Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

but in this particular case responding with a request for an extension seems unnecessarily risky. Why not file a quick response that payment should be deferred until final judgement, or offset by possible sanctions against Russ, and do the main argument about timing and against the need for opening books? If that gets denied THEN file for an extension. This seems like putting your most annoying foot forward first.

That’s not what Hardin is saying at all. The response looks like it provides no confirmation or denial of payment because the process for proving either will be extensive and strenuous.

My takeaway is Hardin neither confirmed nor denied payment and wants an extension to avoid having to waste holiday time researching the matter - especially if this is something from before he became Dear Leader's attorney.

Reading between the lines, I got the impression Hardin also filed the motion to tell the court, "While Russ is filing this motion, he's still refused to provide his witness list and other items he's been directed to disclose. That should be higher priority/more important than this motion right now."

 

[Billy Bong]

Russ must have been saving this like a card up his sleeve just in case his RECALCITRANT antics get to the point where sanctions are being discussed without realizing when this would actually be paid. This SHOULD create a massive problem for him but I'm betting because he's Pro Se the Judge will just give him another slap on the wrist since "Ooooh how could he have known this wasn't something to be paid yet???"

I hope not. He's egregious in his malicious retardation and it's high time that it gets slapped down.

 

[ScooterL]

Do you really need caselaw about the meaning of Christmas to ask for an extension

It has two upsides: i) it worked; ii) it reminded Russell of the existence of merriment, decoration, Christmas cheer, and Glory to God for the birth of Jesus Christ, none of which he will ever come to understand by using a whore as a toilet.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I've been party to a case where the appellate fees were awarded to the primary plaintiff immediately but that was due to extraneous circumstances, so who knows

Extraneous circumstances like the HARDSHIP that is Kiwi Farms? Circumstances like having your trousers stolen out of your luggage while being a homeless Uber driver brothel owner?

If there's one thing I know about the law, it's that emailed pictures of Hitler are an emergency circumstance that can be universally applied to every pleading. Blackstone called it res extraordinaria ex imaginibus hitlerium.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I need to vent about Russ's utter stupidity and perpetual nonsense, in order of his motion as I reacted, aka no particular order:

• How does Russ not even know the correct amount?
• In neither reposted image do I see where Hardin "blamed" or "touted." The images (that I could see) were Russ's requests.
• He's alleging court-ordered debt not paid, sure, so presumptively valid and owing, but even aside from the offset argument, this should ordinarily have been no more than some kind of show-cause order - not leaping to "appear at court to be examined on your finances and provide all your financial info." And all that for $284 $225. Lol.
• Russ is saying "I should be able to see his wallet to prove he can afford to pay, but there's not even an allegation Josh said "I can't afford you."
• Russ also helpfully acknowledges that he himself dropped the ball on requesting payment for 7 months before asking again. Yes, it's court-ordered and due (or offset, but that hasn't been agreed or clarified), but Russ recites...virtually nothing indicating any kind of diligent pursuit of what is owed to him.
• And THEN he said in the motion that he asked for payment on 12/9; the exhibit shows he asserted a 12/9 deadline - so this suggests he sent a second-request text [with different payment info] and said "pay today"...and then the next day or so went straight to court demanding a full financial examination?
• How much retardation is it possible to fit into 1.5 pages of double-spaced text? (Rhetorical; we know.)

He's just such a chimp.

 

[DHugo]

It has two upsides: i) it worked; ii) it reminded Russell of the existence of merriment, decoration, Christmas cheer, and Glory to God for the birth of Jesus Christ, none of which he will ever come to understand by using a whore as a toilet.

What if the whore is dressed as Santa?

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

It worked, though. The request was granted:

Sure, the request was granted. It's a first extension request for a response to a ridiculous motion on an issue that has been left dormant for almost a year.

My point was that this could have been one paragraph instead of 4 pages of citations on the meaning of christmas and it would get granted. Or maybe just "yer honor, this motion was so stupid and december is so busy that we need some extra time for this."

Edit: I agree with the poster above who thought it very interesting that Russ came up with THIS alleged remedy for what, at most, is an insignificant oversight. Which is to say: I don't believe he came up with it.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Do you think the RV has “THE HARDINSHIP” painted on the side?

 

[Bill Evans 45]

That was a very nice footnote. I sincerely wish Mr Hardin a happy and peaceful Christmas.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

That was a very nice footnote. I sincerely wish Mr Hardin a happy and peaceful Christmas.

Both him and Dear Sneeder.

Now, Russ, as a reminder, the extension was granted to Hardin, not you. Chop chop, the clock is ticking!

 

[Bogliacci]

Now, Russ, as a reminder, the extension was granted to Hardin, not you. Chop chop, the clock is ticking!

false, it totally applies to Russ. Let him take a break, he's working as hard as he can.

 

[lol cow supreme]

Do you think the RV has “THE HARDINSHIP” painted on the side?

