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Censoring everything about ww2 is why stalker children are enjoying hitler speeches now.
Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread
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I never liked Crimson, easily the character I find the most annoying with his son a close second.Leeeeet's count!
1. Striker, as mentioned
2. Satan – oh, what's that? You're saying this guy used to rule Hell before Lucifer? Ohhhh wait, here comes Viv to ruin it with her "umm akshyually, he was lying, sorry you couldn't understand my subtle writing"
3. Pilot Stolas – we could've had a menacing, yet hilariously depraved antagonist, but noooooooooo....
4. Crimson (and Moxxie by extension) – I dunno if he could be good, but he could at least be better... You'd think this guy would be a personal antagonist to Moxxie, but instead he's getting up to retarded "saturday morning cartoon villain" antics – like, what the fuck was he trying to accomplish by kidnapping Fizz?
5. Alastor - just look at the leaks. Enough said.
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Don't forget the worst part of Striker, that he was turned an irredemable hypocrite and worst character in the show.
Striker was preaching to blitzo about how imps should do better than sucking royal dick and they should work together to assassinate royals. This is the first time we see someone in-universe actually give a fuck about the supposed imp opression. He was working for Stella sure but this also ironically set up an accidentally genius parallel between him and Blitzo.
Both Blitzo and Striker had to work for a royal they hate cause they need to make a living and had to find a way to cope. Blitzo kept telling himself he enjoys the sex and Striker had the opportunity to kill to a goetia.
In Western energy he vents at stolas how royals took everything from him and I GUESS WE'RE TELLING NOT SHOWING all this supposed imp opression. He's still kinda hypocrite for obeying Stella but you could argue he was still conflicted.
He becomes a jobber in Oops but at least he still called blitzo and fizz for being embarassments for fucking with bluebloods so you could still argue he kept his ideals.
But then last episode he's just a fucking sellout to spite blitzo. Literally defending a royal to help an unfair system punish an innocent imp. This man is a fucking fraud. No character in this show was downgraded this bad
And i don't care if vivzie or fanboys tell me it's intentional because if Striker IS A HYPOCRITE, then everything he preached wasn't even true anyway. I guess he was lying about royals taking everything from him. What if the royals aren't that bad. Maybe imps aren't that opressed anyway.
This is like when RWBY turned Adam, a minority freedom fighter, into a yandere sociopath who loves killing for the sake of a bumblebee, fumbling it's anti-racism message.
Literally just throw away all your character potential and world building for a popular ship like rwby.
Curiously, he even got a face scar like adam that i think 99% people missed. After getting hit with fire in his face, Striker got a white burn scar around his left eye, which i assume is vivzie attempt to draw even more parallels to blitzo.
But now it just looks like Striker has clown make up!
good job vivzie 
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>character named Adam
>has his potential thrown away
History has a funny way of rhyming...
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It's funny because the burn scar is on the wrong side of the face.After getting hit with fire in his face, Striker got a white burn scar around his left eye, which i assume is vivzie attempt to draw even more parallels to blitzo.
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I won't be surprised if Striker gets into a relationship with Stella just to make them both evil hypocrites
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Someone repeatedly forgot to hit the “flip horizontal” button.
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Please forgive my ignorance on this topic (I haven't read much of the Bible because it's a bit light on illustrations for my tastes), but I thought that "Satan" was just Lucifer's new name after he got the banhammer from heaven?2. Satan – oh, what's that? You're saying this guy used to rule Hell before Lucifer? Ohhhh wait, here comes Viv to ruin it with her "umm akshyually, he was lying, sorry you couldn't understand my subtle writing
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I think it changed later on. Also what about Samael? Does his old name not exist?
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We really need a "What did Vivzie mean by this?" counter cause I love the amount of things she ends up sounding like she supports more than she's against, lol.
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It's very complicated that it can be tricky depending on who you ask, but most of the time they aren't the same but have been changed to be the same entity over time.
Though even if it was definitive that they're the same, Hazbin makes no promise on being biblically accurate since it's very loosely based on Christianity. Really the biblical references come to loose adaptations of Biblical characters, and references to concepts or events (like how Adam really likes to eat ribs).
On a fun trivia note, looking at the voice actors for Lucifer and Satan's musical theatre roles, it's funny that Lucifer is Light Yagami while Satan is Frollo
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youtube randomly recommended me this video and while it's a bit a long vent, it hit me how vivzie infantilized Fizz and Ozzy relationship so hard, it circled back into offensive wattpad yaoi writing.
