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It's just hard, in the end. Abusive and manipulative men - a group which includes all troons, since they are at their core manipulators - can make it really, really fucking hard for women to escape them, and unfortunately society in many ways aids and abets those abusers and manipulators.
To add to all these points:

- Troons seem to specifically want to go after the sweet and naive "bring out the good in people by being good to them" types. They think you can fix these kinds of things with kindness. Abusers have to pick their victims carefully, as someone more cynical and with a stronger sense of self is less likely to be trapped.
- The abusive behavior doesn't begin when they officially troon out. By the time they do that's it's been years of manipulative and toxic behavior and introducing various things into the relationship that lead up to the full troon out (read trans widows stories there is always some form of degeneracy they begin to want to introduce, aspects of crossdressing they begin to introduce as a "just for fun" thing like makeup and nails, and the list goes on). So by the time it's "call my Nancy" the wives have been indoctrinated into the abuse, so to speak. There is a reason battered wives will stick up for their husbands or go back to them. Part of abuse is brainwashing you into accepting it.
- It's hard enough to get out of a "normal" abusive situation but troons are coddled and enabled and women who express disgust and want to leave such husbands are seen as bigots a lot of the time which adds to the difficult of getting away because there is now an added political element to their decisions. The support network that might've otherwise been there is gone as they'll see her motivations for wanting to leave as out of some sort of transphobia. They actively participate in the gaslighting. (One of the most horrifying aspects of all of this.)
 
Some thoughts based on my private herd

So, when he goes to his wife and says he wants to be called Sally, she'll play along with it, not knowing that it's already too late

Yep. Mrs Hon Lisa isn’t playing along with it, but she has insisted he speak to their pastor and a gender therapist. She thinks this is a new thing that can be cured, not the culmination of years of infidelity (he likes sneaking off to the city and its glory holes) and degeneracy. Mrs Annika828 knew about this when they married but believed him when he said he’d suppress it. She didn’t understand 20 years ago what she was getting into.

Getting a job after years of being a SAHM is difficult to begin with.

Mrs Hon Lisa has a job, but they have a special needs son. Super Hon Meagen and his wife both work, but money is tight. Mrs Annika828 is SAHM. None of these women are flush with cash, and a divorce will make their situation more precarious.

The abusive behavior doesn't begin when they officially troon out. By the time they do that's it's been years of manipulative and toxic behavior and introducing various things into the relationship that lead up to the full troon out (read trans widows stories there is always some form of degeneracy they begin to want to introduce, aspects of crossdressing they begin to introduce as a "just for fun" thing like makeup and nails, and the list goes on).

This is certainly true for Hon Lisa who has complained how vanilla his sex life was until it sputtered out a decade ago. Mrs Hon Lisa wasn’t very adventurous. She also was sexually assaulted by her aunt as a child. Hon Lisa is delusional/selfish enough to hope that they can rekindle romance now that he is cosplaying as her abuser. It looks like prostate cancer has put that idea on the back burner, thank God.

Super Hon Meagen started piercing his nipples, shaving his body hair and experimenting with a more effeminate look before his big announcement. He had also allowed his oldest to troon out at 14. His wife is danger haired and calls herself queer, and last I heard was still playing along. I do wonder how their younger son is handling all of this.

No idea about Annika828, but I suspect he was too shy to try anything with his wife as she has become more Catholic and based.
 
To add to all these points:

- Troons seem to specifically want to go after the sweet and naive "bring out the good in people by being good to them" types. They think you can fix these kinds of things with kindness. Abusers have to pick their victims carefully, as someone more cynical and with a stronger sense of self is less likely to be trapped.
- The abusive behavior doesn't begin when they officially troon out. By the time they do that's it's been years of manipulative and toxic behavior and introducing various things into the relationship that lead up to the full troon out (read trans widows stories there is always some form of degeneracy they begin to want to introduce, aspects of crossdressing they begin to introduce as a "just for fun" thing like makeup and nails, and the list goes on). So by the time it's "call my Nancy" the wives have been indoctrinated into the abuse, so to speak. There is a reason battered wives will stick up for their husbands or go back to them. Part of abuse is brainwashing you into accepting it.
- It's hard enough to get out of a "normal" abusive situation but troons are coddled and enabled and women who express disgust and want to leave such husbands are seen as bigots a lot of the time which adds to the difficult of getting away because there is now an added political element to their decisions. The support network that might've otherwise been there is gone as they'll see her motivations for wanting to leave as out of some sort of transphobia. They actively participate in the gaslighting. (One of the most horrifying aspects of all of this.)
Talking of which, because we haven't had one from here in a while..
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And from a different, "happy post", one year into marriage he troons out, this tiny hand maiden gets her husbands giant hand a new ring.
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Just marveling at the size dif tbh
 
Talking of which, because we haven't had one from here in a while..
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Half the time I feel angry at the surprise trooner and sorry for the poor, misled wife.

And then when the poor misled wife actively handmaidens out and becomes a co-conspirator and co-architect of her own subjugation, calling her husband 'she' and sad at the world that 'she' grew up with the 'wrong experiences' because she had the 'wrong body', but then also kvetching about his consummate selfishness and neediness to internet strangers....then I'm angry at the handmaiden and think the standard you tolerate is the standard you accept.
 
