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[fukefacedog]

Yeah, no. Who is Project Unity and why are they creating bad fanfiction? How do drones prevent/mitigate/address biological or nuclear attacks? Adding that angle in makes the story 100x bigger, and more likely to cause normie reporters to give a shit about it.

I prefer Ross Coulthart's idea of it being Russia/China, not acknowledged simply because the military/Biden administration don't want to force the issue, potentially cause a confrontation, or otherwise tip their hand. Although there could be different culprits for the multiple distinct (((drone))) waves: New Jersey, UK, and earlier ones such as Langley Air Force base in December 2023 (and other bases).

Agreed.

"multiple sources in the military" basically has me turn my brain off at this point.

Give me a name or shut the fuck up.

Project Unity is no one important. A spiritualist and UFO buff from the UK. Jay Anderson played a significant role in bringing attention to the Wilson-Davis Memo. He conducted interviews and discussions that highlighted the contents of the memo. Anderson's efforts helped to confirm aspects of the memo through interviews with individuals mentioned in the document, such as Oke Shannon, but many aspects as i'm sure you are aware remain questionable.

He is of the Remote Viewing camp, the whole idea that UFO's factor into "cognition".

As you may be able to sense I can't fucking stand the person nor his type.

The other thing too is DOD already told us it wasn't them, so I highly doubt they are sweeping the area and not telling us, and not evacuating people, and telling people to report to them drones that they themselves are flying.


This shit is crazy bros. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, and barely anybody is talking about it.

This is within the same general area 9/11 happened.

Also recall that just recently on December 7, 2024, the anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack, China conducted significant military exercises near Taiwan.

And now China is fucking around in the same area 9/11 happened.

China knows what it's doing. It knows what we care about. It knows how to make a point.

And as far as i'm concerned, the point has been made.

China can not be allowed to operate like this anymore.

When people are sending Drones into the same general area 9/11 occurred at, it's time to shut them down.

They are on our soil now.

Various reports on Chinese Nationals conducting espionage throughout the US:






























The Long Island study was conducted first on July 2022, and we know for certain they were checking the Federal Aviation Administration's Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast Data to ensure they were not just commercial Aircraft. These two areas are right next to each other:


Have they been doing this since at least July 2022?

Local Archives in rough Chronological Order:

FBI investigating drone incursions in New Jersey​

"It's unsettling, they're up for hours." New Jersey Residents react to drone incursions​

Rep. Rob Wittman asks about drone incursions into Langley Air Force base​

Mystery drones seen over the houses of FBI Agents investigating the drone incursions on US bases​

Police helicopter chasing drones in New Jersey​

"While it hovered above them the clock in their car changed time." New Jersey drones​

"Their presence appears nefarious in nature." NJ Police chief on drone incursions​

Lue Elizondo is heading to New Jersey to solve the anomalous drone incursions above US bases​

"Contacting subject matter experts" Pentagon response to anomolous drone incursions over New Jersey​

Rotor drone fixed with wings New Jersey drone incursions​

"We have no information on who the drones belong to" South New Jersey Police Chief press conference​

"In the 30 minutes we've been here we've seen 7 drones in the sky above us." 69 News New Jersey​

"There are certain shapes consistently that are unexplained..." Rep. Nancy Mace on drone incursions​

"Drones have also been spotted over Statten Island."​

Police Chief Walt Miller update on drone incursions in South New Jersey​

Early New Jersey Drone Report November 19, 2024​

Ocean County Sherriff''s department captures footage of an unidentified drone using their own drone​

The New Jersey governerment knows more than they are saying - New Jersey Gubitorial candidate​

"I am gravely concerned," Senator Mark Warner on the unidentified drone incursions​

New Jersey State Senator calls for an investigation into the FBI's slow response to the drones​

"One of his officers saw 50 drones come off of the ocean." New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith Drones​

“It is concerning that they are flying over military installations…" Rep Malliotakis​

"we don't know what they are, or who's behind them, or what they're doing" Rep. Malliotakis Drones​

"It's not just over Jersey..." Lue Elizondo on drone incursions​

Drone seen off the coast of New Jersey​

Giant glowing UFO off New Jersey coast witness testimony​

FBI doesn't know what the New Jersey drones are​

"We don't know what the drones in New Jersey are?" FBI: "That's right."​

"Any drone in the skies should be able to be taken down if there's no way to authenticate them."​

