Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Paper Machete]

But 50 years ago the trannies mostly just wanted to blend in and live their lives and not whip their dicks out in the women's locker rooms

The reason they did not do this was because it wasn't allowed. The most out trannies of the time were the most desperate of HSTS homos who were likely some flavor of prostitute (they really didn't have anything to lose, in other words). The AGPs were not so open because the blacklash wouldn't have made it worth it. The backlash is no longer there. There were far less of them as with anything like this the number that are "naturally" (whatever that means in this context) occurring are lower. But there are a lot of variables that push some people in this direction these days and make the behaviors associated worse.

Saying trannies back then were more reasonable and polite than today because they were the actual true and honest trannies is like thinking there is something magical happening when a robber acts more polite because you have them at gunpoint.

(Dysphoria isn't a diagnosis in and of itself. That much is clear if you even listen to trannies themselves. It's a symptom that comes from somewhere else: deviants with pornsickness, gay men with lots of hangups, etc. Thinking you're not supposed to be who you are absent some sort of trauma or other problems is impossible.)

 

[TaimuRadiu]

The reason they did not do this was because it wasn't allowed. The most out trannies of the time were the most desperate of HSTS homos who were likely some flavor of prostitute (they really didn't have anything to lose, in other words). The AGPs were not so open because the blacklash wouldn't have made it worth it. The backlash is no longer there. There were far less of them as with anything like this the number that are "naturally" (whatever that means in this context) occurring are lower. But there are a lot of variables that push some people in this direction these days and make the behaviors associated worse.

Saying trannies back then were more reasonable and polite than today because they were the actual true and honest trannies is like thinking there is something magical happening when a robber acts more polite because you have them at gunpoint.

(Dysphoria isn't a diagnosis in and of itself. That much is clear if you even listen to trannies themselves. It's a symptom that comes from somewhere else: deviants with pornsickness, gay men with lots of hangups, etc. Thinking you're not supposed to be who you are absent some sort of trauma or other problems is impossible.)

The only medically recognized treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning, and I'm fine with that.

 

[Paper Machete]

The only medically recognized treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning, and I'm fine with that.

Then people like you are part of the reason why this is all so bad right now. You have no right to complain about them being the shit stirrers they are. I genuinely do not understand how people like you can read through threads on trans widows being abused, on the mutilations the surgeries are, on how cross sex hormones poison people, on the women and girls that have been harassed (and worse) in what used to be sex exclusive intimate spaces, the dementia riddled trannies that revert back to knowing they're men and freaking out about being dickless, etc. and come to the conclusion that the "treatments" that we all know the trannies and their tranny organizations are the ones that came up for their own ends is still totally legit and fine. I'm not even angry or seething I'm just genuinely flabbergasted you can have a "sure, this is fine" response to all of this. If nothing else medical treatments are supposed to make people better and trannies do not have better outcomes in terms of physical health, their suicide rates or dependency on medication for mental issues, etc. Very clearly it doesn't work unless you count making people who get boners from crossdressing happy as working.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Then people like you are part of the reason why this is all so bad right now. You have no right to complain about them being the shit stirrers they are. I genuinely do not understand how people like you can read through threads on trans widows being abused, on the mutilations the surgeries are, on how cross sex hormones poison people, on the women and girls that have been harassed (and worse) in what used to be sex exclusive intimate spaces, the dementia riddled trannies that revert back to knowing they're men and freaking out about being dickless, etc. and come to the conclusion that the "treatments" that we all know the trannies and their tranny organizations are the ones that came up for their own ends is still totally legit and fine. I'm not even angry or seething I'm just genuinely flabbergasted you can have a "sure, this is fine" response to all of this. If nothing else medical treatments are supposed to make people better and trannies do not have better outcomes in terms of physical health, their suicide rates or dependency on medication for mental issues, etc. Very clearly it doesn't work unless you count making people who get boners from crossdressing happy as working.

you seem pretty angry and seething hon

they're adults, they can do it, gender dysphoria is medically recognized and the only effective treatment is transitioning, my entire point is that it's become a fashion statement and it wasn't 50 years ago when there were set strictures in place to actually help trannies transition and not have what we have now

I don't give a fuck about "trans widows" anyway

Also, do you think regular homos should go thru conversion therapy to become heteros? A lot of what you say can be applied to the regular gays as well.

 

[Paper Machete]

Also, do you think regular homos should go thru conversion therapy to become heteros? A lot of what you say can be applied to the regular gays as well.

A have a lot of criticisms of the Homosexuals:tm: but one thing they can't be accused of is wanting to rape women while being called Sally.

We'll have to agree to disagree. If trannies own unearthed thoughts and behaviors doesn't make you give up the naivety, nothing will.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

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The only medically recognized treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning, and I'm fine with that.

So some men really can be women? But not others? How does that work?

I mean, I get it. I used to sympathize with meek little hsts. But it doesn’t really make sense.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

The only medically recognized treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning, and I'm fine with that.