Talking of which, because we haven't had one from here in a while..
Of course it's an "I told you so" situation but I do feel some sympathy. Her troon hubby lied for years and has completely isolated her which was likely his goal. She has nowhere to discuss her frustration and it's clear she wants to leave but can't either due to issues previously mentioned in this thread or the fact she'd be completely alone. Referring to the other troon seeing the wife's friends as a "school playgroup" is an indication she knows it's all just fetishist larping, but she paid the trannytoll and now she's only known as a freak's wife. I hope she finds some nice lady friends to help get her out of there.
 
Of course they have to tell themselves that "I will never get back my friends anyway" and that it would be so bad to be told "I told you so", but unless you called them transphobic bigoted nazis and burned all bridges, they might be the bigger person and be happy to have their friend back, free from the gross troon and manipulation. Sounds to me like she resigned to her fate to be stuck with him forever because it's apparently too scary to think about admitting that you were wrong.
 
It sounds like both of these women have been isolated socially.
The first is a self admitted autist, but the second actually cut people off in favor of the trooning husband.

I can’t help feeling bad as this sounds like the troon husbands are controlling and manipulating the women.

This is increasingly the reality of today’s domestic abusers.

So Troons, as a general rule should be automatically assumed to be sexual perverts, a risk to children and emotional abusers of women.

Plus I hope that autistic woman doesn’t get convinced to poon out because she sounds like a stereotypical man dragged on a shopping trip for make up and dresses.
 
"That all I believe is just a delusion". You considering you don't pass doesn't make you any less delusional.
We’re seeing a few of these “Fucking troons, good thing I’m not like that” troons now. It’s an interesting new dimension to troon self-delusion.
I think not knowing what troonery really is plays into it as well. Like you said, maybe they think it's just a phase or a midlife crisis, so they think maybe they can stick it out until their husband comes to their senses. What it really is is a tumour of the mind. Its roots keep digging deeper until nothing remains of its host's personality. I think that no troon ever just flips a switch either. The eventual trooning out is a culmination of hidden indulgences and ideations over the years. By the time he's openly declaring his fetish, it means the cancer is terminal and there is no going back. He now considers the fetish more important than anything else in his life, his career, his family and his health be fucking damned.

So, when he goes to his wife and says he wants to be called Sally, she'll play along with it, not knowing that it's already too late.
What they also don’t realise is that hubby is also online, where a bunch of other troons are lovebombing him and telling him that only becoming a woman will make him happy, he can become a woman and anyone who opposes this achievable goal or even casts doubt upon it is the enemy. I would advise any woman whose partner troons out to look at mtf subreddits to understand what she’s up against.
And, also like abusers, they tend to lose it and show their true colors when their partner's attention is captured by something else, like a baby, and they're not the center of all attention anymore.
I think it begins before the birth. For a period of nine months, it’s all about his partner. Her welfare and that of the unborn child is paramount. Most guys step up to it as part of the process of fatherhood. Some can’t take it.
 
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Such an entitled whiny loser, they always want the sane straight guys but rarely ever go for other trans people.

"I want cuddles".

This to me is like stumbling upon maggots eating an infested, bloated corpse. I don't know how else to describe it. Also:
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He has a lot of posts like these. All pink and childish stuff, the more like this they are, the more I think they are going to murder a woman to wear her skin.
 
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a lot of these men troon out when their partner is pregnant
Yeah that is a definite pattern that comes up time and time again and its some of the most sickening shit these fucks do. Its like they take some narc injury from the extra attention their wives need when pregnant and instead of doing their fucking duty as a man and stepping up and sorting their shit out, they descend even deeper into whatever secret porn addiction they've been hiding, and Troon out so they flip the attention back on them.

I can be harsh but really I do sometimes have a lot of sympathy for women in that situation, its almost like reverse baby trapping, but intead of a woman doing it to a guy, the Troon does it to their wife, right at the time its most difficult to cut ties, when they're at their most vulnerable these AGP fucks kick the legs out from under them, suddenly the guy who is supposed to be looking after them is mincing around in a fucking Party City wig with a skirt and a Hello Kitty T shrieking "what about MY needs?"
Its so fucked up.

I definitely have sympathy for these women, and that sunk cost fallacy shit makes a lot of sense, its just once the guy goes mask off as a fucking cross dressing deviant, its not gonna get any better, theres never a good time or good way to end a marriage, but being trapped with a fucking AGP freak seems worse than any of the alternatives.

Then again I'm not a woman, the way I look at shit as a dude is never gonna be the same as a woman would.
Its a fucked up situation all around.
If a guy Troons out on his wife (or wice versa and your wife turns into a fucking Pooner) there should be some legal protection, where the marriage is dissolved and custody of any kids goes to the non-insane partner.
Troons seem to specifically want to go after the sweet and naive "bring out the good in people by being good to them" types. They think you can fix these kinds of things with kindness. Abusers have to pick their victims carefully, as someone more cynical and with a stronger sense of self is less likely to be trapped.
This is an important point, from what I've seen when this shit happens it always seems to be a Troon doing it to a women who either has never been the more Type A style woman (who likely wouldn't put up with that shit to begin with) or its someone they have sucessful run down over the course of the relationship to the extent they don't feel confident themselves to stand up. Narcs are very good at identifying and picking people who are more susceptible to their bullshit, and the more malignant type spend time chipping away at the other persons sense of self and encouraging the sort of co-dependance that can leave someone feeling trapped and without options.
Troons are fucking insidious freaks.
 