"The President is aware." White house Press Secretary on New Jersey drones​

Congresswoman Malliotakis questioning during the New Jersey drones congressional hearing​

Speaker of the house Mike Johnson doesn't think the mystery drones are US black projects​

"We can't figure out where they are taking off and landing from." New Jersey Mayor​

"I think that they are not being honest with us" Senator Josh Hawley on New Jersey drones​

Fox News Host records drone above her New Jersey Home!​

New Jersey man tries intercepting mystery drone with his fully charged drone then the battery dies​

New Jersey Congressman says that Iran launched the drones from a Mothership off the East Coast​

Pentagon says there is no Iranian Mothership. These are not coming from a foreign adversary... They are not American." Pentagon on the NJ Drones​

Mine Hill Township Mayor Sam Morris on Drones taking over New Jersey sky​

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://preservetube.com/watch?v=SApQP5ArlFI

 

[fukefacedog]

From ABC News:

4 to 180 sightings per day is a pretty large range of numbers.

The time is weird too, 6-11pm? I figured it'd be like fucking midnight at least, almost seems like they wanted to get as many eyes of them as possible. Pick the time when everyone is getting home from work to see it.

They wanted to be seen.

Fucking crazy shit.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

Seems like a psyop to get Americans to support missile defense systems.
Seems like a good thing. hopefully we do have drones as cool as those in the works.

 

[fukefacedog]

'Worthless': NJ lawmaker walks out of meeting about mysterious drones​

Local Archive:

Sorry for the Zoomer formating I can't quickly find a normal person ratio but this interview is too good not to archive.

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Seems like a psyop to get Americans to support missile defense systems.
Seems like a good thing. hopefully we do have drones as cool as those in the works.

Your dick is a psyop.

Just kidding : P

I had that thought honestly. I even played with the idea, from my camp, that they were using it as a way to "debunk" the UAP narrative. But I just don't think that's the case either way.

I think this is real. And when you look at how China is operating, and frankly how desperate they are likely to become in the current world order (forced to rely on Russia for Oil, can't even report GDP anymore because their economy is made of paper and lies), I really just think it's an attempt by China to "look powerful" and "scary".

Honestly, as jazzed up as I am about all of this, i'm not actually that nervous.

I just understand the power of a well managed American Military combined with its allies, in the long run.

I think for people their might be a mental disconnect right now because these are drones not people. But I think people need to get over that and understand that drones and people are equivalent, militarily.

And when you have either people or drones on your fucking soil committing Acts of War™ , it's time to lay down the law, internationally, in my opinion.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

'Worthless': NJ lawmaker walks out of meeting about mysterious drones​

Local Archive:
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Sorry for the Zoomer formating I can't quickly find a normal person ratio but this interview is too good not to archive.

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Your dick is a psyop.

Just kidding : P

I had that thought honestly. I even played with the idea, from my camp, that they were using it as a way to "debunk" the UAP narrative. But I just don't think that's the case either way.

I think this is real. And when you look at how China is operating, and frankly how desperate they are likely to become in the current world order (forced to rely on Russia for Oil, can't even report GDP anymore because their economy is made of paper and lies), I really just think it's an attempt by China to "look powerful" and "scary".

Honestly, as jazzed up as I am about all of this, i'm not actually that nervous.

I just understand the power of a well managed American Military combined with its allies, in the long run.

I think for people their might be a mental disconnect right now because these are drones not people. But I think people need to get over that and understand that drones and people are equivalent, militarily.

And when you have either people or drones on your fucking soil committing Acts of War™ , it's time to lay down the law, internationally, in my opinion.

Why aren't we trying to shoot one down to get more information about them?
So long as this isn't some casus belli for China then I don't care. It would make more sense if this was China for them to be all over California or the west coast.

 

[fukefacedog]

Why aren't we trying to shoot one down to get more information about them?
So long as this isn't some casus belli for China then I don't care. It would make more sense if this was China for them to be all over California or the west coast.

They are over or near Urban areas, we don't know what kind of fuel source they have, if they are carrying a payload, if there will be an explosion, how large that explosion will be, and if there will be fallout afterwards, nuclear or otherwise.

