Adults. Adults in night clubs and adult settings, adults trying to normalize an adult hobby/lifestyle as something children as young as five (if not younger) should have access to. Adults advocating for children to be swallowed into yet another branch of an industry that spits up, chews on, and abuses even grown adults in the same space.

Wee. Fucking. Woo.

The most annoying thing to me is painting the fish as pedo supporters or enablers, disregarding the fact that the fish don't see it that way.

Brandon is a potential pedo/pedo enabler and likely a grooming victim who perpetuates the cycle or at the very least turns a blind eye to the horrors of the community he's in because he hid the full truth from those not in the know whilst providing people with access to goods and services that might feed into the machine, and he has a skeevy history with terrible connections. Breezy is friends with Brandon outside of the tank and is okay with that; not a good look. Payton, who seemed to know of the child and this incident before Sam even brought it up, is an orbiter of this scene and does not see the issue with it; even with that said, it's likely she doesn't realize the problem because she's been forced to drink too much of the cool-aid. People had a huge issue with Brandon, accepted Breezy as she had already shown herself to be of dubious moral cloth from a reality TV show perspective and wanted to see her fucked with, and felt disappointed/let down by Payton and likely upset over her failing to clinch her growth arc on the show despite having numerous opportunities to do so.

The Famous House 2 fish outside of them are largely liberal-leaning and do not get the problem, as painted to them by Brandon. This very thread more or less stopped giving any of them flake about what happened a few days after Brandon left the house because they had flaws and personalities that could be hounded on, mocked, and enjoyed as entertainment outside of the Brandon incident. For some of them - Tony, Kawan, Turbo to a lesser extent - Brandon was a single sprinkle of shit on their sundaes. They had more to offer/other things to be hated for.

Binx, Burt, and Slimeball's opinions were seen as a betrayal and probably taken more personally considering we had been with them for weeks by that point and they had been given ample information and opportunity to get more information, strategize together, and figure out a way forward when dealing with this. Quietly literally all they had to do was SHUT. THE FUCK. UP. But Slimeball, being who he is, claimed it wasn't his problem because him winning was the most important thing. Unsurprising. Burt wanted sex and couldn't see past his penis. Unsurprising. Binx went up and fucking down being a flippity floppity cunt about the issue even after saying "That's horrifying!" whilst in Sam's presence, then saying she would totally fuck with Brandon when out of his company; no, this doesn't mean she's automatically a pedo enabler, it means she's a piece of human vaporwave and a chameleon that will change on a whim to satisfy whoever she believes her audience is at the time; in other words, a Twitch thot.

Burt and Slimeball's reactions fell directly in line with the people we had seen throughout the show. Binx and Payton were especially disappointing I think because people wanted to believe there was more to them than there was, and there simply wasn't. After making it through Fish Tank Proper, this revelation hits hard. Binx got wishy washy about it, Payton went on the attack for the 'other team' over it. Of course people got pissed over it and of course people will stay pissed over it, even though there continued to be other reasons not to like them. Binx going through an entire era of NO, YOU DUMB BITCH! directly after the Brandon saga proves this.

Are these people actually enabling pedophiles? For the most part, no.
Are any people dying because they got called nigger? No.

Do people still want to lynch any person who isn't black enough for saying the N-word? Yes.
Do viewers of Fish Tank still want any person who didn't BTFO Brandon, particularly those with 'insider knowledge', to suffer the consequences commonly associated with Fish Tank and its contestants? Yes.

Welcome to the Fish Tank.

 

[Raw Onion Enjoyer]

From their perspective, child drag shit isn't a slippery slope towards child abuse, it's just self-expression, just like from our perspective saying "nigger" doesn't have to mean anything bigger than that.

That's the problem you absolute retard. The only people who think it isn't child abuse are politisperg lefties afraid of appearing -phobic. The topic has been done to death and they didn't just "not care", they did way more than that.

Once again, I don't like child drag shit. I'm not defending Brandon.

