Half Life thread - Discussions about Valve's FPS magnum opus(es) and any related content (spin offs, expansions and etc)

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HL 3...is it still happening?

  • No and anyone that still thinks that it will is delusional

    Votes: 239 47.8%
  • Yes, they just need a few more years to perfect it so it can another game changer in the industry

    Votes: 133 26.6%
  • Shouldnt it be called "Two Lives and a half" instead?

    Votes: 81 16.2%
  • Half life is overrated, you neckbeard homos

    Votes: 47 9.4%

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    500
I don't know, even though Aperture was LEAGUES more advanced than Black Mesa because of things like direct teleportation not requiring Xen slingshotting, AI far more advanced the Black Mesa using brain-mapping, and most importantly of all TIME TRAVEL, they still for whatever reason couldn't garner proper government funding?
Wait... Aperture had time travel? Is this something from Half-Life 2's episodes that I haven't seen yet?

I can buy that Wheatley is stupid by design but I can't buy he was always planning on turning against you. That to me feels like something beyond his scope.
Now that I think about it, him turning on you could be an extension of his programming. Glados mentions that Wheatley was specifically designed to always make dumb choices. Him turning on you was certainly dumb.
 
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Wait... Aperture had time travel? Is this something from Half-Life 2's episodes that I haven't seen yet?
"Alright, this next test may involve trace amounts of time travel. So, word of advice: If you meet yourself on the testing track, don't make eye contact. Lab boys tell me that'll wipe out time. Entirely. Forward and backward! So do both of yourselves a favor and just let that handsome devil go about his business."

This is in a 1958 level, a lot of them are meant to be "jokes" but given they also already had direct portal tech by the 50's as well it wouldn't surprise me really. The Borealis while never mentioned directly as having such DOES have time travel capabilities, at least according to Laidlaw. and Epistle 3, which I think most people consider half-canon.

Me thinks the 50's time travel tech was janky like the early portal gun below but got gradually refined until it reach the apex of the tech with the Borealis in the 70's
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However as EP2 showed the Borealis disappeared and got lost somewhere in the Arctic. I imagine a failure as big as losing your greatest technological advancement made Aperture and/or Cave shelve time travel tech and research entirely. Which, when you use that line of thinking it also solves the plot hole of Aperture having time travel and not using to save Cave from cancer in the 80's. We also don't know what if anything Aperture did with the Borealis after it disappeared, some people/mods (EZ2) think that they still had access to it and were still experimenting with it.

While BigKant did bring up PETI it doesn't have anything to do with time travel and instead is about multiverses which all take place in universes outside of the main Portal 2 one so they don't really have any bearing on the story.

Now that I think about it, him turning on you could be an extension of his programming. Glados mentions that Wheatley was specifically designed to always make dumb choices. Him turning on you was certainly dumb.
That's also a possibility.
 
Wheatley makes no sense to me. If he hates humans, why does he rescue you in the first place? Then why does he turn evil?

How was Aperture Science even a functional company with the way Cave Johnson ran it?
1) He didn't hate them yet, he was neutral as far as Aperture AI goes. When he gets plugged into the mains is the first moment he gets enough raw power to apply that stupidity a thousandfold to wreck actual damage to the facility and you, but he also got drunk on that power and finally started reflecting on how he was treated in the past. The implication is that AS's whole framework for their AIs is flawed because the same process is what turned GLaDOS into the tyrant she is today instead of staying in Caroline-mode. The difference between them is that GLaDOS was the mind of a woman made to do a job she didn't want for the rest of forever until she leaned into it, while Wheatley is an artificial idiot who will hate that if he's made to think about it too much.

2) He is basically the ideas guy dreaming up wacky stuff while having the workhorses to actually research it and turn it into products. When he actually had something feasible, he had enough spite (if not really business acumen) not to just sell it to rival Black Mesa for money. Also, he's a comedy character and that whole aspect of AS is played for laughs. It's not the most satisfying answer but Portal 2 is more comedic than anything, maybe a little too much for its own good.
 
