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Can't talk about ammo availability, but most revolvers have more moving parts than autoloaders do. Lots of gears and mating surfaces to wear away or bind up. I love revolvers but they are definitely not a simpler design.
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So I got some surplus 8mm Turk ammo from Maryland Munitions for a M24. Should I count myself lucky I haven't bothered to go to the range yet?
They might have been over a hundred years ago when nobody knew how to make a reliable autoloader.
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I've heard it's warm, the Pakistani 8mm is the explodey kind.
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they allow you to shoot reloaded cartridges that you made drunk while watching Hogan's Heroes. they'll eventually blow up the revolver but then you can blame it on the gun
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Freedom Munitions is trash, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a P320 problem. Difficult to tell from the video, but I wonder if it was out of battery when the kaboom happened. Wouldn't be the first time with a P320. Guy's lucky he wasn't injured.
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Not to dox myself too much here but I'm in a pretty gun-unfriendly state looking for a first firearm for CC/self-defense/range shooting. Never shot a gun before and don't know much.
So I'm looking at handguns because magazine size restrictions really make any rifle ownership a pain, I'd imagine. I really like the style of the 1911, specifically the SW1911, but I'm looking at the Springfield 1911 as well.
Anyone got some advice or tips on where to go from here? I still need to apply for my LTC so I'm just window shopping right now. Also suggestions on a first handgun would be cool.
So I'm looking at handguns because magazine size restrictions really make any rifle ownership a pain, I'd imagine. I really like the style of the 1911, specifically the SW1911, but I'm looking at the Springfield 1911 as well.
Anyone got some advice or tips on where to go from here? I still need to apply for my LTC so I'm just window shopping right now. Also suggestions on a first handgun would be cool.
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What is the magazine capacity restriction? I would advise against a 1911. Blanket recommendation is a 9mm, polymer frame, striker fired gun of some flavor, BUT maybe your restrictions preclude that?
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10 round maximum. No restriction against striker-fired handguns as far as I can see. Also considering a Glock 17 or a Beretta 92FS. (not striker-fired but I don't think double action would be too difficult to get used to) I just figured .45 ACP might be the move to maximize potential stopping power with the limited ammunition permitted.
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I found a Smith and Wesson 629 for $800........
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Do you have a gun store near you that will let you try shooting a gun before you buy it? Glocks are really good pistols for first time buyers. You might want to look at some of the S&W M&P 2.0 variants too. I think the Walther PDP is a good pistol too, but there's not as much aftermarket support for it compared to Glocks and M&Ps. I'm sure there are some good concealed holsters for the various PDP variants by now, though.
As far as "stopping power" goes, 9mm has killed a lot of people just fine. All you need to do is carry good hollow points. I prefer Speer Gold Dots and Federal HSTs. If you're nervous about only have 10 round magazines, you can carry an extra mag in your pocket, or buy one of the concealed mag pouches that are out there. Practice your reloads if you go that route.
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It looks like bad ammo, the frame just as it goes off shows some gas to the rear of the slide that isn't present in stills from other shots. That it locked up the slide to the FCU supports the idea.
note the gas behind the slide as it goes off
For what it's worth, it's got enough weight that it's easy enough for just about anyone to learn how to shoot without developing a flinch from recoil. The grip is an acquired taste, bigger hands will be more comfortable but again it's great for learning.
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There's literally nothing wrong with 1911's - especially if he's restricted to 10rd magazines. 230gr +P HST turns into a god damn ash tray inside a basketball American's chest cavity.
Just make sure you purchase a sufficient number of Wilson Combat magazines and toss the OEMs into a sock drawer.
Another .45 to look into within the price point is the HK45.
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I would recommend the 45C over the fullsize, as it does everything the HK45 does, but a little smaller. If you get a CT I think the barrels are even about the same length, too. Magazines are interchangeable, the only difference between the 10rnd mags for both is the baseplate, and you don't even really need the C plates to use the 10 round mags in the C, either. 45C magazines are a little bit harder to find (the 8 round carry mags) though.
I do like my HK45 of course, but I only bought it because I got a screaming deal on a factory OD one.
And try the LEM trigger, its pretty nifty.
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The LEM's okay I guess - I keep my HK45 cocked and locked since it spends 99% of it's life on a nighstand and the rest of the time in a kydex holster loaded with .450SMC for outdoors activities.
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A few notes to consider if magazine capacity limits are pushing you away from double-stack 9mms. Getting accurate, quick rounds on target is the most important part of defensive handgun use. 9mm has less recoil allowing for faster follow up shots(especially in smaller cc handguns) and the ammo is less expensive so you can afford to buy more for practice. Most .45 acp 1911s will not max out the 10 round mag cap, so you're actually deciding between 7+1 or 8+1 rounds of 45 or 10+1 rounds of 9mm.
Ultimately none of this matters more than your skills and having the gun on hand when you need it(ie carrying, accessibility at home).
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Glock 17, or 47 (assuming you can get Gen5), or Walther PDP. Other options for Polymer striker guns: S&W M&P 2.0, CZ P10, or Beretta APX. If carry size is an issue you can go down to a Glock 19, or its' analogue in the other brands.
As someone else suggested, see if you can find a rental range, or a gun store with a rental range. Frequently they give a discount on a gun after a rental, or give a free rental with a purchase. Keep in mind that since you are brand new, you still don't have the experience to know if a gun is comfortable long term or not so you can't make a goldilocks decision yet. You kinda have to dive in on a platform and go from there. You should be able to get along with any of the above.
You could go with a metal frame DA/SA, but it is a different class of gun which is more expensive, has less options, and more difficult to shoot well for a lot of shooters. The Beretta 92 series has had a bit or a resurgence recently due to the Langdon Tactical Models, but it all looks like gun hipster shit to me. Never been particularly impressed with the 92, and pretty sure they have issues with locking blocks breaking.
Immediately stopping, or not stopping, a person all depends on shot placement and penetration into specific parts of the anatomy. Larger diameter bullets are seldom the deciding factor in that. Many assailants stop after non-fatal, non-disabling wounds, because they realize they don't like being shot. That's as short as I can keep it without going into a long 9mm vs 45ACP spergout.
I have tried all of these (Striker, DA/SA, 1911 in 9mm, .40, and .45) over many years, and come back to the Polymer 9mm striker guns listed above. I would still do the same with a 10 round limit.
The majority of manufacturers don't put in the level of quality, and detail that a 1911 deserves. Yes, the triggers are nice, and the heft contributes to an easy to shoot gun. But it is still a long, heavy, eight round gun that can be very picky about certain things. It's a level of user knowledge, and maintenance that isn't for most beginners. It's a steep learning curve on the inner workings of the gun.
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More about the Russian homebrew rat/drone-shot:
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If you're in a state with a magazine capacity limit you might as well buy a revolver, 357 rules. Just ignore the fudds
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Smith and Wesson makes a 8 shot 357 that if I was in a restricted state would be very tempting.