It does, but some pesky kid keeps scratching out the I for an O

Now, Russ, as a reminder, the extension was granted to Hardin, not you. Chop chop, the clock is ticking!

Cases work serially for Russ, but also like closing brackets or code tags. He will totally claim he thought that since this matter of the $225 is on hold, everything else stops. Until Hardin has provided his rebuttal to the motion for a financial discovery or the judge orders it, nothing moves forward.

 

[Jotch]

I'm no lawyer, but I think Hardin really messed up with this one, since by filing an extension it proves that he doesn't want to prosecute the case.
It might be possible for a pro se litigant to file an "Injunction to Compel" (I think that's what its called) to force the opposing party to respond to another motion, maybe even if an extension was granted. Generally it could be only applicable if cases go on for a long time, like this one.
This probably would seriously throw a wrench into the case since Hardin won't be paying attention over vacation and would probably miss the deadline.

 

[SCRAM]

I'm no lawyer, but I think Hardin really messed up with this one, since by filing an extension it proves that he doesn't want to prosecute the case.
It might be possible for a pro se litigant to file an "Injunction to Compel" (I think that's what its called) to force the opposing party to respond to another motion, maybe even if an extension was granted. Generally it could be only applicable if cases go on for a long time, like this one.
This probably would seriously throw a wrench into the case since Hardin won't be paying attention over vacation and would probably miss the deadline.

What are you on about?

The extension was granted, the court isn't going to grant the extension and then reverse it by ordering Hardin to compel. Yes the case is old, the motion however is not.

Hardin also didn't say he was going on vacation, just that he doesn't think a deadline on it around Christmas for what is a trivial motion is fair or a priority. Hardin will likely be watching for fillings from Greer up until Christmas.

 

[FamicomGorby]

What are you on about?

The extension was granted, the court isn't going to grant the extension and then reverse it by ordering Hardin to compel.

Hardin also didn't say he was going on vacation, just that he doesn't think a deadline on it around Christmas for what is a trivial motion is fair or a priority. Hardin will likely be watching for fillings from Greer up until Christmas.

@Jotch was joking your sperg. Greer might just start repeating everything Hardin has done to compel him to get off his ass because Hardin asked for an extension because of Christmas and the motion being ridiculous. This is cause Greer is an idiot and practices Cargo Cult law.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

What are you on about?

I like your attempt to cover up Greer's best option going forward. Null was right that people shouldn't fucking post to help his ass.

 

[SCRAM]

I like your attempt to cover up Greer's best option going forward. Null was right that people shouldn't fucking post to help his ass.

Greer can file all he wants, I find it entertaining reading his drivel. It's like a little window in to his messed up perspective on how the world should work.

Not sure how pointing out Greer is fucked regarding his filing and deadline help him.

Edit: I was less than sober when I responded to this and missed the sarcasm. I will leave this up as an example for others, or some shit.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I hope Russ does get his Parkinson's ridden father to testify, just so he can say "It wasn't the kiwifarms that fucked up my son's life, it was his own fucking bullshit. And I'm a Mormon saying that!"

 

[.iota.]

nobody has commented on the aspect of greer's motion that's the most interesting (except for mr. hardin) ...

greer's insistence on litigating against "kiwi farms, a website" has come back to bite him in the ass. in the opening sentence of his motion, he requests a debtor's examination of null and "lolwcow llc":

he then requests all "books, documents, bank statements [ ... ] relating to [ ... ] lolcow's assets.":

however, greer did not file a bill of costs against null and lolcow, llc:

he (the appellant) filed and was awarded costs against "appellees kiwi farms and joshua moon":

he's filing this now because he wants to introduce the litigation fund as evidence.

ostensibly, it's "to establish that moon has the money to satisfy the awarded damages", but that's not why he wants access to lolcow's assets. he's still bitter about "defendants making hundreds of thousands of dollars off of plaintiff's likeness", and he wants to demonstrate to the court that those hundreds of thousands of dollars exist, so that he can then claim them in the calculation of costs that mr. hardin has repeatedly requested from him, and which the court has now obligated him to produce, regarding the alleged copyright infringement.

he wants to plead his plights to the court (again) as the poor, disabled victim whose dreams have been shattered by a well-funded and unrestrained hate machine, owned and operated by his opponent. unfortunately for him, only one of those entities has a litigation fund, and it isn't the one that he insisted on including in every legal document that was involved in the courts' decision to award costs.

 

[RodgerDodger]

My takeaway is Hardin neither confirmed nor denied payment and wants an extension to avoid having to waste holiday time researching the matter - especially if this is something from before he became Dear Leader's attorney.

Reading between the lines, I got the impression Hardin also filed the motion to tell the court, "While Russ is filing this motion, he's still refused to provide his witness list and other items he's been directed to disclose. That should be higher priority/more important than this motion right now."

Hardin may also legitimately not know the status of that award? That would have been under Skordas, would it not?