UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

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Norvic 2 The Ressurection said:
Imagine being a boomer, still working at McDonalds despite being well past retirement age and still having respect enough for the authorities to snitch on the Robin Hood of our age.
Shameful man, absolutely shameful.
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All my insults toward Pennsylvania during the election remain completely accurate. The people there are a unique kind of unpleasant and stupid.
 
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JoeBidenSniffMe said:
Someone set up a GiveSendGo for Luigi. If you are interested in helping support his legal case and giving him a fair legal trial.
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With the caveat that the lawyer for Luigi said he probably wouldn’t take donations and the group funding this said if Luigi refuses the money goes to support unnamed ’political prisoners’ For all anyone knows it can go to troons

Edit: That face dox of Nancy Parker is weird because there is also a comedienne named Nancy Parker that is scheduled to do a Ladies of Laughter show in May but this Nancy would seem to have had a career in showbiz which would be incredibly odd for an old lady working at McDonald’s.
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So maybe boomer tv minor character lady ends up in her old age working a min wage job while also having previously headlined with Billy Crystal? I dunno they look similar but that might just mean the face dox is wrong.
NANCY PARKER started out as one of the first female stand up comedians in the early seventies in New York City, and she helped pave the way for other female comedians to follow. She managed to succeed while attending the all boy’s club and has appeared on major talk shows such as Arsenio Hall, Merv Griffin, and Don Kirschner’s Rock Concert, as well as a recurring role on ABC’s show, SLEDGEHAMMER. She toured with Peter Allen, and has performed her comedy at Carnegie Hall. In the early nineties, her well known impressions of celebrities made the circuit of Morning Zoos on the radio. For over five years, she was one of the main writers and performers at the American Comedy Network, which provided comedy routines for hundreds of radio stations around the country. She has also written for both Jay Leno and Rosie O’Donnell. Nancy was the first comedian ever to play Caroline’s Comedy Club in New York City, and along with Billy Crystal performed opening night at the famous Comic Strip, also in New York City. As a playwright Nancy has had readings of her play, STINKER at the famed Abingdon Theater in NYC. She’s also had a number of her 10-minute plays produced and this summer her one minute play SENTENCED will be performed at the annual Gi60 International Festival in Houston, Texas. She has held quite a few fundraisers for non-profits near and dear to her heart; with the support of her friends, Joy Behar, Susie Essman, Mario Cantone, Colin Quinn, Judy Gold, Jeff Ross, and Elayne Boosler, to name a few.
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BlewberryNausea said:
Snitch was an old lady working at McD’s called Nancy Parker and she has been doxed. People are claiming she got fired for ‘using the phone during work’ but I see no verification of that and it would be a pretty dumb move by the manager.
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Customer who noticed and told her is named Larry and is not doxed.
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Apparently people are shitting and raging at the Altoona McD’s
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McDonalds in Pennsylvania causing so many headlines and drama this past month.
 
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Letora said:
How the fuck do people make these AI videos, this is so impressive. It's funny now, but we're so fucked as a society when AI gets even better. Every defense will be "That's not me, that's an AI video someone made of me."
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This is several 6 second hailuo videos stitched together, you can see when the cuts happen. Premium account so there is no watermark.
 
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The Nothingness said:
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People thought this idiot would've been able to help win an election.

Josh Shapiro covers up murders, signs bombs, and is a proud IDF soldier but condemns a guy for shooting a parasite actually hurting Americans, he is throwing those stones in glass houses.

Not even mentioning that America has a history where killing has done those things.

History would be different if a bullet didn't go in Abraham Lincoln or if the entire Revolutionary War didn't happen, but we're supposed to march around with picket signs, send tweets, and shit while the CEOs can just close a window and dismiss the people protesting as whiny losers.

Not that I advocate for violent actions of course, but a violent action can change a lot of things and it would be nice to resolve things through words. But people like Josh Shapiro are part of the problem given he and every other politician are really just serving less than 1,000 people who gave them lots of money.
 
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For those that aren't understanding what the hero worship is about: He sacrificed everything he had to vanquish evil and succeeded. And not only did he do it in a way where no one else got hurt, he did it in a way where no one else was involved and he is now bearing the responsibility of the action. I don't think getting out of it alive was in the plan either, but he didn't off himself afterwards like a bitch.

Of course, this is only based off the story that's being circulated about it. Haven't taken the time to look at the backstory of Luigi or the CEO but the incident, in and of itself, is the stuff of legends.
 
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bort420 said:
but maybe consider that the machine is both incompetent and malicious. it needs to be reworked.

