Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

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And speak of the devil 👿
I'm not going to watch that. Because fuck these three people honestly. But all the guy said was gamergate should be more than "goon = good". He didn't even say there shouldn't be attractive women in games. Just that we should be pushing more than games = porn as the end all be all of quality. And he's not wrong. Some of these games they've shilled because GOON are exceedingly mediocre. Without the eye candy nobody would play those games.
 
I'm not going to watch that. Because fuck these three people honestly. But all the guy said was gamergate should be more than "goon = good". He didn't even say there shouldn't be attractive women in games. Just that we should be pushing more than games = porn as the end all be all of quality. And he's not wrong. Some of these games they've shilled because GOON are exceedingly mediocre. Without the eye candy nobody would play those games.
A game ultimately has to survive on gameplay. It can look good, but if it plays like shit, it's a bad game. Tiddies in games are nice, but if that's all you got, I'm not wasting my money or time on it. It's why I don't play gacha despite liking Fate: it's gambling but with JPEGS.
 
Sigh... These people make it so hard to support the anti-woke movement and not just check out completely. Here's Savvy casually defending depictions of child sexual exploitation in video games. It's literally the loli argument.

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I'll repeat: I will NEVER understand how did these "people" managed to ally themselves with counterculture (I wouldn't say right wingers, just people tired of others forcing things down their throats, most deconstructionists and cultural marxists are annoying hall monitors and these people are libertines who have the mantra of "LET ME ENJOY MY LIFE THE WAY I WANT, BITCH!!!").

Maybe I answered my own question, but if they remained their own faction, I would have appreciated more. Fucking cunts.
And of course the person defending Savvy has a TCOAAL pfp and uses the "I separate fiction from reality bro" defense. It's like picking words out of a hat
Yes, it's always the fucking T-COA(A)L. "Incest game le funny, don't say nigger tho. Or if you do, I don't care, be edgy XDDDD".
A game ultimately has to survive on gameplay. It can look good, but if it plays like shit, it's a bad game. Tiddies in games are nice, but if that's all you got, I'm not wasting my money or time on it. It's why I don't play gacha despite liking Fate: it's gambling but with JPEGS.
Korean Games BTFO'd. But honestly, I agree with you.
 
I'll repeat: I will NEVER understand how did these "people" managed to ally themselves with counterculture (I wouldn't say right wingers, just people tired of others forcing things down their throats, most deconstructionists and cultural marxists are annoying hall monitors and these people are libertines who have the mantra of "LET ME ENJOY MY LIFE THE WAY I WANT, BITCH!!!").
First, it's wild that's how you define "counterculture" as it stands these days when, 20 years ago, the deconstructionists and cultural Marxists were what was considered to be "counter culture" and a lot of them are still probably convinced that they're part of the "counter culture" to this day. I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, mind you. It's just an insane consideration in light of the last 20 years.

Second, you basically explained how these people allied themselves in "common cause" even while saying you don't understand it. Like it's been pointed out several times this whole thread and in the last few pages alone, these people also basically preach the mantra of "LET ME ENJOY WHAT I WANT, BITCH". It's just that, instead of enjoying a thing as they want, on their own, in a way that harms nobody but themselves, they ALSO want it not only to become publicly acceptable for them to enjoy what they want, but it should be celebrated, exalted, and, "better yet", EVERYONE should have to adapt to and embrace their obsession.

I wonder if that might sound familiar to anyone else, because we've seen this happen before from a societal standpoint with other matters.
 
First, it's wild that's how you define "counterculture" as it stands these days when, 20 years ago, the deconstructionists and cultural Marxists were what was considered to be "counter culture" and a lot of them are still probably convinced that they're part of the "counter culture" to this day. I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, mind you. It's just an insane consideration in light of the last 20 years.