That said, there is too much we don't know right now. We don't know if they have tried to take them down, either kinetically or otherwise, there are reports that they've tried non-kinetic methods, which failed, but otherwise we just don't know yet.

And frankly, I highly doubt they are going to tell us anything right now, because it's a security risk.

The less the Ooperators of these drones know about our plans the better right now, considering the severity and sheer scale of their actions, again, near the site of 9/11. And they DID deploy drones into Jersey on Pearl Harbor day as well.

That is a very very Chinese thing to do.

They REALLY like twisting that knife and taking no prisoners aside for rape.

It was only the Europeans who had the sense to develop civilizing concepts like "the rules of war", and taking care of captured enemies.

China doesn't understand why we do that. Japan had to learn. Perhaps someday soon China will too.

These people don't properly understand why the rules of war are necessary. These people are fucking animals.

Not all of them of course : P , just... you know. You study enough history and come to understand how special Europe really was, and why countries like China think it's appropriate to do something like this to Civilians who no doubt are absolutely and utterly scarred, rightfully, by what happened to them on 9/11.

First sightings were confirmed on November 13th over Picatinny Arsenal, a Military Research Facility.

So 29 Days, they are saying.

However, if the Long Island study was in fact Tracking many of these kinds of Drones (which I think it was in most instances), that first occurred on roughly July 1st 2022, which means this may have been going on for roughly 895 days in small amounts, and has ramped up progressively to November 13th 2024 when the number of Drones skyrocketed to what it is today.

 

[Anonitolia]

If these are Chinese drones, how have they managed to reach the East Coast of the US without being spotted elsewhere? The only other country I've seen reporting that there were drones in the sky was the UK. If the Chinese somehow got drones onto the East Coast, it would've had to have been done either by flying over Africa, Europe, or the Middle East, or over the entire West Coast of the US.

I have an extremely hard time believing that these drones could have flown over the Middle East or Eastern Europe without at least one becoming collateral damage of both ongoing wars. 0 way not a single drone has been accidentally hit by an Israeli missile or something while a skirmish was going down.
And if they came over the West Coast, that's even harder to believe. You're telling me that, even with unprecedented danger coming from the sea and sky hitting Washington and parts of Oregon in the last month, not a single soul reported a single sighting of these strange drones? Nothing even remotely like them?

The most plausible idea is that they took a weird zig-zag path through Middle-Of-Nowhere, China, then through either Thailand or India, then under the southernmost tip of Africa before finally landing in New Jersey... without being battered by the weather and drastic changes in temperature or spotted once.

And supposedly this has been going on for at least 29 days, possibly almost 900?

I'm not as knowledgeable on the situation as I'd like to be so feel free to correct me. I just want to try and whitepill where I can, and I think it's a little silly to imply that these are Chinese if they've been coming here in these great quantities for so so long without a single detection until a month or so ago. It's possible that foreign operatives just took a boat or plane and then set them loose here after landing, but wouldn't that make them pretty easy to track?

Again, not the most tuned-in, just hoping that my initial observation is accurate enough to warrant calming down over. It's not like anyone on the Farms can do anything about this either way, so until these start affecting our personal lives it's probably healthier to watch from a distance and detach instead of panicking about national security just yet. (Especially since we're on the cusp of a new administration, anyways, so if this one continues being a dunceheaded sloth about the situation then we can place a bit of hope in the next administration doing a better job!)

 

[Narcotics]

A drone from one of the most viral videos that has come out of this event has been identified as a small plane.

Another possible explanation to the lights that seem to move in and out of the nightsky are starlink satellites flashing reflected sunlight.

Spoiler: video

After staring at this video for a while it reminded me of that one recent timelapse that's been circulating around. There's over 6400 of them floating around out there. Gives an explanation as to why these things are apparently just visible at night time. But i must admit, i can't find an explanation as to why these have been spotted more often this past month.

This is why i'm saying i don't trust civilain (or hell, even police) reports of these things so much. Where are the high-res photos and videos of these car-sized drones?

 

[Fuck Bankers]

A drone from one of the most viral videos that has come out of this event has been identified as a small plane.