There is always another treatment, which is to do nothing. And there is zero evidence that transition works better than to do nothing. And transition comes at a massive cost in health and often permanent debilitating changes.

Transition is rank quackery. Snake oil butchery sold under the false pretense of health care.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

There is always another treatment, which is to do nothing. And there is zero evidence that transition works better than to do nothing. And transition comes at a massive cost in health and often permanent debilitating changes.

Transition is rank quackery. Snake oil butchery sold under the false pretense of health care.

Works better than nothing, apparently. I don't really care. It's like saying "you can just not be gay!"

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So some men really can be women? But not others? How does that work?

I mean, I get it. I used to sympathize with meek little hsts. But it doesn’t really make sense.

I mean I still sympathize with them, and I'm pretty sure gatekeeping would keep out most of the AGPs.

But we had to stop gatekeeping because muh supposed 42% (which turned out to be lies but whatever)

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

Works better than nothing, apparently. I don't really care. It's like saying "you can just not be gay!"

I being gay required medical intervention we would need objective diagnostic criteria and evidence of efficacy.

The day when transitioning requires no hormones, no puberty blockers and no surgery, then the comparison would have some validity.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

I being gay required medical intervention we would need objective diagnostic criteria and evidence of efficacy.

The day when transitioning requires no hormones, no puberty blockers and no surgery, then the comparison would have some validity.

what you're saying comes across like "don't have gay sex"

and with a side of bullshit moralizing

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

what you're saying comes across like "don't have gay sex"

and with a side of bullshit moralizing

No. What I am saying is: Dont treat a psychiatric ailment such as gender dysphoria with quack medicine such as gender affirming so-called healthcare.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

No. What I am saying is: Dont treat a psychiatric ailment such as gender dysphoria with quack medicine such as gender affirming so-called healthcare.

it's not "quack medicine"

what's your treatment, conversion therapy? make them into nice heterosexuals?

 

[Susanna]

it's not "quack medicine"

what's your treatment, conversion therapy? make them into nice heterosexuals?

CBT or ACT seem like reasonable options.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

it's not "quack medicine"

what's your treatment, conversion therapy? make them into nice heterosexuals?

Transition IS conversion therapy. It attempts to make homosexual men in to straight women, and vice versa. And it attempts to make lesbian women into straight men, and vice versa.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Transition IS conversion therapy. It attempts to make homosexual men in to straight women, and vice versa. And it attempts to make lesbian women into straight men, and vice versa.

it's not conversion therapy

what is your treatment for gender dysphoria, everything else doesn't seem to actually work

also the traditional "butch" lesbian who wears a suit and presents as masculine as possible already comes across like a tranny soooooo

CBT or ACT seem like reasonable options.

apparently in the 1970s stuff like this was the default and after that the premarin and SRS

you know, like how actual psychiatry works

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

it's not conversion therapy

Transition is conversion therapy. It's medical intervention with the aim of making homosexuals straight and vice versa.

Ellen Page is a good example. Lesbian woman was transitioned into a straight man simulacrum. It's conversion therapy.

what is your treatment for gender dysphoria, everything else doesn't seem to actually work

My treatment is to do nothing. It's at least as effective as transition, and it comes with no side effects.

 

[Susanna]

apparently in the 1970s stuff like this was the default and after that the premarin and SRS

you know, like how actual psychiatry works

In the 1970s trannies were quite rare, you need to look at what's changed. I have a theory:
In the 1970s you hаd to go the store to buy your porn, and the photos largely consisted of women nude or in bikinis. It was embarassing to go buy and more embarassing when your wife or children found it, so you had incentive to not let yourself get too porn damaged. Today men have access to more porn than they could consume in a lifetime, in their phone, anytime, anywhere, for free. And social media tells them they should be proud of their gooning, that it's normal and healthy and all guys do it all the time.

I hold that porn damage is the actual cause for 99% of modern trannies. Call it Pornography Overconsumption Disorder. I'd treat POD by educating people about the damage pornography does to both men and women, lowering overall pornography consumption by making it difficult to access, criminalising the production and spreading of pornographic materials, and giving porn-damaged men access to therapy to treat their disorder.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

what is your treatment for gender dysphoria, everything else doesn't seem to actually work

Given that there’s no evidence that transition works either, I suggest therapy. From a therapist who isn’t just going to pat ass.

 

[grenouille crétine]

it's not conversion therapy

what is your treatment for gender dysphoria, everything else doesn't seem to actually work

also the traditional "butch" lesbian who wears a suit and presents as masculine as possible already comes across like a tranny soooooo

Gynecomastia and wearing striped thigh-highs may help you feel like a nubile anime waif instead of the moronic homosexual you clearly are, but neither hormones nor a surgeon’s knife can change basic biology. Seems maybe you’re a little jealous of those butches for still being more feminine than you, even with their short hair and suits? Hmmm.

I hope you are pleased with the attention for posting such a dogshit take in a thread you clearly don’t belong in, except for as a sideshow. Which tranny talking point from Reddit would you like to try next?

 

[sheepworldvizor]

The fix for brainworms is not changing the body, it’s killing the worms.