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Troons seem to specifically want to go after the sweet and naive "bring out the good in people by being good to them" types. They think you can fix these kinds of things with kindness. Abusers have to pick their victims carefully, as someone more cynical and with a stronger sense of self is less likely to be trapped.
This is a real phenomenon, the Kitchen and Jorn troonout couple is a good example. Troons do seem to go for the super-nice, alternative type of lady who are so kind and generous that they could NEVER imagine themselves saying "no" to someone more persecuted than they. Women who have been bullied in the past, who can't muscle up the nerve to be seen as even a slight bit bitchy. When trannies are faced with a backbone, they start generating the "my ex is abusive" narrative and that's terrifying for a woman who needs her public persona to be St. Best Wife.

It's really, REALLY uncomfortable for nice, dumpy ladies to turn on the bitch. They spend their whole lives being seen as the kind, supportive, open minded lefty partner. Asserting themselves is agonizing. They just want to be so nice that everyone wants to get along, and they think that their niceness will make their husbands cave, because they think they have empathy. AGPs can manipulate the shit out of this type of person.
 
And then when the poor misled wife actively handmaidens out and becomes a co-conspirator and co-architect of her own subjugation, calling her husband 'she' and sad at the world that 'she' grew up with the 'wrong experiences' because she had the 'wrong body', but then also kvetching about his consummate selfishness and neediness to internet strangers....then I'm angry at the handmaiden and think the standard you tolerate is the standard you accept.

Part of me agrees, but this particular line got me right in the feels:

I'm going to lose a couple [friends] of mine when my wife comes out. I will miss who I thought they were.

There, where she states her intentions to cut off any of her friends who have her best interests at heart and might try to (like real friends) tell her an uncomfortable truth to save her from herself. Already gearing up for when someone has the temerity to say, sweetie, no, he's a selfish, narcissistic asshole who is using you to live out his fantasies, get gone already. Alienating anyone who would give her a place to crash and a box of wine to drown her sorrows in. She's prepping to slam someone with good intent as a nasty TERF and hurt their feelings with some shit about how they are not as nice a person as she thought.

It's so wrong but it's easy to see how you might convince yourself it's the right thing to do. Feels bad, man.
 
It's really, REALLY uncomfortable for nice, dumpy ladies to turn on the bitch. They spend their whole lives being seen as the kind, supportive, open minded lefty partner. Asserting themselves is agonizing.
I think if I had a daughter like this, I would recommend she work in collections and skip tracing for a few years before choosing a partner to learn about all the different lying and manipulation techniques some people use to get their way / out of trouble.

Everyone is scared of this work so it’s not too hard to get into.

Holy shit does that clear up a bunch of naïveté in a hurry.

It really was the job that turned me into a functional adult. I got to see the three main types of people who get into financial jams:

1. Good people who signed a contract in good faith who have bad things happen. Always bend over backwards to help these people. If you don’t know what you have, give these people a break the first time. By the second or third time you encounter them they might be one of the following categories:

2. People who were not parented correctly and need daddy bank to nag them to make their payments. Annoying but workable, can be babied through the contract term. Disorganized but well meaning.

3. Absolute sociopaths who are scamming and absolutely will lie, cheat and are trying to steal the collateral. You will spend 80% if your time on less than 1% of your files and it will take your breath away. They will set up credit in their parents’ or kids’ names, drive the car they financed on stolen ID from the dealer lot to a shipping container to Ukraine, literally glue branches to the truck and try to hide it from the bailiff in the woods. They are varying degrees of dangerous but this is a great job for learning to sniff out people that will destroy your life.

Women can be good at this work- it’s done remotely so no physical danger, and they can use social engineering to track people down. A lot of times, it’s mom’s Facebook that gives up the goods.

It also teaches passive people who are scared to call grandma how to get shit done creatively. I’ve seen major personality transformations for the better. Don’t do it for too long though, you might get too cynical.
 
On the intricacies of pooner voice training. 8)
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Does anyone else struggle with voice passing/dysphoria specifically when you're putting on a polite voice? When I'm at home or with friends I sound like myself, I definitely *can* talk in a deep voice, but when I'm at work or doing "official" stuff like making an appointment, my voice gets all sing-song and uptalky. It gets me misgendered sometimes and it makes me self-conscious.

I'm not sure if it's because the Work Phone Voice is always fake and I just haven't learned how to fake a male one, or because I worry on some level that people will be mad at me for being trans and sounding feminine will somehow "soften the blow."

Do other guys get this? Have you found ways of breaking the habit? I hate that my brain has internalized that being helpful and professional means doing this nervous little girl voice. 😕
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