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Another possible explanation to the lights that seem to move in an out the nightsky are starlink satellites flashing reflected sunlight. After staring at this video for a while it reminded me of that one recent timelapse that has been circulating around. There's over 6400 of them floating around out there. Gives an explanation as to why these things are apparently just visible at night time. But i must admit, i can't find an explanation as to why these have been spotted more often this past month.

This is why i'm saying i don't trust civilain (or hell, even police) reports of these things so much. Where are the high-res photos and videos of these car-sized drones?

Civilians and Police are the only ones giving any kind of detail. The military just say that it's classified and they can't do anything about it. They can't even follow the damn things. Which can't be true.

The only way for these things to be foreign assets is if they were somehow smuggled in the country and activated by spies within the country. I doubt the media would want to say that because it would strengthen the isolationist position.

They're some kind of new military drone that they're showing off and trying to spook Americans (Russian, and Chinese) with for some reason. Could be a good reason, could be a bad reason.

 

[Your Greatest Ally]

Something to keep in mind, if these are just Chinese drones they're using to fuck with us, they wouldn't have to make a 12000 mile magical journey across multiple continents and an ocean to reach the U.S..
Just put them on a container ship with the latest shipment of microplastics, pay the guys who loaded it to look the other way, then launch them when you get near the U.S. coast.
Ship arrives, business as usual, no one the wiser.

 

[Kupier]

My bets are on Chinese. No, they didn't zip across Africa, Europe, and Canada to get here. Just put some on a boat with crew. I'm thinking it's not Russia or Middle Eastern because we would have definitely seen them being used in field warfare by now. It could even be a group of Chinese living in the states and assembling parts here, reporting back, whatever, don't even need a boat.

Edit: ninjad

 

[fukefacedog]

@Anonitolia

You're telling me that, even with unprecedented danger coming from the sea and sky hitting Washington and parts of Oregon in the last month, not a single soul reported a single sighting of these strange drones? Nothing even remotely like them?

Why do you think they conducted a Study on Long Island on July 1st 2022 all the way to July 2023? They spent literally a year out there, with Radar, Visible-spectrum Cameras, IR Cameras, and LIDAR guns to get Range, and tracked objects for that entire year, and published a paper on it.

Why did they do that?

Because people were saying that they were seeing shit.

So they picked that area.

It's not like anyone on the Farms can do anything about this either way, so until these start affecting our personal lives it's probably healthier to watch from a distance and detach instead of panicking about national security just yet.

I want to respond to this too, actually.

You and I likely have very different opinions about the users of this webzone.

I personally believe that this site has access to extremely intelligent individuals. This is one of the reasons why I brought this topic to this website and not any other, and one of the reasons why i've chosen to commit my cataloging here despite the low engagement, because I see it as an investment that will pay off, and in some ways it already has.

I actually DO personally believe that the conversations that occur here matter. The conversations I have with individuals here are unlike any other that I've had in recent memory on the Internet.

Like your comment here:

I have an extremely hard time believing that these drones could have flown over the Middle East or Eastern Europe without at least one becoming collateral damage of both ongoing wars. 0 way not a single drone has been accidentally hit by an Israeli missile or something while a skirmish was going down.
And if they came over the West Coast, that's even harder to believe. You're telling me that, even with unprecedented danger coming from the sea and sky hitting Washington and parts of Oregon in the last month, not a single soul reported a single sighting of these strange drones? Nothing even remotely like them?

The most plausible idea is that they took a weird zig-zag path through Middle-Of-Nowhere, China, then through either Thailand or India, then under the southernmost tip of Africa before finally landing in New Jersey... without being battered by the weather and drastic changes in temperature or spotted once.

While I think you are incorrect for the reasons other users have stated, I still REALLY appreciate comments like this. And comments like this are the reason why i've come here.

There is more I could say but i'll leave it at that.

Simply put, you and I see this website very differently.

 

[Narcotics]

Remember a page ago i said "If these things are just misidentified planes, why not come out and say it?" They did that just now, sort of.

"Many"
We don't have official numbers of how many actual sightings have been reported, so how many confirmed misidentified objects are they talking about? could be thousands, hundreds, could be just 10, who knows. And how many of these sightings have NOT been confirmed? again, who knows.

If we go by what i posted before, most of these have indeed been just planes, helicopters and satellites. In the midst of this chaos, maybe there are actual unknown drones in those unconfirmed sightings sprinkled in there.