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Time will tell.
Luigi whether he ever intended or not has establish a dangerous precedent:
You can not only kill the untouchable elite out in the streets and even if you are caught society at large will hail you as a hero.
Now 99.9% of the people who are calling Luigi a hero aren't going to do much more than voice their support on social media and this'll likely die down in around 2-3 weeks until his trial and sentencing.
However as it's been said already in this thread before there will be people with no hope or future prospects who'll remember this occasion and just as Columbine inspired the mentally ill to shoot up schools and kill themselves to leave a similar legacy in infamy there'll be people who'll try to do the same thing to try gain the same sort of recognition as Luigi to various levels of success and public reception.
 
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AssignedEva said:
Christ said "suffer the little children and forbid them not to come unto me for such is the kingdom of Heaven". Brian appears to have misunderstood and made it his life mission to make little children suffer in the name of profit, before sending them off to Heaven. As for Luigi? God helps those who help themselves.
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You have contradicted yourself. If God helps those who helps themselves, he would not look so kindly on little children, who cannot help themselves. Nor would Jesus have spent so much time with those who could not help themselves. That Mr Thompson led an organisation led an organisation that has been engaged in unjust practices is not the matter of debate here either.

In fact, I would love for you to show me in the Scriptures where "God helps those who help themselves" appears.
 
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I searched but didn’t see this posted another manifesto possibly from his own website.

HEALTHCARE AND ITS VICTIMS
By Luigi Mangione
December 3rd, 2024
In this era of towering skyscrapers, artificial intelligence humming quietly through hospital corridors, and the endless litany of self-congratulation over the triumphs of medical science, I find myself compelled to break my silence. Our civilization boasts of its healthcare systems as if they were not only the apex of scientific achievement, but also a paragon of human morality. Yet I stand here, pen in hand, seething with indignation, filled with profound sadness, and forced at last to cast aside all pretenses. I must speak the truth: our modern healthcare system, especially in this country, is a cathedral built on sand—beautiful in its architectural conceits, but rotten at the foundation, a monument to hypocrisy and greed. Do not mistake my words as those of a lunatic or a lone fanatic. On the contrary, I have observed long and hard, meticulously compiling evidence, listening to the cries of the afflicted, and studying carefully the machinery of oppression that masquerades under the guise of healing. To some, I may appear as an isolated voice, an aberration within a culture that seems hypnotized by the glow of technological progress. But I know there are countless others who share my despair, who have looked, with aching hearts, upon loved ones left untreated, patients bankrupted by basic therapies, researchers stifled by corporate interests, and communities abandoned by hospitals that deem their existence “not profitable.” My decision to articulate this scathing condemnation arises not from hatred of humanity, but from a profound love for what humans could be if we only tore away the veil.

THE ILLUSION OF CARE​

We have long been told to trust the medical establishment, to believe that doctors and nurses, with their stethoscopes and white coats, stand as paragons of virtue. Indeed, many individual practitioners do sincerely devote their lives to healing the sick. But individuals alone, no matter how compassionate, struggle futilely within an institutional framework that undermines their noblest intentions at every turn. Healthcare as it currently stands is not designed to keep people healthy. It is designed to maintain a perpetual market for healthcare services, pharmaceuticals, and insurance policies. Our society brandishes statistics: improved survival rates for certain cancers, the advent of robotic surgeries, targeted gene therapies, and so forth. Yet behind these numbers, carefully chosen by public relations departments and government spokesmen, lurks a grim truth. The overall metrics of health—infant mortality rates, maternal health outcomes, life expectancy compared to other industrialized nations—tell a story of persistent failure, regression, and moral collapse. These discrepancies are not accidental. They are symptoms of a system that never had true universal care at its heart. When we say “healthcare,” we summon a reassuring image of a caring physician at a patient’s bedside. Yet, observe more closely: that bedside is now crowded by administrators, insurance adjusters, corporate attorneys, and pharmaceutical representatives. The doctor stands there, to be sure, but they are outnumbered, outmaneuvered, and often overshadowed by the intricate lattice of profit-oriented bureaucracy that defines the modern medical world. When the patient cries out in pain and seeks relief, the response that returns to them is not simply that of a healer ready to help, but of a cost-benefit analyst weighing whether their suffering is worth alleviating given the balance sheets. We are told that competitive markets improve quality and lower costs. This is the refrain of our times, the economic dogma that has been allowed to infiltrate even our perception of the sanctity of human life. But if competition were truly the engine of improvement, why do we witness skyrocketing prices for common drugs that have existed for decades? Why do hospitals close in rural areas, leaving entire regions bereft of care for hours around, simply because the population density is too low to justify investor interest? Why do insurers find convoluted ways to deny claims, to pile up obscure terms and conditions, all to ensure that their profit margins remain robust?