>what a funny funny energetic boy uwu (fizz is at least in his mid 30s)
>haha the crippled twink cant even feed himself without his daddy
>this man is in his mid thirties begging his dom to go to mc donalds
>daddy pwease
Why does fizz gets treated like a literal child? If Fizz was a girl this whole thing would called creepy and borderline pedophiliac.
The fact that fizz is also technically a cripple with obvious abandonment and emotional dependency issues feels like part of the fetish. Which is 100% a subtype of yaoi fetish btw.
This also reminds me of Stolas treating blitzo like a pet/child and Vivzie wants us to believe this was "true love" despite the obvious power inbalance.
somethingsomethign what did vivzie mean by this...
>what a funny funny energetic boy uwu (fizz is at least in his mid 30s)
>haha the crippled twink cant even feed himself without his daddy
>this man is in his mid thirties begging his dom to go to mc donalds
>daddy pwease
Why does fizz gets treated like a literal child? If Fizz was a girl this whole thing would called creepy and borderline pedophiliac.
The fact that fizz is also technically a cripple with obvious abandonment and emotional dependency issues feels like part of the fetish. Which is 100% a subtype of yaoi fetish btw.
This also reminds me of Stolas treating blitzo like a pet/child and Vivzie wants us to believe this was "true love" despite the obvious power inbalance.
somethingsomethign what did vivzie mean by this...
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Considering her fanbase used Eugenics to describe us critics. She thinks they are "babies and subhumans" so therefore. Fizz is also a retard and can't take care of himself. IIRC he lost ONE arm and has a prosthetic, He can feed his ass himself. Babying mentally ill people is retarded because we drag tf out of retards on this forum. Retards can take care of themselves. Unless they can't and need assistance. But Fizz isn't mentally impaired he's a grown man.
You know, I really don’t mind that Asmodeus’s relationship is depicted as something out of a yaoi wattpad thing, because that’s Lust. Homosexual relationship that doesn’t follow biblical teaching or how St Thomas Aquinas describes natural law? That’s Lust. Infantilizing your partner to be completely dependent on you and using pleasure to basically fasten a metaphorical chain around their neck? Lust. In trying to make a ‘Good’ Sin, she actually made someone that is disturbing in his own right. The only difference between this and something we would consider to be the traditional portrayal of the sin of lust is that, in a religious sense, what we get here is a very sweet and subtle poison that gradually kills your soul, while people look on and clap. If I didn’t know better, I’d call Viv based for such an accurate portrayal of the type of relationships passion and lust lead to.
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But it's not intended as a yaoi wattpad thing, that's the issue. It's depicted as hecking wholesome and the only true healthy relationship in the show. Vivzie is such a coward that Asmodeus, the lust incarnate, preaches consent and loyal monogamy. The fandom will clap and call it positive gay represation.
If vivzie created a well written toxic toxic relationship, it was by accident while trying to fulfill her fujo needs.
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Ironically she tried to paint Stolas good, but accidentally painted him as bad.
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Ironically it felt like Season 1 of Helluva Boss was going for that as even while there was moments where Stolas was treated with Sympathy, he still was presented as a jerk and Blitzo's feelings were portrayed sympathetically.
Season 2 jumped the ball hard whether it was Brandon or Viv, I have no idea
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Viv did, people notice Brandon's writing is different compared to Viv's Twilight/Fanfiction Wattpad storylines. Brandon has good writing skills (I.E. BRYCE) but besides that's it's basically Lily Orchard's accusation of Rebecca Sugar fighting the storyboard artists over how the Diamonds should act. Replace Becca with Viv fighting over her manchildren OCs charactrization.
In fact all of the retarded fans got mad at the fictional abuse victim who was the abuse victim of the character being shown as a fucking victim that anytime Brandon is at a con retards will ask him to apologize as Blitz in his voice as the character. Which one day he made a fake apology. What's worse is, iirc Brandon himself is an abuse victim/survivor and it must hurt having a bunch of Fujoshits do this.
People have expressingly stated that Blitz isn't a rape victim because he flirted back! He loves him!
I mean, I flirt with my fucking homies all the time, and I don't love them. Also, since Blitz isn't a rape victim by their logic, then we should say he's been groomed. It's a HUGE abuse of power. too. Surprised no one pointed out the grooming between the two.