Second, you basically explained how these people allied themselves in "common cause" even while saying you don't understand it. Like it's been pointed out several times this whole thread and in the last few pages alone, these people also basically preach the mantra of "LET ME ENJOY WHAT I WANT, BITCH". It's just that, instead of enjoying a thing as they want, on their own, in a way that harms nobody but themselves, they ALSO want it not only to become publicly acceptable for them to enjoy what they want, but it should be celebrated, exalted, and, "better yet", EVERYONE should have to adapt to and embrace their obsession.

I wonder if that might sound familiar to anyone else, because we've seen this happen before from a societal standpoint with other matters.
Right, I know what you mean, don't worry. The """punks""" of today stand for nothing of the original punk once stood, basically. As well as believing themselves to be the counter-culture, and so on.

It's more of a "uneasy alliance" that I don't quite understand how it happened, you see? Not so much of "how did dis happun?" Akin to "Hey guys, if we don't gatekeep, soon we'll have coomer lolicons joining our cause, and 'based trannies', while someone else says 'LET THEM IN!". Basically, that's what I'm trying to say - while there is no centralized "idea" behind all of this, it's... confusing how we got here, and lolicon coomers didn't become an """allied""" party, at the very best. But maybe I'm talking nonsense, I don't navigate social media too much. Definitely a lot of "let me enjoy my booba and hot women in vidya" that joined the counterculture, and there's a hot discussion going on at the Sweet Baby thread about it.
 
It's more of a "uneasy alliance" that I don't quite understand how it happened, you see? Not so much of "how did dis happun?" Akin to "Hey guys, if we don't gatekeep, soon we'll have coomer lolicons joining our cause, and 'based trannies', while someone else says 'LET THEM IN!". Basically, that's what I'm trying to say - while there is no centralized "idea" behind all of this, it's... confusing how we got here, and lolicon coomers didn't become an """allied""" party, at the very best. But maybe I'm talking nonsense, I don't navigate social media too much. Definitely a lot of "let me enjoy my booba and hot women in vidya" that joined the counterculture, and there's a hot discussion going on at the Sweet Baby thread about it.
It's not so confusing when you consider that a lot of people hide their intent until something makes them sperg out, and because they tend to attract a following that refuses to think for themselves, sometimes when they go "mask off", they spin it in such a way that it becomes nebulously palatable to the unassuming and encourage ostracization of the people who express doubt or disagreement. Of course, they also attract a lot of people who do get the underlying message (i.e., pedophilia) and either agree with it openly or tacitly.

It's basic authoritarian control/cult shit.

And no, for the lurkers, I'm not conflating "Let me enjoy my hot women" with "I want to fuck kids". Those are two entirely different things and more power to you if the former's what you want. Although if you make a bunch of mental leaps to try and conflate the two matters regardless, I have to wonder if you're either playing at being hyper-puritan as a lark (or, God forbid, you're serious), or if you're exactly the kind of person I just described who's trying to confuse the issue in order to undermine any argument against what basically amounts to trying to legitimize pedophilia.
 
It's not so confusing when you consider that a lot of people hide their intent until something makes them sperg out, and because they tend to attract a following that refuses to think for themselves, sometimes when they go "mask off", they spin it in such a way that it becomes nebulously palatable to the unassuming and encourage ostracization of the people who express doubt or disagreement. Of course, they also attract a lot of people who do get the underlying message (i.e., pedophilia) and either agree with it openly or tacitly.

It's basic authoritarian control/cult shit.
Its sinister in that way honestly. They bait people in with one thing, then start forcing them to defend other shit. In this case, pedophilia. Because you are ANTI CENSORSHIP, right buddy? And a mix of peer pressure and sunk cost fallacy makes them inevitably defend it even if they don't want to; they don't want to be a WOKE CENSORSHIP HYPER FEMANAZI.
And no, for the lurkers, I'm not conflating "Let me enjoy my hot women" with "I want to fuck kids". Those are two entirely different things and more power to you if the former's what you want. Although if you make a bunch of mental leaps to try and conflate the two matters regardless, I have to wonder if you're either playing at being hyper-puritan as a lark (or, God forbid, you're serious), or if you're exactly the kind of person I just described who's trying to confuse the issue in order to undermine any argument against what basically amounts to trying to legitimize pedophilia.
If someone gets enjoying video games with hot women in it and fucking kids mixed up, there was no hope for them from the start.
 