A SYSTEM DESIGNED TO FAIL​

It is a mistake to call our healthcare system “broken.” To do so would suggest it once functioned well and now falters by accident. But this system was never designed to safeguard the health of the many; it was engineered with the aim of financial gain for the few. It is a labyrinth deliberately constructed of administrative barriers, obfuscated billing practices, and legal complexities. This is not an unintended consequence—this is the blueprint. Bureaucracy swallows countless billions that could have built hospitals, funded research into neglected diseases, or delivered treatments to remote regions. Instead, those billions vanish into the machinery of profit, into ever-expanding layers of management and red tape. Insurance companies have become medical gatekeepers, wielding outsized power over decisions that rightfully belong to physicians, caregivers, and patients themselves. With every referral, every denied claim, every inflated cost for a pill that costs pennies to manufacture, they tighten the noose around public health. The apparatus is designed to confuse and exhaust patients until they simply give up, accepting substandard care or crushing debt. It is a system that counts on resignation, on the quiet despair of individuals who lack the means to fight back. I have watched this unfold from the inside. I have seen the incessant forms, the endless cycles of “pre-approvals,” the letters informing patients that their treatment—no matter how necessary, how urgently prescribed by their physician—is not “covered.” I have witnessed patients be told that their life-saving procedures must wait until an elusive committee of cost analysts determines whether their existence holds sufficient monetary value. I have seen healthcare institutions, purportedly philanthropic, gleefully profit off human pain, turning patients into revenue streams rather than human beings in need.

THE HUMAN COST OF INDIFFERENCE​

Every abstract policy, every line of fine print in an insurance contract, has a human face attached. Behind these faceless mechanisms are real lives unraveling. Families teeter on the brink of financial ruin because they dared to seek help for a sick child. Elders ration their medication—cutting pills in half, skipping doses altogether—because the market demands a price that can mean the difference between eating and treating a chronic illness. The cruelty is not confined to one class; it spreads and infiltrates the very fabric of our communities. The supposed moral society allows these tragedies to go on, day after day, in plain sight. Meanwhile, at the summit of this colossal edifice of inequity, the executives of vast health conglomerates earn salaries and bonuses that dwarf the cost of entire medical wings. They dine lavishly, clinking glasses and celebrating their fiscal quarters while, just a few floors below, patients beg for help and healthcare workers struggle with understaffing and burnout. The irony is as obscene as it is deliberate. As some lives are prolonged with the best treatments money can buy, others are cut short by conditions easily treated were it not for the cruelty of cost-based rationing. We pour billions into the development of groundbreaking drugs, yet we erect paywalls so high that only a fortunate fraction of patients will ever see them. The promise of modern medicine lies not only in its discoveries but in its equitable distribution—a promise we have so brazenly betrayed. I have lost friends—good, hardworking individuals—who slipped through the cracks because they could not afford the tests, the scans, the referrals. I have watched family members endure humiliating phone calls, pleading with insurance representatives who could not care less about their plight. I have seen the despair etched into their faces as they realize their options have run dry. It is a quiet kind of torture, a slow, bitter death of hope and trust in a system that was supposed to provide solace, not suffering.

A CALL TO ARMS: REVOLT AGAINST THE STATUS QUO​

Words alone are not enough, though I must start here. Actions, no matter how shocking, seem necessary to awaken a population lulled into accepting this desolation as normal. My manifesto is a desperate attempt to shake the foundations of a world that has allowed itself to be governed by heartless spreadsheets and corporate-led moral arithmetic. When I act, I do so in the name of humanity, not spite. It is not hatred that drives me, but the very opposite: love for a people who have been betrayed, compassion for those who die unremarked and unmet within the shadows of this market-driven machine. Our current passivity has been the nourishing soil in which this vile system thrives. We must not only acknowledge the problem but commit ourselves to radical, systemic changes. The solution does not lie in half-measures or superficial reforms but in a complete reimagining of how we structure healthcare. We must strip the profit motive from medicine. We must eradicate the legal structures that allow insurance companies to profiteer on misery. We must demand transparency, accountability, and equity at every stage. Healthcare should be a public good, not a speculative venture. Look at the models around the world where universal coverage is not just a slogan, but a reality. Study the nations that refuse to let a single individual go untreated because of an inability to pay. Understand that this transformation is not a pipe dream but an attainable goal, provided we have the courage to wrest power back from those who have proven, time and again, that they do not deserve our trust. We must demand that our leaders confront the issue head-on, tearing down the frameworks that perpetuate healthcare inequality. We must push for policies that prioritize patient outcomes over corporate earnings, that place moral purpose above shareholder dividends.

