Devon Del Vecchio / "Dev" / ShortFatOtaku / @sleepy_devo - Degenerate loser, honorary whiteknight for Lilith Lovett, constantly at odds with his own viewers for being a centrist

Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
He could show proof that cameralady actually existed and wasn’t just his imaginary gf / sock account for extorting lewds from egirls. Aside from that, he could stop being a tard on the internet and just confine his faggotry to the unfortunate handful of people he knows IRL. I think that would improve my opinion of him slightly. If Bathtub Ross could do it, short gay retard can do it too.
 
Dev made a video about knocking down political signs and how both sides do it guys
Dev said:
I know you think it's like attaching a superhero cape to your truck? But you look like a tool.

There's a pickup truck over in Plainview that has the affectionate nickname "The Trumpenwagon" and it gets cheers and waves wherever it goes. Especially from other drivers.

Just relentless positivity. Not really seen too much like it.
 
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Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
Dev is a person who will say the most spectacularly incorrect things conceivable, with total confidence. And will double, and triple, and quadruple down until the day breath leaves his lungs for good. The question isn't so much "what he needs to do", the question is "is he capable of doing it". Because he frankly isn't.

He doesn't possess the mental complexity necessary to understand his position and the situation he's in, and he seems proud of this fact.
 
There's a pickup truck over in Plainview that has the affectionate nickname "The Trumpenwagon" and it gets cheers and waves wherever it goes. Especially from other drivers.

Just relentless positivity. Not really seen too much like it.
Thats the fun part about pickups, you can make them your own personal chariots. It gives them a level of character sedans and SUV's just don't have. That is a bit of fun killer cope from Dev tbh.
 
Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
Two things: stop arguing with people he disagrees with, and stop acting like his opinions are facts.
 
So I haven't read the whole thread, please don't hate me.

I watch Dev occasionally for some video about fascism for example, or the election etc. I didn't really have anything wrong toward him. His chouce of sources or interpretation of his sources are sometimes dubious. And he is clearly playing a role of fence sitter, I'm not sure if it is for the grift, to appear moderate and appeal to moderate, or if he really thinks you have to be in the center to be balanced and right. He's a different kind of "centrist" than Adam and Sitch for example, it seems more like carefully calculated for him, following his audience response to his video. I think Adam and Sitch have principles and stick to them and fall in the middle, depending on the subject. But for Dev, i think he does not have deeply held principles. Or maybe he has, but that's not the one he is advertising.

But that's not why I am here. Apparently he's so involved in some kind of drama that the person he is in drama with got recommend to me on X. Someone called Aydin Paladin, and I made the mistake to check her Youtube...let's me preface this by the fact that i'm an autistic woman, and I often really attracted to other autistic woman, This Aydin could totally get into my pants if my husband was ok with it, I really enjoyed the couple of video I've watched so far.

Then I got recommend a video yesterday when i was in a train back home from a man called Uzalu, where this Aydin lady was invited. Apparently Dev "joked" about him being a pdf. He also leaked private message about Sargon (even if i disagree politically, i like what the fella has become since GG), all while being mad because he accused her of leaking a DM? And also he is okay with having a non-offending PDF in his discord all while having minors in it? But also called out Aydin for banning a PDF from hers 5 hours after discovering it? If all of this is true, what a fucking hypocrite with principle for thee but not for me! See point 1 about having no principle.

Also, there is another thing bothering me. I have checked his Twitch a few time when he was live with his gf (or wife), I don't know if this has been discusssed here before, but does anyone here think he is very toxic towards here? Like negging, sarcasm, almost insulting? And her attitude made me think she didn't want to be there at that time? Am I crazy? (well i know i am but..) My husband would have been sleeping on the couch and I would have had a serious reajustement talk with him if he had talked to me like that.

(yes I'll ready the thread now, just emptying my bag)

Edit: ah yes, i think the idea expressed in that Uzalu video is true, he wants to bang these women but can't so he is mad at them. Also Aydin, 30 something is not being a hag, unless you're Stefan Molyneux and your life is about counting eggs.
 
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Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
The only thing he could do to stop the hate is to stop being himself. He refuses to change so it’ll never happen.
 
Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
Dev could stop the hate anytime he wants using a very simple method that works for 99% of "influencers" called "taking the L".
1. Shut the fuck up.
2. Consider people criticizing or disagreeing with you to be in good faith.
3. Issue a fake apology / retraction "Yeah guys, I messed up this time. I shouldn't have harrassed that Vtuber / gravedanced / lied about something / allowed pedos in my discord / done an inappropriate or illegal thing. Now I know better and won't do it again."
4. All good will has been redeemed from 99% of your base audience. And your non-audience, who you antagonized will forget and move on to the next drama.