And a mix of peer pressure and sunk cost fallacy makes them inevitably defend it even if they don't want to; they don't want to be a WOKE CENSORSHIP HYPER FEMANAZI.
Just based on observation of behaviors alone, I have some reason to believe that anybody who doesn't have any intention of defending something isn't going to defend it, even when their cause is used as a vessel to try and legitimize the thing by going wildly off-base with the original cause.

Those who defend it on a "sunk-cost fallacy" are either woefully immature, and hopefully this starts serving as their wake-up call to think for themselves (some folks are horribly slow on the uptake in this regard), or they fall into that camp of being a tacit supporter of the extreme.

Mind you, I'm speaking in general here, but it's equally applicable to actual pedophiles.
 
Just based on observation of behaviors alone, I have some reason to believe that anybody who doesn't have any intention of defending something isn't going to defend it, even when their cause is used as a vessel to try and legitimize the thing by going wildly off-base with the original cause.

Those who defend it on a "sunk-cost fallacy" are either woefully immature, and hopefully this starts serving as their wake-up call to think for themselves (some folks are horribly slow on the uptake in this regard), or they fall into that camp of being a tacit supporter of the extreme.

Mind you, I'm speaking in general here, but it's equally applicable to actual pedophiles.
I think its fair. Rally the people that fall for the sunk cost fallacy are either going to be young, stupid, or just care about winning- so extremists. Unfortunately there are a lot of those online. IRL not so much. IRL you actually have to talk to people that aren't behind a screen.

I think though that most people are your first point. Most people do have a strong enough will not to get strung along into bullshit. That is usually how movements get split up tbh.
 
Just based on observation of behaviors alone, I have some reason to believe that anybody who doesn't have any intention of defending something isn't going to defend it, even when their cause is used as a vessel to try and legitimize the thing by going wildly off-base with the original cause.

Those who defend it on a "sunk-cost fallacy" are either woefully immature, and hopefully this starts serving as their wake-up call to think for themselves (some folks are horribly slow on the uptake in this regard), or they fall into that camp of being a tacit supporter of the extreme.

Mind you, I'm speaking in general here, but it's equally applicable to actual pedophiles.
Basically me. Look, I just don't want "progressive" propaganda in my games. I want my government to stop replacing me. I didn't ask to defend pedo shit. Nor will I.
 
Honestly why do Loli/Pedos find children attractive. They are extremely annoying and time consuming to the point you consider being Child Free. I'm never having children because they're annoying but oftentimes I think of these weirdos and wonder how they can see them in that way.

And beyond the "It's just Cartoons" excuse.
 
Honestly why do Loli/Pedos find children attractive. They are extremely annoying and time consuming to the point you consider being Child Free. I'm never having children because they're annoying but oftentimes I think of these weirdos and wonder how they can see them in that way.

And beyond the "It's just Cartoons" excuse.
Because of two (well, three) reasons
1. They are pedophiles who think with their genitals
2. They gooned so hard that new and more degenerate pornography is the only thing they are capable to of getting off to
3. They were groomed/exposed to pornography at an early age and thus have become hypersexual, believing that sexual attraction to kids is normal
 
Because of two (well, three) reasons
1. They are pedophiles who think with their genitals
2. They gooned so hard that new and more degenerate pornography is the only thing they are capable to of getting off to
3. They were groomed/exposed to pornography at an early age and thus have become hypersexual, believing that sexual attraction to kids is normal
They use number 3 alot to get idiots to sympathize but since the Internet is starting to finally catch up they don't buy that shit. Although it's beginning again with people forgiving Kelogish as Koofy.
 