MY LEGACY AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY​

If my words and actions serve as a catalyst—if they spark a shift in your perspective, or perhaps even a grand movement—then my life will not have been lived in vain. I have chosen this moment to speak my truth because I know that many others feel it too but remain in silence, fearing repercussions, or simply overwhelmed by the scale of the catastrophe. Let my voice echo for them. Let it represent the countless silent sufferers who have not been allowed the dignity of proper care. I do not ask for your pity, nor do I seek your admiration. I do not want my name etched in stone as a martyr. Instead, I beg of you: scrutinize the system that calls itself “healthcare.” Look beyond the sensationalism that will inevitably surround my actions—spun by media outlets that rely on shock value. Penetrate the veil and see the underlying disease. Question every assumption about why a pill costs hundreds of dollars, why a specialist is out of reach, or why an insurance claim can be denied with impunity. Challenge every premise that leads to the commodification of health. I hope that future generations might look back at this turbulent era and wonder how we tolerated such cruelty under the guise of care. I hope they will marvel at how we once let human beings suffer and die while wealth piled up at the top, and I hope they will praise the efforts of those who dared to resist. If what I do today contributes a small brick to the foundation of a new healthcare paradigm, one defined by equity, compassion, and universal access, then my role in this story is meaningful. This manifesto is my final testament, my earnest appeal to the conscience of a world that has grown too comfortable with moral contradictions. Let the cost of my sacrifice be not in vain. Let it serve to ignite a transformative discussion and, more importantly, real action. The world desperately needs a healthcare system that honors its name: a system that is centered on healing and grounded in love, not money. Through this plea, I offer you a choice: continue to stand by as millions suffer, or join in building a legacy of decency, empathy, and genuine care.

In raw desperation—and with a sliver of hope—
Luigi Mangione
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Could just be someone fucking around.

edit: fake and gay turns out.
 
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Doctor of Autism said:
But people like Josh Shapiro are part of the problem given he and every other politician are really just serving less than 1,000 people who gave them lots of money.
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I really hope they're being seriously paid for it.
Not in a "HUR DURR TRAITOR TO THE PEOPLE" but there's a lot of people who've done a quick "oh yeah that happened killing is bad mkay" and drop it and move on to other stuff, or "here's the new developments today, moving on"
I cannot fathom a reason beyond literally being paid by some THEM! to do it, that somebody would pick this as a hill to die on.
 
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The Crescent King said:
The Bible is also full of stories of God smiting those who were just as depraved as Brian Thompson; nobody hates injustice more than God, as He too was a victim of it (if you believe the Christian story). God knows humans are fallible and prone to sin, and I doubt anyone here is going to be raked over the spiritual coals for feeling some much needed catharsis from the shooting - people aren't celebrating because they're psychopaths, they are normal human beings pushed to the brink under the most inhumane healthcare system in the modern world.

If you don't want Brian to he dehumanised, maybe he shouldn't have dehumanised himself so throughly by parasitically sucking the life-force of millions of Americans and condemning thousands to die in agony. In such a person the capacity to love has all but been extinguished.
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Then you do not understand the gravity of sin.

You cannot justify murder before God when he has stated that it is not our place to decide the fate of others for committing injustices. That is the role of governments in this temporal world, and will ultimately be his at the end of days, when everyone will be called to give an account of themselves.

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I'm no christian but I too can quote bible verses

John 2:13-17

Specifically this account of the cleansing of the temple, where Jesus himself whips the moneylenders (parasites) infesting the temple

It's likely the proximate cause of his death. So he did in fact pay dearly for violence. Yet he accomplished a great service to the public, who timidly supported him at the time.

Christians are supposed to be Christlike. Well?

Anyway the point is, he saw an injustice; chose a target and murdered him with as few collateral damages as possible. Neither "win" except, perhaps, society: a parasitic scumbag is gone from the earth, and a man who could be driven enough to murder someone is behind bars.
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He did not use the whip on the people. The Greek states that the whip was used on sheep and cattle, and most translations reflect that. The cause of his death was Jewish leaders who were sick of him claiming to be God, and a Roman ruler who did not want to risk further revolt, even if it meant going along with injustice.

Calling out injustice in the manner of Christ is a great thing to do, and we do so because Jesus, the only perfect human ever and God in the flesh, suffered the greatest injustice ever for our sake. God understands our suffering, because he suffered too. Crucifixion is a gruesome, painful, excruciating way to die.

Murdering someone is not calling out injustice in the manner of Christ.
 
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