The problem is Dev has said multiple times that he doesn't consider people who disagree with him or criticize him to be good faith, and he constantly does down on retarded takes instead if just saying "yeah, I was being retarded wasn't I, thanks for setting me straight. "
 
Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
There's a few things he can do so I'll just throw out a few suggestions to start out with.
Stop cheating on his gf.
Admit he's back stabbed multiple creators in an effort to further his own ends on YouTube.
Admit he outright hates women.
Come out of the closet.
Leave the Arch cast.
Take a bath with a toaster.
Repeat the previous step as necessary.
 
Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
I don't consider it a matter of hate. All he would have to do is stop being a smarmy faggot that feels compelled to have the last word under all circumstances and I'd get bored and move on before long.
 
Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
For me, it would take him admitting he was wrong on certain topics, and go back to his high quality videos.

I don't care about the off channel drama. If he doesn't like Trump, I might be able to deal with that. The problem is he's twisting himself in knots trying to justify his conclusions instead of the other way around, and when his (now former) fans correct him he screams about "bad faith" and "TDSDS". Add in deleting his old videos and it comes across as dishonest.

What's more difficult is that it's clear he doesn't want to make politics videos any more, which would be fine, but GameBoomers is failing because he brings nothing to the table. If he started doing ProJared style game reviews or put his autistic level of research into documentaries, I wouldn't watch it but at least it would be something.
 
He could try not blowing up all his relationships with his friends for one. He does it every time. Also tranny chaser.
Stop simping for feds and the state, stop faking he’s a centrist, stop lying and being bad faith, stop trying to have gay drama wars with vtubers, stop assuming he’s smarter than he actually is, treat his friends better, and he could turn around things around.

But this is dev, so he won’t. So I will continue to mock this faggot until he gets boring.
 
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Thats the thing, he used to SOUND smart in his philosophy/culture war videos, but ever since 2022 and his first falls of morality because of his tranny thirst, it went down from there.

But i bet even since he rebranded himself as a centrist, he started to skew and lie about stuff too, or just simple get shit wrong, even if you look bad as his ''good videos from the past''.
 
Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
Stop being terminally online and get a real job... Only way for anyone on internet to stop hate...

And if he did it, nothing of value would be lost.
 
Dev is a person who will say the most spectacularly incorrect things conceivable, with total confidence. And will double, and triple, and quadruple down until the day breath leaves his lungs for good. The question isn't so much "what he needs to do", the question is "is he capable of doing it". Because he frankly isn't.
So he's your average leftist it's like watching Kyle kolinsky who just says insanely incorrect things and lies through his teeth and spreads what we would call dangerous misinformation.
You don't have to say truthful things if you believe in left-leaning opinions because your Fifi is an excuse
 
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Legit question to all post to this thread. What could Dev do to help stop all the hate? Is there even anything he could do? Are all of you so tunnel visioned on your hate for him? Is there anyway for him to dig out of this? Also why is he considered a backstabber? I'm legit asking.
It's absolutely possible. It's not even that hard.
Own his fuck-ups, strive to do better, make amends to those he's wronged, and he's most of the way there.

The problem comes in when you realize what step one is; owning your fuck-ups - because Dev can't do this. It's not that he won't - it's that his own circle of associates will not accept him backsliding in directions of self-improvement. Self-improvement would take him out of the proverbial crab bucket and they can't allow that. Even if that wasn't the case though, Dev's shown no capacity for self-reflection or introspection at all.

We all fuck up sometimes. Sometimes in small ways, sometimes in big ways. That's normal. It's how we react to those fuck ups that defines us as people. Dev refuses to countenance the consequences for his fuck-ups until they're unavoidable, and even then, will mitigate, delay, and do everything possible to bury his head in the sand and pretend everything's fine, deny reality when necessary, and only when the truth is completely unavoidable will he deign to admit it, and even then he will do so partially, to evade as much responsibility as possible.

I don't know anything about Dev's personal background, so I can only speculate, but I do know from experience that this often happens with people who had altered development, and had to either grow up too fast or too slowly due to parental issues. Ultimately that only explains partly why he's like that, because the rest is on him.

Dev has repeatedly betrayed people's trust, misused information told to him in confidence, and intentionally misrepresented people's arguments in an effort to make himself look to be in a stronger position. It's infuriating because very often the means by which he got to his preferred position involved the most duplicitous shit imaginable and often stemmed from him betraying someone for spurious reasons - someone who he wouldn't have needed to fuck over if he wasn't desperately running from his own culpability. There's a lesson in this - be honest in your dealings with others. If you have beef, let it be known, but be honest about it. It's always the best policy.

Dev had best watch his ass, because there will come a time when he is in a vulnerable spot and if the situation warrants it, his associates will cheerfully use his spine as a cutlery block. And he will absolutely fucking deserve that shit.
 
Thats the thing, he used to SOUND smart in his philosophy/culture war videos, but ever since 2022 and his first falls of morality
I may be remembering this wrong, but didn't Dev go on meds for depression in 2022? It could explain a bit of the direction he's taken, but it was definitely after banning uzalu from his server.
 
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