Should you be a good goy and instantly believe everything the gov says? no. But this is a very interesting development, for me, atleast.

 

[Oxyjen]

My bets are on Chinese. No, they didn't zip across Africa, Europe, and Canada to get here. Just put some on a boat with crew. I'm thinking it's not Russia or Middle Eastern because we would have definitely seen them being used in field warfare by now. It could even be a group of Chinese living in the states and assembling parts here, reporting back, whatever, don't even need a boat.

Edit: ninjad

I largely agree but there’s one factor which makes me think it might be Russia, and that is that Russia has submarines. It would be super easy to have an undetected sub in the deep water off the east coast, quietly popping out drones on foggy nights.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

I largely agree but there’s one factor which makes me think it might be Russia, and that is that Russia has submarines. It would be super easy to have an undetected sub in the deep water off the east coast, quietly popping out drones on foggy nights.

I had a similar thought. However, if they did have these drones I'd expect for them to be seen on the Ukrainian battlefield. Maybe the Chinese asked the Russians to release them for the shits and giggles?

 

[Major von der Westfront]

I have a suspicion.

This could be related to Anduril since Anduril has some offices in Boston, Mass and also in Georgia.

We have been seeing some shit in Florida near Fort Lauderdale apparently. Now, as mentioned here:

The Long Island study was conducted first on July 2022, and we know for certain they were checking the Federal Aviation Administration's Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast Data to ensure they were not just commercial Aircraft. These two areas are right next to each other:
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Have they been doing this since at least July 2022?

It could be very possible that these are related. How? Well:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20241212020131/en/Archer-Announces-Strategic-Partnership-With-Anduril-to-Develop-Hybrid-VTOL-Military-Aircraft-Raises-An-Additional-430M

I don't know about you guys, but I have a suspicion that this is Anduril's drones..

 

[Oxyjen]

I had a similar thought. However, if they did have these drones I'd expect for them to be seen on the Ukrainian battlefield.

Maybe they do? In the Ukraine war thread there’s talk of a “mothership” drone which releases multiple hunter killer drones, and acts as a repeater / surveillance platform.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Ass Press: US senator says mysterious drones spotted in New Jersey should be ‘shot down, if necessary’ (archive) - Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut.

NewsNation: Alleged UFO over Oregon caused pilots to divert (archive)

Daily Mail: Experts reveal what mystery drones over New Jersey REALLY are... and why Americans should be terrified (archive) (Reddit) - "And retired police lieutenant and intelligence analyst Tim McMillan told DailyMail.com that the descriptions of the UFOs in Jersey 'sound exactly like Russian Orlan-10 drones' — secretive craft that fly in packs of three to five."

NJ.com: Drones reported over 2nd N.J. military facility, Navy says (archive) (Reddit)

Selected Reddit:

• 180 cows go missing in Montrose County, CO 12/12/2024
• New Jersey Mayor Melham on Drones ( Safe to say UFOs) Dec. 12th - clip
• And the NJ UAP/drone mask is off. - False flag to control drone sales.
• New Jersey State Police says "drones" are reportedly operating on FREQUENCIES IMPOSSIBLE to detect.
• WH NS Advisor John Kirby on drone activity in New Jersey: "We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat..We have not been able to...corroborate any of the reported visual sightings." - clip
• Major gaslighting in the WH press briefing today 12/12/24
• Christopher Sharp: "Congress has given the DoD a range of authorities under Title 10, section 130i to conduct counter-UAS operations in the homeland". This means they can shoot down drones near critical facilities. There goes the "no threat" narrative
• Reporter calls out Pentagon gaslighting: They're adequately investigating the drones, but not thoroughly enough to claim possession of still imagery, yet they are able to determine that the drones pose no threat. "Make it make sense" - clip
• I love this reporter questioning him on the drone/ufo situation. - clip
• DoD - Replicator Update Posted

 

[Spergerella Junior]

Y’all, I don’t like this drone shit. Some have been spotted in my township as well. Or folks are suffering from mass psychosis. Like the clown sitings a decade ago!

Stupid question, but where are all the gun toting good fellas? I am surprised there hasn’t been mass incidents of people taking pot shots at them.