Go back to /tv/ or better yet kill yourself you pedo shielding faggot.

 

[Big Brother 101]

I loved watching Mizzy step on that scale and only weigh 128-129lbs. SUFFAH PAYPIGS! SUFFAH!

did people really think she weighed more than that? tbh i'm surprised she weighs that much.

I'm aware BMI is an imperfect metric for a number of reasons, but still, if she really is 4ft 11" and weighs 128 lbs then as a female that would give her a BMI of about 25.8 - which is just about in the 'Overweight' category ("Healthy" range is counted as 18.5 to 25).

https://www.calculator.net/bmi-calculator.html?cage=29&csex=f&cheightfeet=5&cheightinch=10&cpound=160&cheightmeter=149.9&ckg=58&printit=0&ctype=metric&x=Calculate

 

[Sneedifarms]

I'm aware BMI is an imperfect metric for a number of reasons, but still, if she really is 4ft 11" and weighs 128 lbs then as a female that would give her a BMI of about 25.8 - which is just about in the 'Overweight' category ("Healthy" range is counted as 18.5 to 25).

https://www.calculator.net/bmi-calculator.html?cage=29&csex=f&cheightfeet=5&cheightinch=10&cpound=160&cheightmeter=149.9&ckg=58&printit=0&ctype=metric&x=Calculate

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Mizzyposting is very funny and all, but everyone seems to be neglecting the fact that she had her bag and shoes on when she weighed herself at the Heart Attack Grill. It’s not an extra 10lbs or anything, but she’s definitely not overweight even if she is 4’11”, and we don’t know her exact height. I’ve seen everything from 4’10” to 5’2” get thrown around.

 

[Blackstar]

In other news, this was posted in sneedchat and comes from 4chan, an archive of everything Binx for simps and archivers alike:

https://mega.nz/folder/Hi5DTJaC#m8-yNseF9tHDQX0PtEL7HA

 

[Aim For the Top!]

Can someone fill me in on why people call Sam's gaggle the wiggers? Don't think I've seen them act especially black, except for maybe the Ball Brothers concert.

 

[Big Brother 101]

I'm sure Sam saw that and realized "Why even give him the money if he's just going to give it away?" and that's why he gambled it.

It's bizarre that it appears there are plenty of people out there who genuinely believe Sam gambled and lost that $50k.

All the cameras "coincidentally" moved away from the roulette wheel just before the ball stopped spinning and never showed its final landing spot...

Sam even went to great lengths at the beginning to tell Burt (and in turn the audience): "I'm a professional entertainer. This is what I do brother, alright. It is not a gamble, this is just entertainment, this is a TV stunt [...] We're not here to gamble, we're here to make TV for people [...] This is a TV stunt, this is not actual gambling:".

They likely just found a small casino who would agree to let them quickly film a scene there for a few $k.

 

[SpergChud]

Can someone fill me in on why people call Sam's gaggle the wiggers? Don't think I've seen them act especially black, except for maybe the Ball Brothers concert.

balenci balenci balenci bitty im fitted

 

[Big Brother 101]

Burt's main identity online is Daddy Burt Obeng, and don't you forget it!

Burt also said yesterday that he got a certification to be a Catholic minister.

I presume his name for that would be Father Burt O'Beng.

 

[Fishcakes]

How would the other contestants react though? From their point of view, even if he did say that, it's not a big deal, a bit cringe maybe but who cares

This is literally what happened to Luke.
If you don't think a modern reality show cast would clutch their pearls and gasp, faint, gnash their teeth if it was revealed one of the cast said nigger then you've drunk too much of the Kool-Aid. Even if they don't care they have to be seen to be acting like they do.
People are hauled over the coals for singing popular chart topping rap songs that contain the word "nigga" for fucks sake.
I genuinely don't understand the point you are trying to make other than "Don't be so closed minded about a twerking 9 year old in fetish gear in front of a room full of salivating homosexuals."