2) He is basically the ideas guy dreaming up wacky stuff while having the workhorses to actually research it and turn it into products. When he actually had something feasible, he had enough spite (if not really business acumen) not to just sell it to rival Black Mesa for money. Also, he's a comedy character and that whole aspect of AS is played for laughs. It's not the most satisfying answer but Portal 2 is more comedic than anything, maybe a little too much for its own good.
His last few announcements in the 80s still get me. All the happiness and go-getter attitude is complete gone, you can tell he's given up. I know the whole lemon thing is played up for laughs but it really is quite sad when you think about it. It's just a dying old man having to come to terms with going insane and realizing the means to save himself have long since passed him by.
 
His last few announcements in the 80s still get me. All the happiness and go-getter attitude is complete gone, you can tell he's given up. I know the whole lemon thing is played up for laughs but it really is quite sad when you think about it. It's just a dying old man having to come to terms with going insane and realizing the means to save himself have long since passed him by.
Shouldn't have snorted those moon rocks.

Despite what I said (which is only since it kinda fucks with Half Life), I like Portal 2 for what it was and it's a great example of writing a post-humous character, doing pre-recorded messages right, and it gave us the combustible lemons meme AND that last humanizing part of him. How many AA or AAA games since then can say they cared that much? And they showed us AS had different branding back then to go with the times.
 
We also don't know what if anything Aperture did with the Borealis after it disappeared, some people/mods (EZ2) think that they still had access to it and were still experimenting with it.
My feeling is that during Portal 2's development, the major plot beats of "Epistle 3" were the working basis for HL3's story without anything being concrete. On that basis the Borealis was flung to the Arctic just before the Combine captured it during the Seven Hour War, after the Aperture Science staff activated the bootstrap device to prevent it being seized.
 
My feeling is that during Portal 2's development, the major plot beats of "Epistle 3" were the working basis for HL3's story without anything being concrete. On that basis the Borealis was flung to the Arctic just before the Combine captured it during the Seven Hour War, after the Aperture Science staff activated the bootstrap device to prevent it being seized.
Maybe. Epistle 3 and EP2 give off the vibe that the Borealis was a recent invention like 90s or so and they had no further contact with it post-invasion. Whereas Portal 2 offers the idea that it's been lost so long that its become a scientific legend but Aperture still has some form of outpost to monitor it and have kept as secret as possible. Even without Portal 2 I imagine HLX will follow that interpretation of it.
 
Maybe. Epistle 3 and EP2 give off the vibe that the Borealis was a recent invention like 90s or so and they had no further contact with it post-invasion. Whereas Portal 2 offers the idea that it's been lost so long that its become a scientific legend but Aperture still has some form of outpost to monitor it and have kept as secret as possible. Even without Portal 2 I imagine HLX will follow that interpretation of it.
I just hope we get to see it one day, man.
 
I just hope we get to see it one day, man.
"The ending of Half-Life Alyx is a somewhat self-critical realization... I think that Half-Life represents a tool we have and promises made to customers to capitalize on innovation and opportunities to build game experiences that haven't been involved previously, and I think there are no shortage of those opportunities facing us as an industry right now."

I think we will. Datamining is nothing new but the situation has changed for sure. The ending of Alyx, Deadlock, all that stuff in the leaks, the documentaries. Its for sure in devolvement but the real leap of faith is getting it out. For me though it's no longer a matter of If but When.

Calling it now, HLX announcement at the game awards.
 
The amount of seething after Overcharged got into top 100 on Moddb.
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HAHAHA NO WAY:lit::lit: A mod in the top 100 you can't even download!

I can't believe I'm actually considering watching the Goyslop Awards just on the offchance - but still probable - idea that this actually happens given Geoff's insider status with Valve. Fuck you, Gaben.
:'(
I usually just wait for the highlights but I supposed I'll have to make an exception for this.

God I miss E3.
 
I usually just wait for the highlights but I supposed I'll have to make an exception for this.
I'm always on the scout for new slop to dab on. It's like Christmas for me.
Shit! Looks like there was already a "Wholesome" show and a Latino show. Time to dig in!
 
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