Because of two (well, three) reasons
1. They are pedophiles who think with their genitals
2. They gooned so hard that new and more degenerate pornography is the only thing they are capable to of getting off to
3. They were groomed/exposed to pornography at an early age and thus have become hypersexual, believing that sexual attraction to kids is normal
I'll add #4: children are weak prey. A grown woman can fight back. A five year old can't.
 
It's all about having power and control over someone or something weaker than you, and they get off to corrupting innocence. Something deep in their brains is broken beyond repair for them to look at a child playing and want to sodomize them. @Secret Asshole did research on pedos and while he couldn't (wouldn't?) go into great detail at the time (and I never DM'd for further information on the categories types of pedos get lumped into), he makes it very clear that all predators just want to have control over someone weaker.

Lolicons say they're in it for the "aesthetics" and look of child characters, and if it had just remained that way, it'd still be considered creepy, but at least you could go "Well, it's just a drawing, it's not a real child" and avoided them. However, that was in the past, and in [current year] it's just as real as it could be in their minds. You can pray to whatever deity you believe in that they don't have actual CP on their hard drives, and even if they don't, they're 100% butt-buddies with real sickoes because of tribal mentality and are enablers. They can scream and flail about how they're not hurting real children, but that will not matter to the LEOs when they're caught in the crossfire that inevitably occurs when time is up.
 
Lolicons say they're in it for the "aesthetics" and look of child characters, and if it had just remained that way, it'd still be considered creepy, but at least you could go "Well, it's just a drawing, it's not a real child" and avoided them. However, that was in the past, and in [current year] it's just as real as it could be in their minds. You can pray to whatever deity you believe in that they don't have actual CP on their hard drives, and even if they don't, they're 100% butt-buddies with real sickoes because of tribal mentality and are enablers. They can scream and flail about how they're not hurting real children, but that will not matter to the LEOs when they're caught in the crossfire that inevitably occurs when time is up.

It's the same with Zoophiles initally, they claim they don't like anyone but dogs but then they end up grooming minors (Conner/Sappho) Zoophilla is a gateway to pedophilla.
 
They use number 3 alot to get idiots to sympathize but since the Internet is starting to finally catch up they don't buy that shit.
Eh, I don't know. I believe the statistics. It's actually a documented thing that most children who sexually abuse other children learned it from somewhere, and it's not surprising that this would carry into adulthood.

I think the real problem is the idea that victims deserve sympathy no matter what. I actually think being a victim yourself shows you are truly evil, because you know exactly how it feels to experience it and how life-ruining it is and you did it anyway.
 
Eh, I don't know. I believe the statistics. It's actually a documented thing that most children who sexually abuse other children learned it from somewhere, and it's not surprising that this would carry into adulthood.

I think the real problem is the idea that victims deserve sympathy no matter what. I actually think being a victim yourself shows you are truly evil, because you know exactly how it feels to experience it and how life-ruining it is and you did it anyway.
They do deserve sympathy, to a point, when talking about that specific third option. That sympathy is gone when they harm another. That is when they go from victim to villain. I think that's a important distinction to make. And yes, looking at lolicon and CSAM counts as harm.
 
I think the real problem is the idea that victims deserve sympathy no matter what. I actually think being a victim yourself shows you are truly evil, because you know exactly how it feels to experience it and how life-ruining it is and you did it anyway.

They do deserve sympathy, to a point, when talking about that specific third option. That sympathy is gone when they harm another. That is when they go from victim to villain. I think that's a important distinction to make. And yes, looking at lolicon and CSAM counts as harm.

This is something I see quite frequently from degenerates, LGBTQ activists and lolicons both:

When they're accused of either grooming kids or of being a bad person for looking at simulated CSAM respectively, they'll pull the "I'm a CSA survivor myself!" as if it clears them of wrongdoing.
 
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